POLL: is circumcision a genital mutilation?

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: acidvoodoo
i wouldn't see it as mutilation, though the idea of putting my old child (one day) through that would be un-neccisary.

i'm uncircumsized, and i know how to wash. Though some things washing can't stop that circumsision can still exist :frown:

I don't understand your last sentence.

 

[ElFenix]

in maxim this month they had this debate and determined that circumcised was better because you're more likely to scare a girl uncircumcised and then you won't get a repeat performance

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Jellomancer

Originally posted by: acidvoodoo
i wouldn't see it as mutilation, though the idea of putting my old child (one day) through that would be un-neccisary.

i'm uncircumsized, and i know how to wash. Though some things washing can't stop that circumsision can still exist :frown:

I don't understand your last sentence.

cervical cancer ring a bell?

 

[bolido2000]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
in maxim this month they had this debate and determined that circumcised was better because you're more likely to scare a girl uncircumcised and then you won't get a repeat performance

Maybe in the US. In most parts of the world men are uncircumcised.
I don't think is mutiliation, although if my I do decide to circumcise my sons it would be right after they are born.
The probabylity of getting cancer in that area decreases considerably if you are circumcised too.

 

[TwilightZone77]

I am cut, but I am thinking I won't circumsize my kids if I have them. I just fail to see much of a purpose, and it does supposedly reduce sensations.

 

[tcsenter]

REPOST

RETOAST

REHASH

 

[yakko]

No. I am a ricer, I am all for better performance (yakko).

I take offense to this. I drive German not Japanese.

 

[SSP]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: Spagina
The cleanliness argument for uncircumsized to circumsized is a non-issue in my opinion, but people constantly bring it up. I'm uncircumcised, and it is kept very clean. When I have kids they will be uncircumsized as well. This isn't 300 BC in the Middle East, it is very easy to keep yourself clean and not worry about infection. If a male doesn't have the time to pull some skin back to clean, then he deserves to have his penis fall off, it's literally a 2 second act.

dirty ugly eggroll

You look for beauty in a mans penis? :Q

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Jellomancer

Originally posted by: acidvoodoo
i wouldn't see it as mutilation, though the idea of putting my old child (one day) through that would be un-neccisary.

i'm uncircumsized, and i know how to wash. Though some things washing can't stop that circumsision can still exist :frown:

I don't understand your last sentence.

cervical cancer ring a bell?

The study that found women who had sex with uncircumcised men were more likely to get cervical cancer only applied to women were were having unprotected sex with men infected with herpes.

 

[Ornery]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

You know what it is about organized religion that is so contemptible to me? It's the insidious way it's extreme rituals become socially acceptable. Everybody recoils in horror at the female genital mutilations performed elsewhere in the world, yet think NOTHING of male circumcision! What's the difference? Hah! The difference is the way you've been coerced into accepting it as normal by your parent's religion.

Well, I guess organized religion isn't right for you. For some people it is.

Ever hear of TOLERANCE?

I think that you need to grow up.

And after all, it's just a bit of skin.

TOLERANCE? You bet, Fred!

How tolerant are you of certain religions brain washing people in Iraq right now? We've got laws in this country to protect kids from the stupidity of their parents. Some of the rituals and brain washing imposed on our children in the name of religion ought to be regulated in some way, too. Tolerance? Tolerate this!

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

We were? What do tonsils do?

tonsils reduce infections. those that got tonsils removed in the 70's are more prone to infectious diseases.

how often do you hear of kids getting tonsils removed these days?? man when i was in elementary school, 3/4 of my classmates had tonsils removed. it was that common place. doctors would do it at the drop of a hat because it was easy money.

there are extreme cases of tonsilitis that require the removal of tonsils, but back then they were removing tonsils if the kid would come down with a cold.

Why are reports that say the removal of tonsils increase the risk of health problems considered trustworthy, but reports that say the circumcision of penises (penii?) reduce the risk of health problems considered hogwash?

 

[Ornery]

"Why are reports that say the removal of tonsils increase the risk of health problems considered trustworthy, but reports that say the circumcision of penises (penii?) reduce the risk of health problems considered hogwash?"

Did somebody say that? Anybody that says those reports are "hogwash" is WRONG!

It is also true that if you cut your breasts off, you'll very much reduce the risk of breast cancer. Great plan!

 

[Analog]

its healthier, not barbaric, but biblical!

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: Gaard
Why are reports that say the removal of tonsils increase the risk of health problems considered trustworthy, but reports that say the circumcision of penises (penii?) reduce the risk of health problems considered hogwash?

Perhaps because some of the reports are stretched beyond their original intent
From notfred:

The study that found women who had sex with uncircumcised men were more likely to get cervical cancer only applied to women were were having unprotected sex with men infected with herpes.

Yet, studies like this are exaggerated well beyond their original intent so the medical profession has an excuse to continue a useless operation that is a great money-maker.

As far as the uselessness of that little flap of skin, try to tell me that again after you look at this list.

 

[Jeff7]

The foreskin is also supposed to have a lot of nerves in it - remove those nerves, and that's a lot less pleasurable stimulation that a man will be able to receive. Now of course, the only real way to do a comparison is for an uncircumsized man to get circumsized, and uh..."try it out" then.

 

[Ornery]

Originally posted by: yellowfiero
its healthier, not barbaric, but biblical!

Main Entry: bar·bar·ic
Pronunciation: bär-'bar-ik
Function: adjective
Date: 15th century
1 a : of, relating to, or characteristic of barbarians b : possessing or characteristic of a cultural level more complex than primitive savagery but less sophisticated than advanced civilization

2 a : marked by a lack of restraint : WILD b : having a bizarre, primitive, or unsophisticated quality

Male and female circumcision is bizarre and primitive. There's bound to be many "health benefits" to female circumcision, too!

CORRESPONDENCE WITH WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION

• "...Even female circumcision has health benefits, since anyone whose clitoris and labia have been cut off will never suffer from vulvar agglutination, lichen sclerosus, or cancer of the labia."

 

[cjchaps]

If your girlfriend is afraid when you pull down your pants, it's probably time to get a new girlfriend that actually cares about something other than looks.

Originally posted by: ElFenix
in maxim this month they had this debate and determined that circumcised was better because you're more likely to scare a girl uncircumcised and then you won't get a repeat performance

 

[acidvoodoo]

Originally posted by: cjchaps
If your girlfriend is afraid when you pull down your pants, it's probably time to get a new girlfriend that actually cares about something other than looks.

Originally posted by: ElFenix
in maxim this month they had this debate and determined that circumcised was better because you're more likely to scare a girl uncircumcised and then you won't get a repeat performance

wait, american girls expect you to be circumsized? (brit talking here)

 

[PlatinumGold]

this thread is classic.

all the circumcised come out and want to prove that they are normal. face it people, you circumcised freaks are just that FREAKS.

if your jewish and circumcised ok, that's ok i guess, but the rest of you freaks your just FREAKS. Freaks i tell you FREAKS.

 

[Goosemaster]

My schlappidy Wappily has a jacket.

Wouldn't you be pised if someone stole your rare all-skin jacket?


Damn right.

 

[imported_Papi]

I've never heard of it in Afghanistan, but I've heard of it in Africa and surrounding countries.

I don't really have feelings on the subject. I'd have to live there in that country to understand it better. I'm not condoning it, I'm just saying that we see from the outside in as we all live in the U.S, Canada, or UK... In our countries that is not heard of. Maybe there is a reason for it. It does save on BC expenses which our countries have to pay for. It's also a useless act though considering its not the clitoris that makes a chick horny, its hormones.

I dunno... I don't really care because its not my problem. I'm more concerned with the homeless in my own city that I am with male/ female circumcision in a far away country where its probably benefiting 100's anyways. Just maybe they need to come up with a better procedure for doing so. <shrug>

 

[PlatinumGold]

I don't really have feelings on the subject. I'd have to live there in that country to understand it better. I'm not condoning it, I'm just saying that we see from the outside in as we all live in the U.S, Canada, or UK... In our countries that is not heard of. Maybe there is a reason for it. It does save on BC expenses which our countries have to pay for. It's also a useless act though considering its not the clitoris that makes a chick horny, its hormones.

I dunno... I don't really care because its not my problem. I'm more concerned with the homeless in my own city that I am with male/ female circumcision in a far away country where its probably benefiting 100's anyways. Just maybe they need to come up with a better procedure for doing so. <shrug

You sure your not Luvly posing as a new member?? your posts sure sound like her.

 

[virtuamike]

According to my porn archives, circumsized is the way to go

 

[Scope]

I'm not cut and I was born when it was in style but my doctor didn't believe in it. Foreskin is 70-80% of penile skin and it was put there for a purpose. The skin contains glands and produces Smegma. Smegma is the white substance that us uncut guys clean off in the shower. It moisturizes the glans and keeps it smooth, soft, and supple. Smegma has antibacterial, antiviral, and lubricating properties. However North American[mostly US] doctors do it automatically now, but a growing movement of parents, scientists and doctors are doing research to change the view of circumcision.
Mothers Against Circumcision
NoCirc
I agree that it is a heated topic. People who have had it done for the most part won't agree that it is wrong because they may some how feel abnormal. Also men who have had it done will have there sons circumsized becuase they want them to be the same as they are. Information is the best way to change the views of circumcision but prevailing views are going to be hard to overcome. These are personal views but I have provided facts to go along with them. Make you own Informed decision.

Scope!

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Mother nature gave us foreskin for a reason. Why would we cut it off? I have yet to have my foreskin infected.. maybe it's because I take showers...