POLL: Do you think O.J. is a double murderer or not?

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FuZoR

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this happen when i was in 6th grade... my teacher was crying that the verdict came to not gulity.

personally though i didnt care at the time... but read about it a few years ago..
GUILTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Ranger X

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My teacher was pissed when he heard the verdict (near tears). What did I learn from the OJ trial? Money buys you freedom after a heinous crime.
 

Wuffsunie

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Originally posted by: Kyteland
Originally posted by: Babbles
Then I remember a couple of years later when I was in college and my genetics prof said something like the DNA evidence of the trial had a 1 in 6 billion chance of it NOT being him; and at the time there was 5 billion or so people in the world. I thought that was rather amusing.
You are analyzing that information wrong.

there is a 1 in 6,000,000,000 chance of it not being him
p(being OJ) = 1/6,000,000,000
p(not being OJ) = 5,999,999,999
There were 5,000,000,000 people in the world at the time.

The probability that there were exactly X people in the world with that DNA match is determined by this math formula.
f(X) = combin(5000000000, X) * (1/6000000000)^(X) * (5999999999/6000000000)^(5000000000-X)
To determine the probability that 2 or more people in the world existed that would mathch that DNA is determined by this
p(>=2) = 1 - f(0) - f(1)
f(0) = 0.434598178511218
f(1) = 0.362165148819709
so p(>=2) = 0.203236672669073

there was a 20.32% chance that someone else in the wold existed that would match that DNA test.

I vote that he's guilty, but at least understand the math. :p
Aren't you analyzing it wrong? Look at the very start; you say the chance of it NOT being OJ is 1 in 6 billion, yet that's the stat you use for it being him.

After having a friend of mine who's way more inclined at math than I am run this through, the final chance for somone else matching that DNA sample is about 0.83 in 5 billion.

So there's a 0.000000000166% chance of there being another person.
 

Zim Hosein

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Originally posted by: spidey07
guilty beyond belief. 100% guilty.

No way he could be innocent.

guilty

That sums up my thoughts as well! :beer:
 

Wallydraigle

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Originally posted by: chibchacan
Why do people still care so much about this? :confused:


Because someone who everyone knows murdered two people got off with no criminal guilt, and walks among us? He could go get a job as a greeter at Walmart, or a pizza delivery guy, or a daycare worker. Doesn't that bother you just a little?

 

Soccer55

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I don't know why everyone is debating this. He's clearly innocent.....he said it himself and has even been putting up his own money for the past 8 years to search for the real killers. They've been making it pretty tough though as they sure know how to cover their tracks well. I hope he finds them soon and brings them to justice.....

-Tom
 

Kyteland

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Originally posted by: Wuffsunie
Originally posted by: Kyteland
Originally posted by: Babbles
Then I remember a couple of years later when I was in college and my genetics prof said something like the DNA evidence of the trial had a 1 in 6 billion chance of it NOT being him; and at the time there was 5 billion or so people in the world. I thought that was rather amusing.
You are analyzing that information wrong.

there is a 1 in 6,000,000,000 chance of it not being him
p(being OJ) = 1/6,000,000,000
p(not being OJ) = 5,999,999,999
There were 5,000,000,000 people in the world at the time.

The probability that there were exactly X people in the world with that DNA match is determined by this math formula.
f(X) = combin(5000000000, X) * (1/6000000000)^(X) * (5999999999/6000000000)^(5000000000-X)
To determine the probability that 2 or more people in the world existed that would mathch that DNA is determined by this
p(>=2) = 1 - f(0) - f(1)
f(0) = 0.434598178511218
f(1) = 0.362165148819709
so p(>=2) = 0.203236672669073

there was a 20.32% chance that someone else in the wold existed that would match that DNA test.

I vote that he's guilty, but at least understand the math. :p
Aren't you analyzing it wrong? Look at the very start; you say the chance of it NOT being OJ is 1 in 6 billion, yet that's the stat you use for it being him.

After having a friend of mine who's way more inclined at math than I am run this through, the final chance for somone else matching that DNA sample is about 0.83 in 5 billion.

So there's a 0.000000000166% chance of there being another person.

No, I did it right, although the wording might not be the best.

If you pick any person in the world randomly there is a 1/6000000000 chance that their DNA test will turn out the same as OJ. The math equations above are correct.

I suppose if we exclude OJ from the 5000000000 people in the world (we already know he mathes the test, right?) then the probabiliy that there is at least one person in the world who would match him is 1-p(0) = 0.5655.

If you think this math is wrong please provide proof.
 

Yes. However, the police botched their investigation hardcore. Did you see the number of police walking around the crime scene all willy nilly? No established safe routes, no isolation from anything. They didnt find evidence until a day or 2 later (I'm talking the obvious stuff) and when they did find it, it was never handled properly. The prosecutor may have been inept, but they sure werent helped at ALL by the WORST police investigation in recent history.