Poll: Do you think today is the beginning of end for Trump? [Post-Helsinki Summit with Putin]

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Do you think today is the beginning of end for Trump

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 8.5%
  • No

    Votes: 45 54.9%
  • Genuinely not sure

    Votes: 30 36.6%

  • Total voters
    82

SP33Demon

Lifer
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Well, it's been days now since Trump proved himself a Russian stooge and an American traitor, and all has returned back to normal once again.
No impeachment.
Republicans have all but forgotten Trump and Helsinki.
Now.... Donald Trump is tweeting about war with Iran trying to deflect from news that his lawyer did in fact record Donald's involvement with paying off Stormy.
And like a cat chasing a new shiny object, the press has turned to chasing the Trump vs Iran thing.

So obviously, another 24 hours has passed and once again no one even cares.
THIS is why democrats MUST take back the house AND the senate come November.
MUST!!!!
And if democrats can and they still refuse to hold Donald Trump accountable then we're all royally screwed.
Frankly, should Democrats actually win the grand prize in November, the house and the senate, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they just let Donald Trump slide by.
Fail to do anything concerning Donald trump.
I wouldn't be surprised.
He already got the new tax bill through so he'll be the favorite in 2020 as long as the economy keeps humming. Building the wall would just be icing on the cake but it's not necessary at this point. He can just tell the base that he was obstructed from building it, but look at the economy and available jobs (which is a great strategy btw). Focus on the economy, you usually win.
 

Younigue

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So you hate our country? You hope people lose their jobs and the economy tanks? Cool story, brah. How compassionate of you as a liberal. womp womp
Way to go with reading comprehension little fella.
I don't want it but I'm leaning toward wanting it in an attempt to get through it when it inevitably happens.

So, you think loving Trump & squats is loving your country? All I see is a man who hates himself and his country.
 

Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
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You are completely right. There is a problem. The Democrats are not doing a very good job of convincing America that they should not shit in their own bed and lay in it. It seems the message 'How about we don't shit in our bed' is not a good enough message to convince America that shitting in their own bed is not a good idea. America apparently WANTS to shit the bed, and that is the problem. As long as that is true I don't think there is a message good enough to convince them otherwise.
And there it is, the universal liberal answer, "you're stupid". The strategy that's lost congress, the white house, and most states. The moving rhetoric that's handed the Supreme Court to the right for the next forty fucking years. That's a serious ego trip.
 
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ivwshane

Lifer
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And there it is, the universal liberal answer, "you're stupid". The strategy that's lost congress, the white house, and most states. The moving rhetoric that's handed the Supreme Court to the right for the next forty fucking years. That's a serious ego trip.

Um...you do know that the right doesn't have a monopoly on stupidity don't you? You do know that it's possible that the right is full of idiots and that Democrats are idiots when it comes to gaining control of government? Its also possible that the right is full of idiots when it comes to policy and yet be political geniuses when it comes to playing politics or gaining power in government.

I'm sure none of this needs to be explained to you because you aren't an idiot, right?
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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And there it is, the universal liberal answer, "you're stupid". The strategy that's lost congress, the white house, and most states. The moving rhetoric that's handed the Supreme Court to the right for the next forty fucking years. That's a serious ego trip.

That's not the universal liberal answer, at all. How is it we've come to a place where conservatives defend the display of obsequious deference Trump showed to Putin in Helsinki? He was completely fucking owned, and that's completely fucking unacceptable. If you can't wrap your head around that then you're owned at a level so deep that you may never figure out that you are.
 

Muse

Lifer
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*sigh* appallingly I've been leaning toward that myself but I don't feel that bad about it because I see it happening any way.
Hey, recessions are inevitable without a doubt. If the next one gets us over Trump I say bring it on. Recessions aren't fun for a lot of people. Fevers aren't fun but without them you don't get over your infection sometimes.
 

Younigue

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Hey, recessions are inevitable without a doubt. If the next one gets us over Trump I say bring it on. Recessions aren't fun for a lot of people. Fevers aren't fun but without them you don't get over your infection sometimes.
The concern is that it will become a perpetual recession for all but the 1%.
 
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SP33Demon

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Um...you do know that the right doesn't have a monopoly on stupidity don't you? You do know that it's possible that the right is full of idiots and that Democrats are idiots when it comes to gaining control of government? Its also possible that the right is full of idiots when it comes to policy and yet be political geniuses when it comes to playing politics or gaining power in government.

I'm sure none of this needs to be explained to you because you aren't an idiot, right?
Same attitude that lost you 2016. Feigning superiority never got the Dems anywhere *cough hillary cough* and I hope they keep it up for the Midterms. Thumb your nose up at your fellow American some more.
 

SP33Demon

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Hey, recessions are inevitable without a doubt. If the next one gets us over Trump I say bring it on. Recessions aren't fun for a lot of people. Fevers aren't fun but without them you don't get over your infection sometimes.
Cool, you want millions to lose their jobs b/c of who is the president. Are you mentally ill?
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Can someone please get the, "fuck your feelings" cult member a safe space? Apparently he's so insecure that him and his fellow dumb asses voted for trump out of spite!


Lol you are an alpha bitch.
 

Younigue

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Cool, you want millions to lose their jobs b/c of who is the president. Are you mentally ill?
No but your president is. He's gonna rape millions and people like you are going to cheer him on while he's shredding your assholes.
 
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Younigue

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Same attitude that lost you 2016. Feigning superiority never got the Dems anywhere *cough hillary cough* and I hope they keep it up for the Midterms. Thumb your nose up at your fellow American some more.
So what do you call what the Repubs are doing? It's just that in their case they know they're not worth feeling superior. Most Dems actually have that over the majority of republicans. It's because by and large they are actually better and smarter and definitely more decent. It's not "feigning" if it's true but you all douchebags are living on the high of alternate facts these days and corner pounding it while feverishly telling yourselves you're just as good as Dems. You never will be because the Hate Nation you all think you want to live in will make you hate yourselves even more and Dems will still be better even whilst combating that struggle.

By the way bringing up how Dems feel superior and you love watching them pay for it is yet another way you expose your insecurities. Geezuz they're running rampant juuuuust under your skin hey there little buddy? It's unfortunate for you that you worry so much about who thinks/knows they're better than you. You know how much I fret about that? Zero% of the time.
 

Younigue

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How will he rape millions? Be specific.
Well he'd like to do it with his penis but I don't think it works any more. Specific enough for you? If you need anything more than that... No, you're a waste of time in that regard but it's kinda of alright for a moment or two throwing your shit back at you. You're insides are garbage, that is the only path to supporting Trump in anything.
 

SP33Demon

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So what do you call what the Repubs are doing? It's just that in their case they know they're not worth feeling superior. Most Dems actually have that over the majority of republicans. It's because by and large they are actually better and smarter and definitely more decent. It's not "feigning" if it's true but you all douchebags are living on the high of alternate facts these days and corner pounding it while feverishly telling yourselves you're just as good as Dems. You never will be because the Hate Nation you all think you want to live in will make you hate yourselves even more and Dems will still be better even whilst combating that struggle.

By the way bringing up how Dems feel superior and you love watching them pay for it is yet another way you expose your insecurities. Geezuz they're running rampant juuuuust under your skin hey there little buddy? It's unfortunate for you that you worry so much about who thinks/knows they're better than you. You know how much I fret about that? Zero% of the time.
I could post at least 2 studies that show Republicans are smarter (more money = more resources = better educations) but I'm not going to get into a stupid tribal debate over trivial shit. So falsehood #1 = Dems are smarter than Repubs.

Falsehood #2: "Dems will still be better"; you basically just proved my point about having a superiority complex. Nobody is fucking better, but we are all different and useful in different ways. For example, I'm pulling 6 figures and run a side biz. I just hired a social media moderator for around 12/hr part time. He is a vital cog for our company's success. Am I "better" than him? It depends on who you ask. Financially? Sure. Smarts? Who knows, he could be a genius. I sure as hell didn't tell him at his interview that "Hey, I'm better than you financially but will you come work for my company?" Are you getting the point here? Dems can't feign superiority and expect to get something in return (a vote). That's not how human nature works.The sooner that you start humanizing Trump supporters the sooner you can have the Oval Office back. Until then, fuck off!
 

Younigue

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I could post at least 2 studies that show Republicans are smarter (more money = more resources = better educations) but I'm not going to get into a stupid tribal debate over trivial shit. So falsehood #1 = Dems are smarter than Repubs.

Falsehood #2: "Dems will still be better"; you basically just proved my point about having a superiority complex. Nobody is fucking better, but we are all different and useful in different ways. For example, I'm pulling 6 figures and run a side biz. I just hired a social media moderator for around 12/hr part time. He is a vital cog for our company's success. Am I "better" than him? It depends on who you ask. Financially? Sure. Smarts? Who knows, he could be a genius. I sure as hell didn't tell him at his interview that "Hey, I'm better than you financially but will you come work for my company?" Are you getting the point here? Dems can't feign superiority and expect to get something in return (a vote). That's not how human nature works.The sooner that you start humanizing Trump supporters the sooner you can have the Oval Office back. Until then, fuck off!
The difference is I know I'm better. I don't think it. I certainly don't have to talk endlessly about it.

I skimmed this post because *sigh* you're beneath me after all. But at the bottom you told me to fu*k off. <--- the true sign of a smart and decent guy. Well Done! But you've got your squats, that's EVERYTHING!

LOL humanizing Trump supporters! I'll make you a deal with us... Act human for a sustained period of time and we'll consider it. Good luck with that little fella. Again I'm dubious but I want it for you.
 

SP33Demon

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The difference is I know I'm better. I don't think it. I certainly don't have to talk endlessly about it.

I skimmed this post because *sigh* you're beneath me after all. But at the bottom you told me to fu*k off. <--- the true sign of a smart and decent guy. Well Done! But you've got your squats, that's EVERYTHING!

LOL humanizing Trump supporters! I'll make you a deal with us... Act human for a sustained period of time and we'll consider it. Good luck with that little fella. Again I'm dubious but I want it for you.
Yeah, that's how Trump supporters think. If you want to dehumanize them, they'll tell you to F off. We don't care. Keep in mind that we aren't saying we're better than people in a smug way. How do you know I don't have more education than you? That I make a lot more than you? or whatever metric you define as "better"...

The fact is, I know I'm better but don't usually say it to people in person. In fact, when I interviewed for my 6 figure job I knew I was better than everyone in that room b/c I could outwork every single one of them - look at their undisciplined fat stomachs. Was I telling it to their faces? No, because I'm not stupid and wanted something from them. Dems should be employing the same mentality. It ain't the end of the world to treat everyone you meet with decency no matter who they voted for whether you feel superior or not. I don't give shit if you voted for Bernie or Hillary since I can usually change their mind in person since I read up on what they're brainwashed with.
 

Younigue

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Yeah, that's how Trump supporters think. If you want to dehumanize them, they'll tell you to F off. We don't care. Keep in mind that we aren't saying we're better than people in a smug way. How do you know I don't have more education than you? That I make a lot more than you? or whatever metric you define as "better"...

The fact is, I know I'm better but don't usually say it to people in person. In fact, when I interviewed for my 6 figure job I knew I was better than everyone in that room b/c I could outwork every single one of them - look at their undisciplined fat stomachs. Was I telling it to their faces? No, because I'm not stupid and wanted something from them. Dems should be employing the same mentality. It ain't the end of the world to treat everyone you meet with decency no matter who they voted for whether you feel superior or not. I don't give shit if you voted for Bernie or Hillary since I can usually change their mind in person since I read up on what they're brainwashed with.
I quit high school after 10th grade, you likely have more formal education than me. You may have more money than me... I love myself. I love my life. I don't hold myself above you for any reason other than your personal choice to be a Trump supporter. It's not that you're republican or a conservative or even a gym bunny. To be a Trump supporter is to be Less than human. It's a choice. They are ugly, disgusting and now traitorous, purposely stupid, greedy, scum of the earth.

I misspoke earlier. It's not republicans I know are inferior to Dems... It's Trump supporters I know with zero doubt are the lowest form of "human" being. Literally everyone else is on the same playing field as me as far as I'm concerned but not Trump supporters. Honestly, they no longer qualify as humans among humans. They are a plague among humans and they're proud of it (<--- That's because of their stupidity).

Ugh! Hadda throw your 6 figures in to the conversation didn'tcha? Truly you are so very weak and impotent. Again you put emphasis on stupid shit. You're just too shallow dude. I'm embarrassed for you.
 
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Younigue

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I don't give shit if you voted for Bernie or Hillary since I can usually change their mind in person since I read up on what they're brainwashed with
Holy shit this sentence! No part of it would make me trust your comprehension on what you read up on. Buddy, Come on!
 

JSt0rm

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And there it is, the universal liberal answer, "you're stupid". The strategy that's lost congress, the white house, and most states. The moving rhetoric that's handed the Supreme Court to the right for the next forty fucking years. That's a serious ego trip.

so sensitive. If we had only know you were destroying the country because we called you stupid we would of never done it. Please forgive us.
 
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SMOGZINN

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And there it is, the universal liberal answer, "you're stupid". The strategy that's lost congress, the white house, and most states. The moving rhetoric that's handed the Supreme Court to the right for the next forty fucking years. That's a serious ego trip.

I used to be the guy that defended every view. I used to believe that it was through compromise and public discourse that we found the right answers. Everyone had a part of the solution and it was when we brought all that together that we moved forward. Liberals were good at maintaining social standards and caring for the downtrodden, Conservatives were good at maintaining the economy and keeping the liberals social programs grounded in the reality of what we can actually accomplish.

But it was posters like you that changed my mind on that. You, and the majority of Trump supporters, don't want to work with anyone. All you are actually interested in is hurting other people to make yourself feel better by making them feel worse. Trump, you, and all the people like you are nothing more than school yard bullies. You are so full of anger you can't see that your petty antics are hurting everyone, including yourself. But you are happy to hurt as long as you can point at someone else that is hurting worse and laugh at them.

I'm done with your type. I don't care if you don't like that I think you are stupid. I don't care that you are angry. You are acting like a child, so you will be treated like a child. Put on your big boy pants and maybe you can have a seat at the big boy table anymore.

And yes, I know we lost. I know that this attitude doesn't help. But you know what, not having it didn't help either. That is the way of human civilization. Every now and then the idiots get riled up and burn their own houses down. It has happened again and again throughout human history. There is no winning against it. It doesn't really matter what strategy we take, you are going to burn it down out of spite.