Poll: How much do you think it costs restaurants to make soda?

[LukFilm]

Um, no need to guess anymore, GoldenTiger already divulged the secret

 

[GoldenTiger]

<< Um, no need to guess anymore, GoldenTiger already divulged the secret >>



I'm too impatient for my own good .

 

[frizzlefry]

<<

<< Um, no need to guess anymore, GoldenTiger already divulged the secret >>



I'm too impatient for my own good . >>


LOL But we like to guess hehehe

Yeah, I knew this answer. Hehehe, I was helping this new guy at this fast food joint around the corner hook one of these up a couple years ago. I was like damn! Syrup... cool. You ever try drinking mountain dew syrup! Don't. YUCK!!! Anyways, they dude accidentally mixed up the tubes. He put the coke on the lemonade and the thing got all f-ed up. But, yeah it's sick how much money they make. I usually just get water at those places.

 

[Freejack2]

Heh, it's just as scary to thing that the cans are even more murderously expensive. A can of soda out a vending machine is usually $1. I'd wager the soda and can costs about 10 cents. Wish I could sell stuff at a 1000% markup.

 

[dc]

time to buy a soda machine and some syrup.

 

[zippy]

Guys, you just don't take a CO2 tank to carbonate water. It takes 4-5 atmospheres of pressure to carbonate water!

 

[Amused]

<< Ok, ok... people here aren't as dumb as I thought (except one person who voted 10-20 cents ). It costs between 2-3 cents for about 20-25 ounces of soda. How the machines work is there's a tank of syrup hooked up to the machine with water pipes in it. When you press the button to pour it, a small amount of the syrup mixes with the water, and then gets carbonated at the very end of the trip (at the nozzle where you can see it) by being swirled violently with air. It then pours out into your cup, awaiting consumption .

/me thought he was going to get to laugh at people thinking 20/40cents . >>



The people think 10-20 cents were adding the cost of the cup. I voted for 5-10 cents because it costs me right about 5 cents for large drinks. The cup adds about 5-10 more cents to the cost.

BTW, you missed a step. CO2 is added at the nozzle to the mix of syrup and water from a tank (usually in the back room, with the syrup bags or tanks) to carbinate it, not &quot;air.&quot;

CO2 tanks are fun. They're torpedo shaped and if you knock one over and break off the valve they shoot across the room like a bullet. I had one go through a wall :Q

 

[damocles]

Coke, per Lt is one of the cheapest liquids on earth.

I wont say how cheap Post/mix drinks are, but it certainly must be the highest markup on any product in the food industry

 

[brinstar117]

Freejack2, what you're paying for isn't the soda itself. It's the maintenance for the machine, the energy it takes to keep the cheapy (and cavity causing) liquid refrigerated, the wage of the person who stocks the vending machine, the cost of transporting the cans/bottles, and for the pure convienience of having the product available when you're thirsty. I drink water, juice, and milk... soda isn't a big thing in my house.

Yes we all know that soda is amazingly (even sickeningly) cheap to produce. But what I would like to know is why... PLEASE tell me why... do soda companies even have advertisements? Let's take Coca-Cola for example. They have plenty of television commercials and other ads running through popular media. But for what reason? Everyone already knows what it is, people aren't going to change their taste preference to different brands of soda just because the advertisment was convincing. I think that's why soda costs so much, they have to find something to spend that outrageous profit margin on. Commercials, CEO payraises, developing new sodas (yep, even beverage companies have R&amp;D departmens, what a wonderful time to be alive!)

Okay I'm done, I didn't think I could write so much about soda ::shudders::

 

[Amused]

<< Freejack2, what you're paying for isn't the soda itself. It's the maintenance for the machine, the energy it takes to keep the cheapy (and cavity causing) liquid refrigerated, the wage of the person who stocks the vending machine, the cost of transporting the cans/bottles, and for the pure convienience of having the product available when you're thirsty. I drink water, juice, and milk... soda isn't a big thing in my house.

Yes we all know that soda is amazingly (even sickeningly) cheap to produce. But what I would like to know is why... PLEASE tell me why... do soda companies even have advertisements? Let's take Coca-Cola for example. They have plenty of television commercials and other ads running through popular media. But for what reason? Everyone already knows what it is, people aren't going to change their taste preference to different brands of soda just because the advertisment was convincing. I think that's why soda costs so much, they have to find something to spend that outrageous profit margin on. Commercials, CEO payraises, developing new sodas (yep, even beverage companies have R&amp;D departmens, what a wonderful time to be alive!)

Okay I'm done, I didn't think I could write so much about soda ::shudders:: >>



Advertising for well known food and drink works to build desire. &quot;Mmmmm a coke DOES sound good right about now&quot; says the brain dead boob on the couch. It doesn't matter if he knows what coke is, or even if it's his favorite drink. It only matters that he may drink one MORE coke that day, because the idea was planted there by the ad.

Building desire increases sales. Keeping &quot;coke&quot; on the minds of the people makes them think &quot;coke&quot; when they're thirsty.

 

[Amused]

<< Guys, you just don't take a CO2 tank to carbonate water. It takes 4-5 atmospheres of pressure to carbonate water! >>



When you set up a soda fountain, here's what you get:

**The fountain with a filtered tap water connection.
**Bags or tanks of syrup (Most people use bags in boxes, stacked on a shelving system in the back room, with lines going to the fountain through the walls or above a drop ceiling.)
**CO2 tank.

That's it. The CO2 is added to the water in the lines, the carbinated water is added to the syrup at the nozzle and you have your soda.

 

[Amused]

Folks, soda prices at restaurants are high to offset the price points we set on food items.

McDonalds makes very little money on their burgers so they may advertise the price points as being so low. They make up for this with the profit margins on fries, soft drinks and other &quot;extras.&quot;

Were they to even out the pricing, drink prices would drop, but burger prices would rise. You'd still pay the same amount in the end, provided you aren't stupid enough to go to a restauant and order just a drink.

When ever I get take out, I never order their drinks.

 

[compuwiz1]

A busy soda fountain is the biggest profit center in the joint.

 

[frizzlefry]

<< Heh, it's just as scary to thing that the cans are even more murderously expensive. A can of soda out a vending machine is usually $1. I'd wager the soda and can costs about 10 cents. Wish I could sell stuff at a 1000% markup. >>


Nope. The actual can costs about 1.5cents and the soda, alot less than that. Think about how many cans the produce. When producing billions, your COG is alot less. Coke several years ago flew a guy from Israel over. He was a mechanical engineering guru. The story goes that they say him down at the table. Pushed a check in his direction. And told him that the check was his if he could find a way to manufacture the cans for less. The check was for $1 million. He thought about for a little bit and told him he couldn't do it.

Here's why. Old cans were a three part construction. IF you think back, remember that funny seam on the side of the can? Well it was made from 3 parts. Top, bottom, and side. But the new cans are made from stamping the bottom and side from one piece (no seam) and then the lid. But the guy couldnt' figure out a way to manufacture the cans for any less (stamping and dies).

Anyways, just a little info in case you people ever wondered.

 

[JohnnyKnoxville]

Does anybody know how much it costs Budweiser to make a can of beer?

 

[bacillus]

5-10 cents.

 

[Amused]

<< Heh, it's just as scary to thing that the cans are even more murderously expensive. A can of soda out a vending machine is usually $1. I'd wager the soda and can costs about 10 cents. Wish I could sell stuff at a 1000% markup. >>




<< Nope. The actual can costs about 1.5cents and the soda, alot less than that. Think about how many cans the produce. When producing billions, your COG is alot less. >>



Yet you don't add in the cost of overhead: transportation, payroll, insurance, taxes, advertising, profit for the company, profit for the machine folks, profit for the transport folks, profit for the distributer, profit for the reseller, etc. You're only adding up the cost of raw materials.

 

[bonkers325]

<< The cup costs more than the soda does, the actual soda is mere pennies at most. Most of the cups volume is consumed by the ice. Why do you think fast food joints sell a hamburger for a buck, there making a $1.20 on the large drink. Now apply this to the movie theater and you realize how much you are truly being ripped. >>



movie theater sodas area jip + they suck

 

[bonkers325]

<< Ok, ok... people here aren't as dumb as I thought (except one person who voted 10-20 cents ). It costs between 2-3 cents for about 20-25 ounces of soda. How the machines work is there's a tank of syrup hooked up to the machine with water pipes in it. When you press the button to pour it, a small amount of the syrup mixes with the water, and then gets carbonated at the very end of the trip (at the nozzle where you can see it) by being swirled violently with air. It then pours out into your cup, awaiting consumption .

/me thought he was going to get to laugh at people thinking 20/40cents . >>



no wonder popeyes gives unlimited refills and taco bell same too

 

[bonkers325]

soda ok
what about juices like hi-c

 

[bonkers325]

<< It doesn't cost restaurants to make soda...the soda is already made...they just hook up the 3 different items (syrup, water, c02) to the machine and turn it on.

But they are punks for making so much $$$ from it.

Homer >>



u wouldnt say that if u owned a bussiness like that

 

[bonkers325]

<< Even with NO ice in the cup at all, you can buy 5 gallons of syrup for about $10-13, which each make a HUGE amount of soda. Do the math out and you'll realize... restaurants make almost ALL of their money on soda. They sell their food near-cost (usually only 5-15 cents margin of profit), and then rip you off on the drinks.

Ronstang, that's exactly why I smuggle cans of soda in with me to the movies . Same with candy most of the time . Too bad popcorn can't realistically be snuck in lol ! I was in a Boston Market this afternoon, watching a lady argue with the manager over not being able to use a $2 off 10 coupon on a large dinner platter that was already being discounted. He said that they can't apply coupons to specials, so she started whining about how she wanted to swap the sodas for side dishes. Obviously, the manager said that store policy prohibits it, yet she stood there for LITERALLY 20 minutes arguing. I think the manager got VERY p.o.'d once she started inquiring about why the **** he was discriminating against coupon-users and those who prefer not to drink with their meals. He finally had her escorted out (after ruining my meal with her incessant whining ). I'm laughing about it now, but MAN was it annoying while I was trying to eat . >>



fast foods like mcd's and burger king yes
but what about restuarants like wok en roll

 

[bonkers325]

<<

<< Ok, ok... people here aren't as dumb as I thought (except one person who voted 10-20 cents ). It costs between 2-3 cents for about 20-25 ounces of soda. How the machines work is there's a tank of syrup hooked up to the machine with water pipes in it. When you press the button to pour it, a small amount of the syrup mixes with the water, and then gets carbonated at the very end of the trip (at the nozzle where you can see it) by being swirled violently with air. It then pours out into your cup, awaiting consumption .

/me thought he was going to get to laugh at people thinking 20/40cents . >>



The people think 10-20 cents were adding the cost of the cup. I voted for 5-10 cents because it costs me right about 5 cents for large drinks. The cup adds about 5-10 more cents to the cost.

BTW, you missed a step. CO2 is added at the nozzle to the mix of syrup and water from a tank (usually in the back room, with the syrup bags or tanks) to carbinate it, not &quot;air.&quot;

CO2 tanks are fun. They're torpedo shaped and if you knock one over and break off the valve they shoot across the room like a bullet. I had one go through a wall :Q >>



lol you had one go through a wall
i see u own a fast food joint

 

[bonkers325]

<< A busy soda fountain is the biggest profit center in the joint. >>



u are right on that steve

 

[Amused]

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<< Ok, ok... people here aren't as dumb as I thought (except one person who voted 10-20 cents ). It costs between 2-3 cents for about 20-25 ounces of soda. How the machines work is there's a tank of syrup hooked up to the machine with water pipes in it. When you press the button to pour it, a small amount of the syrup mixes with the water, and then gets carbonated at the very end of the trip (at the nozzle where you can see it) by being swirled violently with air. It then pours out into your cup, awaiting consumption .

/me thought he was going to get to laugh at people thinking 20/40cents . >>



The people think 10-20 cents were adding the cost of the cup. I voted for 5-10 cents because it costs me right about 5 cents for large drinks. The cup adds about 5-10 more cents to the cost.

BTW, you missed a step. CO2 is added at the nozzle to the mix of syrup and water from a tank (usually in the back room, with the syrup bags or tanks) to carbinate it, not &quot;air.&quot;

CO2 tanks are fun. They're torpedo shaped and if you knock one over and break off the valve they shoot across the room like a bullet. I had one go through a wall :Q >>



lol you had one go through a wall
i see u own a fast food joint >>



Yeah, I have a few franchised sandwich shops. BTW, it wasn't me that knocked over the CO2 tank, it was one of my employees. Scared the sh!t outta her :Q

She was ready to quit and I had to beg her to stay, and promise she didn't have to handle the CO2 tanks anymore. It was all I could do to not laugh my ass off at her