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Vette73

Lifer
Jul 5, 2000
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9
0
Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: Jzero
If people REALLY changed that much then marketing would have a hard time selling items as people would change all the time. But one of the most basic things you learn about marketing is PEOPLE FOR THE MOST PART DO NOT CHANGE. Why do you think most ads look the same year after year, because people do not change and neither does marketing. When you find something that works you stick with it.
Heck ads from the 50's look like ads from 2003.

Uhhh...if people cannot change, than marketing cannot possibly succeed. If drink Coke and have always drunk Coke, no amount of commercials with Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera will make me CHANGE to Pepsi. These companies would stop wasting billions on advertising.

he already shut up cuz 10 ppl undeniably showed him how stupid his arguments were


No because I know people will not change, so you will always resort to childish behavior like you are now. That just proves my point of standards and maturity, 2 things you have proven here you do not have.

And marketing is how it is employed to a new generation, and for the most part it has not changed.
Coke always used familiar soft images, like red signs and monograms, they now use the same with cuddly polars bears. Coke use to have movie stars promote, now they use athetes as they are in the news more.

Cig companies alwys use to have ads showing cool people smoking, they still have half naked good looking people in their ads, as they know most peopel can attach, good looking person smokes, i.e. I must smoke, which equals image. ala Joe Camel going after young people, etc...


 

Encryptic

Diamond Member
May 21, 2003
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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: Jzero
If people REALLY changed that much then marketing would have a hard time selling items as people would change all the time. But one of the most basic things you learn about marketing is PEOPLE FOR THE MOST PART DO NOT CHANGE. Why do you think most ads look the same year after year, because people do not change and neither does marketing. When you find something that works you stick with it.
Heck ads from the 50's look like ads from 2003.

Uhhh...if people cannot change, than marketing cannot possibly succeed. If drink Coke and have always drunk Coke, no amount of commercials with Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera will make me CHANGE to Pepsi. These companies would stop wasting billions on advertising.

he already shut up cuz 10 ppl undeniably showed him how stupid his arguments were


No because I know people will not change, so you will always resort to childish behavior like you are now. That just proves my point of standards and maturity, 2 things you have proven here you do not have.

And marketing is how it is employed to a new generation, and for the most part it has not changed.
Coke always used familiar soft images, like red signs and monograms, they now use the same with cuddly polars bears. Coke use to have movie stars promote, now they use athetes as they are in the news more.

Cig companies alwys use to have ads showing cool people smoking, they still have half naked good looking people in their ads, as they know most peopel can attach, good looking person smokes, i.e. I must smoke, which equals image. ala Joe Camel going after young people, etc...

rolleye.gif
Again, do you have ANY experience in the real world to back up your claims that people never change sexually or otherwise, or are you just spouting off crap that you pulled out of your ass? If people never changed, then we would still be living in the Stone Age.
 

Vette73

Lifer
Jul 5, 2000
21,503
9
0
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: Jzero
If people REALLY changed that much then marketing would have a hard time selling items as people would change all the time. But one of the most basic things you learn about marketing is PEOPLE FOR THE MOST PART DO NOT CHANGE. Why do you think most ads look the same year after year, because people do not change and neither does marketing. When you find something that works you stick with it.
Heck ads from the 50's look like ads from 2003.

Uhhh...if people cannot change, than marketing cannot possibly succeed. If drink Coke and have always drunk Coke, no amount of commercials with Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera will make me CHANGE to Pepsi. These companies would stop wasting billions on advertising.

he already shut up cuz 10 ppl undeniably showed him how stupid his arguments were


No because I know people will not change, so you will always resort to childish behavior like you are now. That just proves my point of standards and maturity, 2 things you have proven here you do not have.

And marketing is how it is employed to a new generation, and for the most part it has not changed.
Coke always used familiar soft images, like red signs and monograms, they now use the same with cuddly polars bears. Coke use to have movie stars promote, now they use athetes as they are in the news more.

Cig companies alwys use to have ads showing cool people smoking, they still have half naked good looking people in their ads, as they know most peopel can attach, good looking person smokes, i.e. I must smoke, which equals image. ala Joe Camel going after young people, etc...

rolleye.gif
Again, do you have ANY experience in the real world to back up your claims that people never change sexually or otherwise, or are you just spouting off crap that you pulled out of your ass? If people never changed, then we would still be living in the Stone Age.

I have linked to one Dr's paper on Change. Also how about over 80% of all people that go to jail for a felony will be right back there in less than 10 years. That is another little fact.

Now I have give a link and some standard data, yet all you keep doing is going... Unhhh...

So instead of acting like a little imature kid, back up what you are saying. So if that is all you got, grow up, been there and seen it.

I am done with this thread as all I get back from my statements and facts are "I don't believe it and I am just gonna cry and keep shouting the samething".

You and the other imature people will learn, just like PrinceofWands did after his divorce.

 

Encryptic

Diamond Member
May 21, 2003
8,885
0
0
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: Jzero
If people REALLY changed that much then marketing would have a hard time selling items as people would change all the time. But one of the most basic things you learn about marketing is PEOPLE FOR THE MOST PART DO NOT CHANGE. Why do you think most ads look the same year after year, because people do not change and neither does marketing. When you find something that works you stick with it.
Heck ads from the 50's look like ads from 2003.

Uhhh...if people cannot change, than marketing cannot possibly succeed. If drink Coke and have always drunk Coke, no amount of commercials with Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera will make me CHANGE to Pepsi. These companies would stop wasting billions on advertising.

he already shut up cuz 10 ppl undeniably showed him how stupid his arguments were


No because I know people will not change, so you will always resort to childish behavior like you are now. That just proves my point of standards and maturity, 2 things you have proven here you do not have.

And marketing is how it is employed to a new generation, and for the most part it has not changed.
Coke always used familiar soft images, like red signs and monograms, they now use the same with cuddly polars bears. Coke use to have movie stars promote, now they use athetes as they are in the news more.

Cig companies alwys use to have ads showing cool people smoking, they still have half naked good looking people in their ads, as they know most peopel can attach, good looking person smokes, i.e. I must smoke, which equals image. ala Joe Camel going after young people, etc...

rolleye.gif
Again, do you have ANY experience in the real world to back up your claims that people never change sexually or otherwise, or are you just spouting off crap that you pulled out of your ass? If people never changed, then we would still be living in the Stone Age.

I have linked to one Dr's paper on Change. Also how about over 80% of all people that go to jail for a felony will be right back there in less than 10 years. That is another little fact.

Now I have give a link and some standard data, yet all you keep doing is going... Unhhh...

So instead of acting like a little imature kid, back up what you are saying. So if that is all you got, grow up, been there and seen it.

I am done with this thread as all I get back from my statements and facts are "I don't believe it and I am just gonna cry and keep shouting the samething".

You and the other imature people will learn, just like PrinceofWands did after his divorce.

Oh wow. One paper means so much compared to something called "real life". Has one person in this thread agreed with you on anything you've said?
 

jjones

Lifer
Oct 9, 2001
15,424
2
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This poll needs another zero added to it. 20 + doesn't even begin to scratch the surface.
 

Red Dawn

Elite Member
Jun 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: luvly
"A Cheating Mofo and someone who was sexually active is not one in the same. Of course I wouldn't expect you to know the difference as you seemed to have lost your head (as far as your pictures go)"

Hahaha! You're so cute, Red Dawn, as usual. :p I didn't say they were the same. I was saying something separate.

And sexually active isn't the subject. The subject is having multiple partners, albeit at different times. So it wouldn't be a stretch to say that in all likelihood one like that would have cheated once at least. :p
Well I'm glad you think I'm cute. Too bad I'm taken (which keeps me Monagamous) I think it's you that are mistaken. I never got the impression that the original poster was talking about more than one partner at the time.If that were the case then I think 99% of us woud agree with you instead if just the Pimple Faced Sexually Frustrated that seems to dominate this forum.

BTW, do us all a favor and post a picture of your face.

 

UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
25,700
10,438
136
inverse bell curve...huh? Someone's lying! I myself am surprised at the low results...but then again I keep forgetting the majority on these forums are 18 or younger...
 

Red Dawn

Elite Member
Jun 4, 2001
57,529
3
0
Originally posted by: uncJIGGA
inverse bell curve...huh? Someone's lying! I myself am surprised at the low results...but then again I keep forgetting the majority on these forums are 18 or younger...
Obviously the young guys that are getting some aren't posting here!

 

alocurto

Platinum Member
Nov 4, 1999
2,174
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Originally posted by: Caminetto
Ha, I knew I wasn't the only virgin out there!
Any other over fifty pure guys here?

Holy sh!t! Are you saving yourself, or do you just really enjoy masturbating?
:confused:
 

Encryptic

Diamond Member
May 21, 2003
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Originally posted by: shady06
for all of you who choose 20+, how many STD's do u have to go along with that

rolleye.gif
Not everyone has an STD, chucko. Not to mention, proper precautions can cut down on the chance of Mr. Happy turning black and falling off.
 

jdogg

Senior member
Nov 23, 2001
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i think this is a pretty silly convo ... what does sexual promiscuity have to do with cheating?? ... granted, if a person is cheating, chances are he/she has screwed around more than your avg person. but there is no direct corellation. a person could have had sex with many partners and still remain completely faithful while in a relationship. Trying to come to any conclusions is bascially pure crap. If you really want to know if the person you are with will cheat, just ask them. One way or another they will tell you. All you have to do is pay attention to both their words and actions
 

Storm

Diamond Member
Nov 5, 1999
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Originally posted by: luvly
Hoober, thanks for the translation. I guess the translator is just plain bad.

People do change indeed, but I have to agree with Marlin1975 here. People who have a history are certainly not going to change overnight.

And if I'm to believe that anyone changed overnight, it would be the woman (which is less likely still if she was an expert slut). Why? Because when she finds a man she loves a lot and then has babies with, she starts to change her perspective. She changes it because she's been the one to go through the labour, bonding and everything. It's a natural, subconscious transition. However, a slutty guy change overnight? Hell no!

I must know my significant other's history. If he doesn't say it, I'll find out anyway. When I'm set to settle, I am set to. If I want a male slut, I know where to find them. Don't come pretending to be what you aren't 'cuz that's what I dislike the most.

What do you mean you'll find out anyway? Ummm stalker? :p Why not ask the guy up front?

Originally posted by: luvly
'The idea that people CANNOT change over a period of time is so fvcking stupid it does not deserve anyone's attention. Studies have not even been done on this b/c it is so fvckinging obvious that people CAN AND DO CHANGE."

People can and do change. But theory is different from practice. Sorry, but I like to be pragmatic. Realistically, it's rare that men with a history do change. Only a few do.

My theory is this: If a guy doesn't get it by age 26 or 27 (I mean transitioned changes), he'll never get it. I can take a guy 27 with a past history but not anything less than 4 years. But if he just did stuff like that 3 years ago, it's no-no. If he hasn't changed by that age, he won't ever change. I'm not about to stand by someone and keep hoping for him to change when he gets old and dies.

As if you would ever consider a guy like that? I dont believe he would fit into your strict criteria for the ideal male. Or have you come down a notch or two?

Originally posted by: luvly
"your theory sux. You cant teach old dogs new tricks does not apply to humans cuz well.........we are not fvcking dogs."

LOL! So maybe you men are dogs. Whoof, whoof! :p There's a reason I have no pets in the house yet have a dog house. Whoof, whoof! :p Really though, I frankly don't care 'cuz good men are rare. And when I do want a good man, I know where to find him and wouldn't have to deal with this questions. There's just no way I'll settle for less. Maybe you'll see this cute chick on the lez magazine 'cuz there was no way she would settle for less. ;)

There's one thing I can say even if he stopped cheating: He wouldn't be so responsible in other areas. (If he was honest about cheating, no problem.) Remember, sometimes lies is even what breaks up a relationship, not even the act of cheating itself. It hurts so bad when someone lies to you about an act he or she committed.

Dog house with no dog? It sounds as if you've been bitten by a doggie or two in your relationship lifetime? :p





 
Feb 10, 2000
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Originally posted by: shady06
for all of you who choose 20+, how many STD's do u have to go along with that


I did, and I have never had an STD. Lots of fun, though!


I don't think 20+ is anything special for someone my age (32), however.
 

Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: Jzero
If people REALLY changed that much then marketing would have a hard time selling items as people would change all the time. But one of the most basic things you learn about marketing is PEOPLE FOR THE MOST PART DO NOT CHANGE. Why do you think most ads look the same year after year, because people do not change and neither does marketing. When you find something that works you stick with it.
Heck ads from the 50's look like ads from 2003.

Uhhh...if people cannot change, than marketing cannot possibly succeed. If drink Coke and have always drunk Coke, no amount of commercials with Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera will make me CHANGE to Pepsi. These companies would stop wasting billions on advertising.

he already shut up cuz 10 ppl undeniably showed him how stupid his arguments were


No because I know people will not change, so you will always resort to childish behavior like you are now. That just proves my point of standards and maturity, 2 things you have proven here you do not have.

And marketing is how it is employed to a new generation, and for the most part it has not changed.
Coke always used familiar soft images, like red signs and monograms, they now use the same with cuddly polars bears. Coke use to have movie stars promote, now they use athetes as they are in the news more.

Cig companies alwys use to have ads showing cool people smoking, they still have half naked good looking people in their ads, as they know most peopel can attach, good looking person smokes, i.e. I must smoke, which equals image. ala Joe Camel going after young people, etc...

rolleye.gif
Again, do you have ANY experience in the real world to back up your claims that people never change sexually or otherwise, or are you just spouting off crap that you pulled out of your ass? If people never changed, then we would still be living in the Stone Age.

I have linked to one Dr's paper on Change. Also how about over 80% of all people that go to jail for a felony will be right back there in less than 10 years. That is another little fact.

Now I have give a link and some standard data, yet all you keep doing is going... Unhhh...

So instead of acting like a little imature kid, back up what you are saying. So if that is all you got, grow up, been there and seen it.

I am done with this thread as all I get back from my statements and facts are "I don't believe it and I am just gonna cry and keep shouting the samething".

You and the other imature people will learn, just like PrinceofWands did after his divorce.

Accually, the rate of reciprecation is pretty low. A small percentage are repeat offenders. Not sure on exact numbers, and I dont feel like pulling a number out of my ass like you. So there goes that arguement.