Poll: How do you feel about "The other side"?

How do you feel about "The other side"?

  • They are well intentioned, but harming the country.

  • They are well intentioned, may even be right.

  • They not well intentioned, but they aren't really hurting anything.

  • They are not well intentioned, they are harming the country.

  • Only progressive Democrats are trying to help this country, everyone is is destroying it.


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Cogman

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Sep 19, 2000
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I believe this has been posted, once upon a blue moon. I just wonder if things haven't become more political polar in the last couple of years (that, or I've just become more interested in politics as I've gotten older.)

So here is the question. "How do you feel about the other side." By that, I mean, what do think about people that have different opinions then you on what you consider important issues.
 
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Craig234

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May 1, 2006
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THe 'sides' aren't defined right - the ultra rich versus everyone else isn't 'Republican and Democrat' membership, for example. In the meantime, the closest answer is #5.

Which 'side' is the side who says the people should run our democracy, not the corporatocracy that can dominate the system, propagandize the people, buy the policies they want over the public interest?
 
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I think both sides are a bunch of self righteous, narcisistic assholes, who don't give a pile of dogshit for the average working, middle class family. Each side is more concerned about what they can do to stop the other's agenda without actually paying attention to the actual agenda at hand.
This is why I have given up all hope and sincerely doubt we will recover from the disaster we are in. Neither side is willing to compromise, because, ultimately, why do they have to? It will have zero effect on them and their lifestyle.
 

Cogman

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Sep 19, 2000
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THe 'sides' aren't defined right - the ultra rich versus everyone else isn't 'Republican and Democrat' membership, for example. In the meantime, the closest answer is #5.

Which 'side' is the side who says the people should run our democracy, not the corporatocracy that can dominate the system, propagandize the people, buy the policies they want over the public interest?

I specifically avoided the use of Republican and democrat, and in my post I specifically said that the other side is the people that disagree with you on major political points, whatever you deem to be those points.
 

Craig234

Lifer
May 1, 2006
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I specifically avoided the use of Republican and democrat, and in my post I specifically said that the other side is the people that disagree with you on major political points, whatever you deem to be those points.

I understand you did in the poll, but I'm commenting on how 'the sides' are defined by most people.

On the other hand you mentioned progressives in the most correct choice.
 

Cogman

Lifer
Sep 19, 2000
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I understand you did in the poll, but I'm commenting on how 'the sides' are defined by most people.

On the other hand you mentioned progressives in the most correct choice.
Honestly, I put that in just for you.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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Can people believe in centralized planning and have good intentions?

Let's think of it this way. A religious zealot could have good intentions by thinking he's doing gods work. So what if "god's work" is to kill everyone else? He's only honestly doing what he believes is right.

Now with that perspective, sure, I am confident that the vast majority of the population believes in their own self righteousness. Thus they have good intentions. Of course there would be a few exceptions but I'd consider those rare.

Whether a person believes in them self says nothing to the harm or crimes against humanity they may be committing.


For specifics you need to draw up and determine who the two sides are. Who "The other side" is could vary depending on the definition.

Classic left VS right. Or Libertarian VS Authoritarian which crosses both parties. How about those who believe in the government VS those who believe in the people?
 

dammitgibs

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I think it's all about the yin yang, having some balance, we need both sides, I just feel at the present course we are leaning way too far to the left side of the spectrum and need to get back in balance.

"We're dicks! (conservatives) We're reckless, arrogant, stupid dicks. And the Film Actors Guild (liberals) are pussies. And Kim Jong Il is an asshole. Pussies don't like dicks, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes: assholes that just want to shit on everything. Pussies may think they can deal with assholes their way. But the only thing that can fuck an asshole is a dick, with some balls. The problem with dicks is: they fuck too much or fuck when it isn't appropriate - and it takes a pussy to show them that. But sometimes, pussies can be so full of shit that they become assholes themselves..."

I think that pretty much sums it up.
 

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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lol, nice gibs... ;)

Don't agree with the leaning comment, but any such abundant use of dick, pussy and ass get a you +1

This poll is unfair for those of us who don't call either side home. Boo hiss.
 
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Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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I specifically avoided the use of Republican and democrat, and in my post I specifically said that the other side is the people that disagree with you on major political points, whatever you deem to be those points.

As you wish.

Having determined "good intentions" is the only plausible answer to the first part, "The other side" is doing harm to this nation. I have voted as such.
 

StageLeft

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Sep 29, 2000
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IMO the ONLY good response on your poll--the only one a person ought to answer is the one I did They are well intentioned, may even be right.. The rest shows frankly a hubris without basis; an arrogance formed on ignorance. The other side cannot always be wrong on everything and sometimes they are right when your own side isn't. Beyond that it doesn't really matter how the sides are defined. And I'm not a nihilist but let's be real.

EDIT: I caveat to be sure nobody thinks I'm talking about either party's leadership. I am not convinced at all they are interested in the best thing. They are interested in winning reelection first and foremost. That is their end-game, everything else is a means to an end. When i say well intentioned I mean the average joe.
 
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Moonbeam

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Nov 24, 1999
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I see conservatives as folk who died as children and became their parents. They seek to step into those power shoes.

I see liberals as folk who rebelled against parental authority. They seek to destroy the existing power structure.

Conservatives side with victimizers and liberals with victims.

Conservatives fancy themselves as pragmatic, they made a bargain with the devil.

Liberals are wild eyed dreamers who think they can make things change.

Conservatives are massive egotists because they identify with all the good of the status quo, and because they inherit that good.

Liberals are crusaders because they bring a better world.

The Gnostic, the mystic, the Knower, the FOOL to the normal world, who really sees, collapses duality via the integration of opposites at a higher level.

There is one truth and it covers all of us. There are only those few who know and the rest that don't, folk who know there is no 'other side' and those who don't.

We are all the same.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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Skoorb, if the other side is seen as trashing the Bill of Rights and committing crimes against humanity? You really think it takes hubris to oppose that and to consider it harmful?
 

StageLeft

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Skoorb, if the other side is seen as trashing the Bill of Rights and committing crimes against humanity? You really think it takes hubris to oppose that and to consider it harmful?
You are trying to paint this as black and white when it rarely is. Both sides have made arguments--and good ones--for the other trashing the constitution.
 

Kirby

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Apr 10, 2006
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I believe this has been posted, once upon a blue moon. I just wonder if things haven't become more political polar in the last couple of years (that, or I've just become more interested in politics as I've gotten older.)

So here is the question. "How do you feel about the other side." By that, I mean, what do think about people that have different opinions then you on what you consider important issues.

Important issues are usually just demagogues that don't matter anyway.

Kang: Abortions for all
(Crowd boos)
Kang: Very well, no abortions for anyone.
(Crowd boos)
Kang: Hmm... Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others!
(Crowd cheers and waves miniature flags)
 

Udgnim

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Apr 16, 2008
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roughly in the middle, think both sides only care about pushing their own agenda and rarely ever hold themselves accountable for mistakes
 

dammitgibs

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Jan 31, 2009
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When I say I think we're leaning too far to the left in terms of balance I mean that in a very broad sense on fiscal issues and not necessarily social issues. I mean that as a nation the mindset of Americans that we look to the government to solve our problems and provide for us cradle to the grave and need government oversight for every aspect of our lives is too far to the left. For example, politicians of the left and right are all about creating and saving jobs, we need to get away from this mindset that it is the responsibility of the government to create jobs, that's the responsibility of the people. I certainly believe that there is the opposite side where we don't have enough government oversight and the government does not provide us with enough services, but I am not afraid of us ever seeing the day that comes. And this is both republicans and democrats.

I believe the liberal and conservative mindset of the people is a well intentioned one, but as far as politicians go I think it's pointless to ask whether or not they are well intentioned. You could make the argument that Darth Vader and Emperor Palpatine were well intentioned, just trying to maintain order in the universe.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Politicians primary concern is the next Election. It is their Job at stake after all and who the hell wants to lose their Job in this Economy?
 

cubby1223

Lifer
May 24, 2004
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Where is the flip of the last poll option - Only "progressive" Democrats are harming the country, everyone else is pretty much fine by me.