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[Poll] How did life start on earth.

First, learn to spell it right. It's Abiogenesis.

I think the question is moot and meaningless. If you must mix your science with religion, then do so privately.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
First, learn to spell it right. It's Abiogenesis.

I think the question is moot and meaningless. If you must mix your science with religion, then do so privately.

this isn't just a religous issue. I have no religion.
 
Originally posted by: DVK916
Originally posted by: Vic
First, learn to spell it right. It's Abiogenesis.

I think the question is moot and meaningless. If you must mix your science with religion, then do so privately.

this isn't just a religous issue. I have no religion.

Then why are so concerned that others believe like you on an issue that can NEVER be scientifically proven? And why do you hold such a belief so strongly? If that isn't religion, I don't know what is. Looks like someone's got issues...
 
Originally posted by: DVK916
I say abiogenesis.

You're obviously confused. Even if one day some god decided to swallow a huge mouthful of dirt and magically crap out "life," that event would still fit the definition of "abiogenesis."

In other words "abiogenesis" does not necessarily have to happen without divine intervention. How could you tell the difference between a process occurring with or without such influence?
 
NASA recently reported that the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter's cameras have sent back indisputable proof that human life orginated on another world: Text
 
Originally posted by: Garth
Originally posted by: DVK916
I say abiogenesis.

You're obviously confused. Even if one day some god decided to swallow a huge mouthful of dirt and magically crap out "life," that event would still fit the definition of "abiogenesis."

In other words "abiogenesis" does not necessarily have to happen without divine intervention. How could you tell the difference between a process occurring with or without such influence?

No, that isn't what abiogenesis means. Abiogenesis refers to the chemical origins of life. Not some god creating life. Even the catholic church has stated abiogensis is not compatible with the teachings of the bible.
 
Even if we do prove that organic molecules could spontaneously organize themselves into life, how could we ever know that that is how life on earth started? Maybe that process occured first on another planet and then the spores migrated to earth for life to evolve? What then?
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Even if we do prove that organic molecules could spontaneously organize themselves into life, how could we ever know that that is how life on earth started? Maybe that process occured first on another planet and then the spores migrated to earth for life to evolve? What then?

That would be extraterrestrial origins, which is also possible. Unlike the explanation that some sky fairy created life.
 
Originally posted by: DVK916

No, that isn't what abiogenesis means. Abiogenesis refers to the chemical origins of life. Not some god creating life. Even the catholic church has stated abiogensis is not compatible with the teachings of the bible.
I'm sorry, but the Catholic Church does not have a copyright on God.

You've posted a false dilemma. It's that simple. You can either acknowledge it and learn something, or you can persist in your denial of it, which will only increase the general perception of you as an annoying, over-zealous atheist that is equally as religious as the same religious individuals he constantly maligns.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Even if we do prove that organic molecules could spontaneously organize themselves into life, how could we ever know that that is how life on earth started? Maybe that process occured first on another planet and then the spores migrated to earth for life to evolve? What then?

Hypothetically, what if we built a time machine, and watched it happen?

More seriously, say we found a way to simulate evolution in reverse and replicate the moment when abiogenesis happened? Say on some ideal future quantum supercomputer we could do it?

Abiogenesis is a scientifically testable hypothesis, even if we are currently incapable of testing it. It makes concrete claims which in of themselves are testable, even if we don't currently have an experiment devised to test it.
 
Originally posted by: DVK916
Originally posted by: Vic
Even if we do prove that organic molecules could spontaneously organize themselves into life, how could we ever know that that is how life on earth started? Maybe that process occured first on another planet and then the spores migrated to earth for life to evolve? What then?

That would be extraterrestrial origins, which is also possible. Unlike the explanation that some sky fairy created life.

Isn't the sky fairy an extraterrestrial? 😕

BTW, it's called Panspermia. Have you considered actually educating yourself on these subjects before you pretend to argue with knowledge on the internet? 😛
 
Originally posted by: Garth
Originally posted by: DVK916

No, that isn't what abiogenesis means. Abiogenesis refers to the chemical origins of life. Not some god creating life. Even the catholic church has stated abiogensis is not compatible with the teachings of the bible.
I'm sorry, but the Catholic Church does not have a copyright on God.

You've posted a false dilemma. It's that simple. You can either acknowledge it and learn something, or you can persist in your denial of it, which will only increase the general perception of you as an annoying, over-zealous atheist that is equally as religious as the same religious individuals he constantly maligns.

You clearly don't understand what abiogensis is. Sky fairies i.e god is alive if it is real, therefore god creating life CAN NOT be abiogensis.
 
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