POLL: is circumcision a genital mutilation?

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: Jellomancer
It's cutting off a piece of someone' s genitalia. It is definately mutilation. I was amazed when I moved to the US and realized that most men were circumcized. I had thought only Jews did this. I fail to see the purpose.

There is no purpose. Consider this article on the history of circumcision in the USA.

 

[waggy]

is circumcision mutilation? yes.

IF i have a boy i wont have it done. Yes there are reports that stokjakpimp stated but i have also read the opisite. That have them cut does not really reduce the health risk (if you keep it clean).

But i also read how they do it to baby's. Most dont use any painkillers. so they cut that off on a newborn and they have to suffer.

yes its more of a hassel keeping it clean but i dont see causing so much pain and risk fro no reason.

i remember reading of a boy that was circumcised but it went bad. They ended up cutting off most of his penis. They decided to cut everything off and turn him into a her. They gave him/her pills and dressed him/her as a female. Over time the child had major mental problems. he eventually commited suicide because he was now a female but was still male.
i think they had it on 20/20 or some such show.

After seeing that and finding out my wife was pregnant i did a little research on the practice and couldnt find anything to justify the risk or causing the pain.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Circumcision needs to end. It has no place in modern society. But when 70% of the male population is circumcised, you are going to have a hard time convincing them that it is useless mutilation.

 

[HamSupLo]

I am uncircumsized and I love it how those who are circumcised say it's to prevent infections, and it's easy to clean, blah blah blah.

 

[hdeck]

i don't consider it mutilation. you don't need the skin there, so why have it? and comparing male circumcision to female isn't really logical. the females that have it done do it to stop any pleasure during sex. last time i checked, the pleasure factor was still there without my foreskin.

 

[Stojakapimp]

well I got my info from that www.parenthood.com, not from personl experience. I figured they know what they are talking about. But they do say that the health issues won't be a problem if you have good penile hygiene and safe sexual practices

 

[Dacalo]

i am uncircumcized as well, and yes, it is very clean thank you.

 

[Peetoeng]

Originally posted by: hdeck
i don't consider it mutilation. you don't need the skin there, so why have it? and comparing male circumcision to female isn't really logical. the females that have it done do it to stop any pleasure during sex. last time i checked, the pleasure factor was still there without my foreskin.

Humbug! What makes you think that female sexual receptor (for lack of better terms) are found in clitoris only?

 

[friedpie]

What other body parts do we ceremoniously chop off for no legitamate medical reason?

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Circumcision needs to end. It has no place in modern society. But when 70% of the male population is circumcised, you are going to have a hard time convincing them that it is useless mutilation.

Jelloprancer what the hell are you talking about? It isn't mutilation one bit.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: hdeck
i don't consider it mutilation. you don't need the skin there, so why have it? and comparing male circumcision to female isn't really logical. the females that have it done do it to stop any pleasure during sex. last time i checked, the pleasure factor was still there without my foreskin.

You don't need earlobes either. Should babies have their earlobes cut off?

 

[vi edit]

Humbug! What makes you think that female sexual receptor (for lack of better terms) are found in clitoris only?

Not every single one, but damn near most of them are there. The clitoris is nothing other than one big bundle of nerves. This topic is useless anyway. This forum is populated by a bunch of insecure boys that would rather a woman go on some sort of hormonal treatment for birth control instead of getting a vasectomy....because getting snipped may make them less of a man

Most men are too anal about their d!cks to be logical about it.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Circumcision needs to end. It has no place in modern society. But when 70% of the male population is circumcised, you are going to have a hard time convincing them that it is useless mutilation.

Jelloprancer what the hell are you talking about? It isn't mutilation one bit.

Why is it not mutilation? Because it's acceptable in our society? To Ethiopians or whoever do female circumcision, what they do isn't mutilation, it's just ritual. Consider that please.

 

[FoBoT]

what's the difference between this and holes for earring and other piercings?

if a doctor/professional does it, it is fine

if somebody/tribal people are doing it without proper consideration for germs, then its bad, you could get infected and stuff could fall off or whatever

 

[UglyCasanova]

It looks better gone.

 

[Alphazero]

Originally posted by: dparker
No, and I'm glad I am.

 

[thawolfman]

Where is the: No, it is not barbaric. I am 'cut'. Option?



Edit - I suppose that's the same as the last option...whatever

 

[UglyCasanova]

Originally posted by: thawolfman
Where is the: No, it is not barbaric. I am 'cut'. Option?



Edit - I suppose that's the same as the last option...whatever

It is the ricer option I believe.

 

[PlatinumGold]

what's the difference between this and holes for earring and other piercings?

if a doctor/professional does it, it is fine

if somebody/tribal people are doing it without proper consideration for germs, then its bad, you could get infected and stuff could fall off or whatever

So should we pierce all little girls ears at birth??

What about tatoos, should we just tatoo social security numbers on all our children at birth??

once again, i'm not saying its a big deal one way or the other, but IF NOT why cut?? it would seem you would ONLY cut if there were a good reason to do so. think of all those people that got tonsils removed for minor irritations in the '70's. how many of those people regret it now??

the idea of vestigial appendages assumes that we know more than we do. in the case of tonsils apparently we were wrong.

 

[Spagina]

The cleanliness argument for uncircumsized to circumsized is a non-issue in my opinion, but people constantly bring it up. I'm uncircumcised, and it is kept very clean. When I have kids they will be uncircumsized as well. This isn't 300 BC in the Middle East, it is very easy to keep yourself clean and not worry about infection. If a male doesn't have the time to pull some skin back to clean, then he deserves to have his penis fall off, it's literally a 2 second act.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

what's the difference between this and holes for earring and other piercings?

if a doctor/professional does it, it is fine

if somebody/tribal people are doing it without proper consideration for germs, then its bad, you could get infected and stuff could fall off or whatever

So should we pierce all little girls ears at birth??

What about tatoos, should we just tatoo social security numbers on all our children at birth??

once again, i'm not saying its a big deal one way or the other, but IF NOT why cut?? it would seem you would ONLY cut if there were a good reason to do so. think of all those people that got tonsils removed for minor irritations in the '70's. how many of those people regret it now??

the idea of vestigial appendages assumes that we know more than we do. in the case of tonsils apparently we were wrong.

We were? What do tonsils do?

 

[PlatinumGold]

We were? What do tonsils do?

tonsils reduce infections. those that got tonsils removed in the 70's are more prone to infectious diseases.

how often do you hear of kids getting tonsils removed these days?? man when i was in elementary school, 3/4 of my classmates had tonsils removed. it was that common place. doctors would do it at the drop of a hat because it was easy money.

there are extreme cases of tonsilitis that require the removal of tonsils, but back then they were removing tonsils if the kid would come down with a cold.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: Jellomancer
We were? What do tonsils do?

they are an important part of your imune system

 

[acidvoodoo]

i wouldn't see it as mutilation, though the idea of putting my old child (one day) through that would be un-neccisary.

i'm uncircumsized, and i know how to wash. Though some things washing can't stop that circumsision can still exist :frown:

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: Spagina
The cleanliness argument for uncircumsized to circumsized is a non-issue in my opinion, but people constantly bring it up. I'm uncircumcised, and it is kept very clean. When I have kids they will be uncircumsized as well. This isn't 300 BC in the Middle East, it is very easy to keep yourself clean and not worry about infection. If a male doesn't have the time to pull some skin back to clean, then he deserves to have his penis fall off, it's literally a 2 second act.

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