POLL- Internet Explorer, are you still using it?

[Nothinman]

New software being better than old software is an everday occurence,

Not IME, plenty of software goes downhill with age as they cram more features in to try and justify charging for newer versions.

Yeah, wow those tabs sound truly amazing

They are, they've changed the way I browse the web.

Sure, I can alt-tab through open browser windows with IE, but tabs are totally Xtreme!!!!!

Tabs make it much simpler, especially for me since I don't have a task bar on any of my machines.

And, sure, Netscape Communicator 4.02 had built-in email support and we all skipped it it lieu of a full fledged email client.

The client in Communicator (and in the Mozilla Suite) is full fledged, hell it supports IMAP a lot better than OE or Outlook.

but this Firefox one is open-source and Gen-X and l33t.

The OSS part is definately nice, even if you don't know how to program.

 

[Googer]

i WOULD, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SUPPORT THE EFFORTS OF VIRUS WRITTERS.

 

[Googer]

IF you see a browser not listed that you would like to vote for please leave a message in this forum or send a private message.

 

[StevenYoo]

i use Firefox for general browsing

i use IE to do online banking and bill paying

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: GuybrushThreepwood
i use Firefox for general browsing

i use IE to do online banking and bill paying

Whoa Nellie! You are asking to get robbed by using IE for banking! Opera Is considerd to be one of the most secure browsers followed by Mozilla/Netscape. Didn't you hear about the goverment warnings concerning IE?
MSIE is very Insecure, only Mr Gates would use IE for his online banking. Since he has so much dough, he would not care if 7 grand went missing. Unless you are like him ditch IE for secure transactons.

USE IE for the one site out of a hundred that are specificly written for IE. Like PC Pitstop.com, Housecall.trendmicro.com, or 3COM Support Website.

 

[drag]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

New software being better than old software is an everday occurence,

Not IME, plenty of software goes downhill with age as they cram more features in to try and justify charging for newer versions.

Damn straight they do, sometimes. Netscape itself was a great example of what happens when you try to pile on new features. It took the mozilla project a long time to clean up that mess.

Sure, I can alt-tab through open browser windows with IE, but tabs are totally Xtreme!!!!!

Tabs make it much simpler, especially for me since I don't have a task bar on any of my machines.

I don't use a task bar either, but I do use alt-tab.

A bit difficult when you have a dozen windows open that aren't about browsing though. Plus it's easier to move one browser window from virtual desktop to virtual desktop then a half dozen browser windows.

Funny that. Tab browsing is definately better, it doesn't work out for most other programs that have tabs, such as gnome terminal or small text editors, but for browsing the web its something that is nice to have.

 

[Malak]

Nothinman, don't get into marketing.

 

[Fenixgoon]

firefox. buuuurn microsoft!

 

[zerocool84]

use firefox religiously. microsoft is WAY slow at updating IE with features that many other browers have had for years. ha it barely got a pop-up blocker. TAB BROWSING IS THE GREATEST INVENTION SINCE THE WHEEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Nothinman]

Nothinman, don't get into marketing.

Trust me, that'll never happen, luckily I'm smarter than that.

 

[Mr. Lennon]

Originally posted by: Salvatore

Originally posted by: royaldank

Originally posted by: Salvatore
I think I'm actually going to open to my mouth about building though. Better to try and not succeed rather than not trying at all. Wish me luck.

In a couple years, you'll see why suggesting others build isn't the greatest idea. Doing tech support and being blamed for a crappy computer every time they break it gets old. Unless someone really likes building and messing around with computers, building isn't the way to go. Suggest they get a Dell or something with a nice warranty and customer support. Makes your life easier.

Building is great for your own personal computer if you like that sort of thing. I've built every computer I've ever owned. Most people love to build systems for others when they first learn how and how much you can save. Most quit doing it soon after because it's a headache. Your parents will blame you anytime something goes wrong on the "custom" built machine. They will cuss Dell if you don't build it.

There's only one solution then: Nothing must go wrong. With all the knowledge I've picked up these past few years, and with the amazing AT forums handy, that goal isn't too improbable.

I do have all the money I would need for a computer stashed away in various personal bank accounts(My Aunt and I set them up), but my parents would never allow a second computer in the house for fear of the electricity costs. So, I'm not going to spend my own money on something everyone in the household will use, and therefore everybody else in the household will endanger.

And, in case my post is somehow misunderstood, I'm not arguing with you or trying to be hostile, no matter how it sounds.

And one more thing: Sorry, OP, for hijacking your thread.

Man are your parents really that cheap? Extra costs for electricty would be like what, a couple bucks, if that?

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: GuybrushThreepwood
i use Firefox for general browsing

i use IE to do online banking and bill paying

Security experts have recommended that computer users consider other browsers and some schools have told their students to use a non-Microsoft browser.

Quote was taken from Cnet and is featured today on ANANDTECH news. Click here to read the full article">http://news.zdnet.com/2100-100...html?tag=zdfd.newsfeed</a>

 

[BFG10K]

Of course I'm using IE. It works well and I have no need to attain a "coolness" factor by using alternative browsers.

Lots of virus attacks, spyware, malware, etc.

Err...nothing to do with the browser. If you like sticking your mouse cursor where it shouldn't go then don't be surprised if it catches a disease.

And dont forget Active X is a hackers delight.

So turn it off and/or run under a restricted account.

The main problem here is n00bs running under administrator privileges while looking for hax0rW4rz that pick up things and then blame IE. Of course, it's the browsers fault. :roll:

 

[drag]

Err...nothing to do with the browser. If you like sticking your mouse cursor where it shouldn't go then don't be surprised if it catches a disease.

Think about this very carefully...

Why should it matter what Link or popup I should click on? Why is it that I have to be carefull?

The only thing I should worry about is first purposely downloading and then purposely running programs, anything I have to worry about beyond that is probably caused by a flaw in the software design.

(note that I said "should", not that Firefox or Opera or whatever is perfect.)

 

[boran]

While we're on the subject of IE bashing etc:
http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer.html

Real world CSS bugs and wrong implementations of the standards you can test on your browser right now.
some of these bugs have been in IE since 4.0, tells a lot bout the priority gives to their browser, it's like a forgotten app, only when it gets really overboard (spyware, popups etc) ms is going to do something about it.

And tabbed browsing and session saving is undoubdtly the best thing ever to happen to browsing.

eg, when you watch yer daily webcomics (I do) i'd have to go to my bookmarks 13 times and click every bookmark once, or open 13 Ie windows and have em all load, now I open opera (win+space thanks to winkey) and click the comics folder on my quickbar and select "open all folder items" if you are a person that often visits many different sites on a daily basis (like all my hardware sites I visit daily) then having this feature saves you about a half an hour of clicking and waiting every day (and to be honest, 13 IE windows open on yer taskbar aint no sight)

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

And secondly, it is true that rebels are the driving force behind the FF campaign

So any software developers that don't work for MS are rebels?

No, all the IT and power-users like us who claim this and that about FF are the rebels. Browse AT for 10 minutes and you can't get by without someone ... well... need I go on ?

Naturally, mozilla.org should be pushing FF. Why would I call them rebels ?

 

[Frew]

I use AOL with top speed technogly.

 

[Tarrant64]

Originally posted by: Googer
I use mozilla products, except when doing windows update. Thats the only time IE is run on my machine.

Same here. IE for windows updates only.

 

[Nothinman]

No, all the IT and power-users like us who claim this and that about FF are the rebels. Browse AT for 10 minutes and you can't get by without someone ... well... need I go on ?

That's the case with any enthusiast, have you ever talked to someone who enjoys something without them telling you what brand/type they use and why?

Why would I call them rebels ?

Because they're going against the status quo, in this case IE.

 

[JonnyBlaze]

so everyone talks about ie catching virus's but no one knows where they are? i wanna see if i can catch one.

iv never had a virus before.

JB

 

[CSMR]

IE here. Don't feel the need to install other software. I use it in a tabbed way by having the taskbar on the left of the screen.

 

[Sunner]

I use Firefox on my Windows boxes and Konqueror on my Linux boxes.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Avant and MyIE2 are just IE. The OS doesn't matter, so why the Linux option? A MAC os part of a NIC. If you include Safari, why not throw in konqueror, Safari's origin?

 

[Haden]

I'm using Konqueror,
not in list so haven't voted yet

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Avant and MyIE2 are just IE. The OS doesn't matter, so why the Linux option? A MAC os part of a NIC. If you include Safari, why not throw in konqueror, Safari's origin?

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
A MAC os part of a NIC[/b]

Are you meaning to say a Media Access Control Address (MAC) is an OS (operating system) and is part of a Network Interface Card(NIC)? What does that sentance mean, Since a MAC is not an operating system(OS).

I have not used my linux os for a while. (SUSE 8.0). Thanks For reminding me I could not rememeber the name "Konqueror", It will be added in a moment. Also there are other browsers avalble for Linux besides Konqueror. So if you are using a version of Opera, Netscape, Firefox, or Mozilla under Linux vote for it under
I use linux to surf the web since you are obviously not an IE user.

Avant and MyIE2 are just IE. The OS doesn't matter

IE is avalable for APPLE OSX as well as Windows. Yes, IE is similar in DNA to Avant and MyIE2; But they are not the same and are considerd to be a differant browser, and if that is the case then why not excluded Mozilla and all Netscape derivitives? Aren't those all the same (mozilla/netscape)?