Poll: Florida requires uploading government ID before accessing porn sites.

[Zorba]

In America essentially any level of violence is entirely acceptable but little Mikey seeing a set of knockers is a bridge too far.

Yeah, because there are only titties and no violence in online porn.

 

[K1052]

Yeah, because there are only titties and no violence in online porn.

In that equation one is considered a problem and one is largely not.

The country has long had this unequal perception well predating the emergence of internet porn.

 

[VRAMdemon]

In America essentially any level of violence is entirely acceptable but little Mikey seeing a set of knockers is a bridge too far.

Gun registration: Dangerous violation of constitutional rights!

Porn registration: We need intrusive access to your private life!

A lot of parents either don't care or don’t know how to parent in modern times. If your kids have gotten into porn, part of the blame on you regardless of your political views. Legislation sponsord by Nord VPN. A whole bunch of young horny nerds are about to invest in VPNs. I regret not getting into the VPN business.

These "Christians" running these "governments" deciding what we're allowed or not allowed to look at on the web. The Invisible sky daddy is watching you pervs! They test the concept with porn and then move on to other sites they deem inappropriate to their wishes. Get ready Elon, Reddit etc. They’re coming for your online porn next!

 

[VRAMdemon]

Yeah, because there are only titties and no violence in online porn.

So ... Where do you draw the line on access to "violence" online when it comes to the first amendment?

 

[HomerJS]

If a Democratic state said no guns in homes with kids every single Republican would be crying big government overreach.

What is more dangerous to kids, a gun in the house or seeing a pair of boobs?

Kids shot up in school doesn’t raise an eyebrow with Republicans but let a CEO get shot on the street and the crocodile tears start flowing.

Phony concern on display. It’s more about control with these people.

 

[Fenixgoon]

If a Democratic state said no guns in homes with kids every single Republican would be crying big government overreach.

What is more dangerous to kids, a gun in the house or seeing a pair of boobs?

Kids shot up in school doesn’t raise an eyebrow with Republicans but let a CEO get shot on the street and the crocodile tears start flowing.

Phony concern on display

and we know statistically that people in households with guns are less safe than those without.

 

[VRAMdemon]

And when every one of their friends carries around a phone with access to porn?

I agree the current batch of laws are bullshit and they aren't effective because they are done at the state level. That doesn't mean premise is bad or wrong. We use age gating for all kinds of things in the real world, it makes no sense that the same doesn't apply online.

Really ... So what, if my kid viewed porn on some other kids' phone because some other kid's parents are too lazy to parent, so be it. And if this kid who views porn becomes "corrupted" or whatever, there are some other emotional and phycological problems already there to begin with. Again parents to lazy or busy to police and observe and treat their kids. The buck really starts with them. You are free to disagree

These "blocking access to things online laws" are/could be part of a wider moral battle taking place in the US. this may not really be about children or even pornography at all. Rather, it's a way to codify specific moral beliefs about sexuality and gender that may not align with the "morals" of a certian segment of Americans (running these states). There's never been a clear definition of pornography. It's just a convenient, pejorative label that politicians and religious leaders have applied to material they don't like. We're in the midst of huge backlash in the US around sex and sexuality. Censoring children's books for mere mentions of issues related to race, gender and sexuality, often under calls to protect kids from "smut".

Look, protecting children seems like something we can all agree upon. These mandates may inadvertently drive young people towards more dangerous online environments, both on the clear and dark web. Age verification imposes a burden on adults ability to access content, because it means that all users have to verify their ages, not just children. It could deal a serious blow to online anonymity, robbing people of their right to explore ideas and speak freely. It could mean people will be much more hesitant to engage with content that is legal to access.

 

[outriding]

Funny that Florida still allows cigarette vending machines

I think this law is stupid

I think a better option is have make the ISP to have an option to block it at a DNS level and the parents would have to change it at their end. Kind of like how opendns has that ability

If the kids have the smarts to get around it with a vpn they can get around it with dns

Note for personal use the opendns service is free

 

[Greenman]

If a Democratic state said no guns in homes with kids every single Republican would be crying big government overreach.

What is more dangerous to kids, a gun in the house or seeing a pair of boobs?

Kids shot up in school doesn’t raise an eyebrow with Republicans but let a CEO get shot on the street and the crocodile tears start flowing.

Phony concern on display. It’s more about control with these people.

I wouldn't have any problem at all with the state requiring a trigger lock and a gun safe to own a firearm. Along with that there should be a required gun safety course.

 

[Zorba]

So ... Where do you draw the line on access to "violence" online when it comes to the first amendment?

I wasn't the one that brought up violence. However, we have age gated violent movies forever.

 

[K1052]

I wasn't the one that brought up violence. However, we have age gated violent movies forever.

We did not age restrict films until 1968. Even then it was a result of the Hays Codes being deemed out of date and not due to any legislation by government. The whole thing is an industry imposed solution chiefly to keep the government out of the film censorship business.

 

[DaaQ]

Doesn't the WTF in your question imply that something about my post pissed you off and that your real intention was to express that rather than any desire for clarification? If you are really interested let me know. The general idea is that in my opinion this debate can only happen among the mentally disturbed, that in a mentally healthy world pornography would not exist. and that debates about whether it should be censored or not would never happen. How do you react to being told you are sick, naturally in my opinion? You can thank me later now that you know and are going to do something about it. If you want to discuss the issue just ask. I won't hold my breath.

No WTF in my question does not imply that anything has pissed me off. You will know that.
I really don't quite understand your whole opinion that this debate can ONLY happen with mentally disturbed people. Where does that come from?

A mentally healthy world would have absolutely no inclination towards sex? Hence pornography would not exist? What is this? Then debate about censorship would never happen? That is where the WTF comes from.

I don't react to being told I am sick by someone who doesn't know me nor is my Dr. Pornography in the simplest terms, NOT the most absurd, and abusive ways, does not make one sick. You are saying ALL pornography makes ALL people sick.
Explain what you are trying to say. With baited breath.

So ... Where do you draw the line on access to "violence" online when it comes to the first amendment?

Only reason I quoted this post, is for one reason. Has nothing to do with porn.

Let me explain, I do not like to watch people be hurt, especially by others. Their own stupidity is something different. I used to skateboard, I cracked my sack on a handrail attempt. I pulled off a 180 down the stairs in front of Cobo Hall in Detroit, 1st I know of. I digress.

My wife likes to watch morbid crap. Showed me this video of some supposed Mexican Cartel prisoner that was chained to the ground by his neck. Obviously agonizing in pain and then some.
IDK if it was Mexico or Afgan or Iraq or any of the other places we have shoved our noses in. Point is it was about 10 years ago.

So dud is chained to a stake by a collar around his neck, hands and feet restrained. Obviously a desert type area.

So the video is these guys come kick and beat him, and then proceed to cut off his legs at the knees. Then one of them beats him in the face with his own fucking leg.
This is something I will never forget. I also worked in a meat dept. from 15 to 18, from 18 to 21/3ish I was a butcher, so I could realize how this could be done with filet or boning knives. It disturbed me badly.

More so than any of the above censorship from that quote could ever.

 

[Moonbeam]

No WTF in my question does not imply that anything has pissed me off. You will know that.
I really don't quite understand your whole opinion that this debate can ONLY happen with mentally disturbed people. Where does that come from?

A mentally healthy world would have absolutely no inclination towards sex? Hence pornography would not exist? What is this? Then debate about censorship would never happen? That is where the WTF comes from.

I don't react to being told I am sick by someone who doesn't know me nor is my Dr. Pornography in the simplest terms, NOT the most absurd, and abusive ways, does not make one sick. You are saying ALL pornography makes ALL people sick.
Explain what you are trying to say. With baited breath.

For somebody who doesn’t react to someone else’s opinion, I would ask you to reconsider. I’d say you have reacted pretty strongly and in error to boot. Of course that is my opinion. I know you because I know me. We are all the same. You simply have not realized this truth because of ego. You fancy yourself as being unique. Only the particulars of how you came to be a self hater are particular to you. The disease is the same.

Simply put, you do not know what love is, more properly, that you have forgotten. You are divided against yourself and unaware of that fact, understand very little. You like the rest of us are lost.

Being mentally healthy does not imply no sex. There is little point even talking about that. You don’t know what sex is, only sex as it is for people who are divided against themselves, people with all the emotional needs of those who have lost themselves.

In this way we live in a world of fools who suffer from psychological illness. Pornography is there as a substitute for those who who are cut off from feeling real love, love for one’s self. That brutality you mentioned in the part of your post I didn’t quote exists for the same reason. Self hate is the root not only of an incapacity to feel love, it is the source of brutality.

We were all brutalized, some more than others, and are now magnetized by it. We are like moths to that flame because before we knew brutality, we were whole within and seek it desperately while terrified of showing that need.

So we feed ourselves with crumbs to keep the truth at bay.

There is no need of bandages if there is no wound.

 

[DaaQ]

For somebody who doesn’t react to someone else’s opinion, I would ask you to reconsider. I’d say you have reacted pretty strongly and in error to boot. Of course that is my opinion. I know you because I know me. We are all the same. You simply have not realized this truth because of ego. You fancy yourself as being unique. Only the particulars of how you came to be a self hater are particular to you. The disease is the same.

I am confused as to how you think I reacted strongly and in error too boot?
The rest is of course, you know me because you know you and I somehow fancy myself unique and I have not realized truth because of ego. This is tiring, I am not suffering from any ego or identity issues. I am completely fine with myself and do not hate myself. /sigh.

Simply put, you do not know what love is, more properly, that you have forgotten. You are divided against yourself and unaware of that fact, understand very little. You like the rest of us are lost.

Being mentally healthy does not imply no sex. There is little point even talking about that. You don’t know what sex is, only sex as it is for people who are divided against themselves, people with all the emotional needs of those who have lost themselves.

Yea, not sure what you are trying to imply here. Doesn't apply to me I'm sorry.

In this way we live in a world of fools who suffer from psychological illness. Pornography is there as a substitute for those who who are cut off from feeling real love, love for one’s self. That brutality you mentioned in the part of your post I didn’t quote exists for the same reason. Self hate is the root not only of an incapacity to feel love, it is the source of brutality.

We live in a world with evil people. That was my point. Went on a tangent there, but I do not like to view real human brutality. Movies I am fine with, as that is fictional.

We were all brutalized, some more than others, and are now magnetized by it. We are like moths to that flame because before we knew brutality, we were whole within and seek it desperately while terrified of showing that need.

So we feed ourselves with crumbs to keep the truth at bay.

There is no need of bandages if there is no wound.

I feel bad for you if you were brutalized by other humans, or even if it was some religious indoctrination that traumatized you into thinking everyone is afraid of their sleeping or waking mind//thoughts. Seriously.

What truth are you keeping at bay?

There is always cauterization, (I joke, I joke)

 

[Pens1566]

Jokes on FL, Matt Gaetz can still pay for underage girls on venmo.

Checkmate libtards.

 

[ksheets]

Children shouldn't have access to porn, and I'd like to believe that parents would restrict access to it. But the reality is that often doesn't happen. So while I don't like the state stepping into this, it may be that it's a necessary evil.
Back when we had to visit a seedy theater to watch porn we had to produce an ID to get in, so maybe I'm just used to it.

Now do this one, but substitute guns for porn!

 

[IronWing]

The obvious solution is for folks to deep fake IDs for every Florida politician who voted for the measure and circulate them widely. Even people who don't care about porn should be visiting pron sites and loading those IDs when asked. When the government demands information it has no business demanding, flood the zone.

 

[K1052]

The obvious solution is for folks to deep fake IDs for every Florida politician who voted for the measure and circulate them widely. Even people who don't care about porn should be visiting pron sites and loading those IDs when asked. When the government demands information it has no business demanding, flood the zone.

If you're gonna do this do it from behind a VPN. Would be nice to see some lengthy local news pieces about the FL's governor's exuberant interest in goats.

 

[Ken g6]

The obvious solution is for folks to deep fake IDs for every Florida politician who voted for the measure and circulate them widely. Even people who don't care about porn should be visiting pron sites and loading those IDs when asked. When the government demands information it has no business demanding, flood the zone.

Just so you're aware, making a fake ID appears to be a felony.

 

[IronWing]

Just so you're aware, making a fake ID appears to be a felony.

Felonies don’t matter. - Republicans everywhere

 

[Greenman]

Now do this one, but substitute guns for porn!

I already did that one a few posts back.

 

[MtnMan]

And what teenager know about TOR browser?

 

[hal2kilo]

Sweet dreams are made of this
Who am I to disagree?
I travel the world and the seven seas
Everybody's looking for something
Some of them want to use you
Some of them want to get used by you
Some of them want to abuse you
Some of them want to be abused
Sweet dreams are made of this
Who am I to disagree?
I travel the world and the seven seas
Everybody's looking for something
(Hold your head up, keep your head up) movin' on
(Hold your head up) movin' on, (keep your head up) movin' on
(Hold your head up) movin' on, (keep your head up) movin' on
(Hold your head up) movin' on, (keep your head up)
Some of them want to use you
Some of them want to get used by you
Some of them want to abuse you
Some of them want to be abused
Sweet dreams are made of this
Who am I to disagree?
I travel the world and the seven seas
Everybody's looking for something
Sweet dreams are made of this
Who am I to disagree?
I travel the world and the seven seas
Everybody's looking for something
Sweet dreams are made of this
Who am I to disagree?
I travel the world and the seven seas
Everybody's looking for something
Sweet dreams are made of this
Who am I to disagree?
I travel the world and the seven seas
Everybody's looking for something
Sweet dreams are made of this
Who am I to disagree?
I travel the world and the seven seas
Everybody's looking for something
Sweet dreams are made of this (oh-oh)

 

[SteveGrabowski]

In America essentially any level of violence is entirely acceptable but little Mikey seeing a set of knockers is a bridge too far.

Makes me think of my favorite George Carlin bit:

People much wiser than I am have said I'd rather have my son watch a film with two people making love than two people trying to kill one another. I of course can agree, it's a great sentiment; I wish I knew who said it first. I agree with that but I like to take it a step further. I'd like to substitute the word Fuck for the word Kill in all of those movie cliches we grew up with. Okay, Sheriff, we're gonna fuck you now, but we're gonna fuck you slow.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Felonies don’t matter. - Republicans everywhere

First 34 are free