[Poll] How did life start on earth.

[DVK916]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
God invented Abiogenesis and initiated it

impossible, since god is alive, god can't initiate abiogenesis, because it wouldn't be abiogenesis any more.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: Garth

Originally posted by: DVK916

No, that isn't what abiogenesis means. Abiogenesis refers to the chemical origins of life. Not some god creating life. Even the catholic church has stated abiogensis is not compatible with the teachings of the bible.

I'm sorry, but the Catholic Church does not have a copyright on God.

You've posted a false dilemma. It's that simple. You can either acknowledge it and learn something, or you can persist in your denial of it, which will only increase the general perception of you as an annoying, over-zealous atheist that is equally as religious as the same religious individuals he constantly maligns.

You clearly don't understand what abiogensis is. Sky fairies i.e god is alive if it is real, therefore god creating life CAN NOT be abiogensis.

FYI: you just proved Garth's argument for him.

 

[DVK916]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: Garth

Originally posted by: DVK916

No, that isn't what abiogenesis means. Abiogenesis refers to the chemical origins of life. Not some god creating life. Even the catholic church has stated abiogensis is not compatible with the teachings of the bible.

I'm sorry, but the Catholic Church does not have a copyright on God.

You've posted a false dilemma. It's that simple. You can either acknowledge it and learn something, or you can persist in your denial of it, which will only increase the general perception of you as an annoying, over-zealous atheist that is equally as religious as the same religious individuals he constantly maligns.

You clearly don't understand what abiogensis is. Sky fairies i.e god is alive if it is real, therefore god creating life CAN NOT be abiogensis.

FYI: you just proved Garth's argument for him.

Not really, he showed his ignorance towards the subject.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: Garth

Originally posted by: DVK916

No, that isn't what abiogenesis means. Abiogenesis refers to the chemical origins of life. Not some god creating life. Even the catholic church has stated abiogensis is not compatible with the teachings of the bible.

I'm sorry, but the Catholic Church does not have a copyright on God.

You've posted a false dilemma. It's that simple. You can either acknowledge it and learn something, or you can persist in your denial of it, which will only increase the general perception of you as an annoying, over-zealous atheist that is equally as religious as the same religious individuals he constantly maligns.

You clearly don't understand what abiogensis is. Sky fairies i.e god is alive if it is real, therefore god creating life CAN NOT be abiogensis.

Believe me, I do, and you are wrong. There are different modes of aboigenesis: natural and supernatural. Both describe life becoming non-life, but the difference is the means by which that transmission is achieved.

Of course, you're too busy poisoning wells and such to be concerned with such details...

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: FoBoT
God invented Abiogenesis and initiated it

impossible, since god is alive, god can't initiate abiogenesis, because it wouldn't be abiogenesis any more.

If God can never die, then how can He be alive?

 

[lobbyone]

My head hurts 🙁

 

[DVK916]

Originally posted by: Garth

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: Garth

Originally posted by: DVK916

No, that isn't what abiogenesis means. Abiogenesis refers to the chemical origins of life. Not some god creating life. Even the catholic church has stated abiogensis is not compatible with the teachings of the bible.

I'm sorry, but the Catholic Church does not have a copyright on God.

You've posted a false dilemma. It's that simple. You can either acknowledge it and learn something, or you can persist in your denial of it, which will only increase the general perception of you as an annoying, over-zealous atheist that is equally as religious as the same religious individuals he constantly maligns.

You clearly don't understand what abiogensis is. Sky fairies i.e god is alive if it is real, therefore god creating life CAN NOT be abiogensis.

Believe me, I do, and you are wrong. There are different modes of aboigenesis: natural and supernatural. Both describe life becoming non-life, but the difference is the means by which that transmission is achieved.

Of course, you're too busy poisoning wells and such to be concerned with such details...

No, there aren't. What you are saying is wrong. GOD IS ALIVE if he is real, which he isn't. A living being creating life CANNOT be abiogenesis.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: FoBoT
God invented Abiogenesis and initiated it

impossible, since god is alive, god can't initiate abiogenesis, because it wouldn't be abiogenesis any more.

God is alive? Since when? Does god reproduce? Does he ingest and metabolize? Does he maintain boundaries?

Oh wait, I forgot... I'm the ignorant one... so silly of me...

 

[DVK916]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: FoBoT
God invented Abiogenesis and initiated it

impossible, since god is alive, god can't initiate abiogenesis, because it wouldn't be abiogenesis any more.

If God can never die, then how can He be alive?

If god isn't a living thing, then how can he have thought, and mind.

 

[torpid]

other secular => trolls is my answer

 

[DVK916]

god isn't real so the whole point is moot too.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: torpid
other secular => trolls is my answer

FSM?

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: FoBoT
God invented Abiogenesis and initiated it

impossible, since god is alive, god can't initiate abiogenesis, because it wouldn't be abiogenesis any more.

If God can never die, then how can He be alive?

If god isn't a living thing, then how can he have thought, and mind.

I have no idea. But thought and mind is not a requirement for life. There are almost countless species of living things that almost certainly have neither thought nor mind. Consider a redwood. Or bacteria. What about a virus? Are those not living things? Or are you saying that they have thought and mind?

 

[DVK916]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: FoBoT
God invented Abiogenesis and initiated it

impossible, since god is alive, god can't initiate abiogenesis, because it wouldn't be abiogenesis any more.

If God can never die, then how can He be alive?

If god isn't a living thing, then how can he have thought, and mind.

I have no idea. But thought and mind is not a requirement for life. There are almost countless species of living things that almost certainly have neither thought nor mind. Consider a redwood. Or bacteria. What about a virus? Are those not living things?

ofcourse they are. But I am saying things with thought and mind are alive.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: DVK916
ofcourse they are. But I am saying things with thought and mind are alive.

Says who? Committees and corporations aren't "alive" in the common sense of the word, but they seem to have thought and mind through the collective of the individuals involved. What if "God" is something similar?

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Originally posted by: DVK916

ofcourse they are. But I am saying things with thought and mind are alive.

What you're doing is making baseless claims. You can't expect to be taken seriously just throwing around claims like that as foundations to your arguments.

 

[us3rnotfound]

Why don't you leave ?

 

[Journer]

option for 'know one knows'
?

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: FoBoT
God invented Abiogenesis and initiated it

impossible, since god is alive, god can't initiate abiogenesis, because it wouldn't be abiogenesis any more.

If God can never die, then how can He be alive?

If god isn't a living thing, then how can he have thought, and mind.

I have no idea. But thought and mind is not a requirement for life. There are almost countless species of living things that almost certainly have neither thought nor mind. Consider a redwood. Or bacteria. What about a virus? Are those not living things?

ofcourse they are. But I am saying things with thought and mind are alive.

actually viruses are not alive and your stipulations are completely arbitrary. Someone could just make a clailm like, things that are human are the only things alive. Thus, eevrything else is not alive. The idea that thought and mind are a requirement for "life" is baseless

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Vic
Even if we do prove that organic molecules could spontaneously organize themselves into life, how could we ever know that that is how life on earth started? Maybe that process occured first on another planet and then the spores migrated to earth for life to evolve? What then?

Hypothetically, what if we built a time machine, and watched it happen?

More seriously, say we found a way to simulate evolution in reverse and replicate the moment when abiogenesis happened? Say on some ideal future quantum supercomputer we could do it?

Abiogenesis is a scientifically testable hypothesis, even if we are currently incapable of testing it. It makes concrete claims which in of themselves are testable, even if we don't currently have an experiment devised to test it.

Well... I eagerly await that time machine. Until then, we're just guessing. They might be educated guesses, but guesses nonetheless.

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Vic
Even if we do prove that organic molecules could spontaneously organize themselves into life, how could we ever know that that is how life on earth started? Maybe that process occured first on another planet and then the spores migrated to earth for life to evolve? What then?

Hypothetically, what if we built a time machine, and watched it happen?

More seriously, say we found a way to simulate evolution in reverse and replicate the moment when abiogenesis happened? Say on some ideal future quantum supercomputer we could do it?

Abiogenesis is a scientifically testable hypothesis, even if we are currently incapable of testing it. It makes concrete claims which in of themselves are testable, even if we don't currently have an experiment devised to test it.

Well... I eagerly await that time machine. Until then, we're just guessing. They might be educated guesses, but guesses nonetheless.

It's possible, but space is extremely inhospitable to life as we know it so the chances of our version of life having originated in space is slim. And I suppose it would answer how life on Earth started (which is what the OP is asking) but it wouldn't answer how life, as we know it, started, which I think is the more interesting questions anyways.