*Poll* Do you belive that all creature on earth were created via Evolution?

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AZGamer

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
As for books written by heretics and/or atheists, they are simply invalid.
At least according to the lunatics at the JBS.

Of course, the scientific fringe may disagree, but moral people will agree with the above statement.

Calling Darwin's Theory of Evolution a theory is fine, claiming it is right is as outrageous as claiming the Free Masons will take control of the world. They are both equally laughable, and very incorrect.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: AZGamer
is pure Fundamentalist Rhetoric. Nobody worships Evolution and nobody is using Science as a religion, at least not in this thread.

Sorry, the Bible is a good story book, but Darwin was right.

Hmm... believeing the word of a mortal over the word of God? That seems alot like an alternate "faith".

not if god doesn't exist.... you assume one does.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: AZGamer
Originally posted by: glen
It's called the "Theory of Evolution", not the "Bible of Evolution". Do not worship it as a faith, simply understand it's a theory that has yet to be conclusively proven for good.
You do not understand what that means. You need to read soemthing by Richard Dawkins or Stephen Gould. Or at least the Scientific American article. The "Theory" has been proven.

Evolve for me, I dare you.

Can't?

Find another planet similar to earth, and start or show evolution there.

Can't?

Those two would be proofs. Otherwise, it's just a theory.

As for books written by heretics and/or atheists, they are simply invalid.

so what was the point of this post? to show how little you know about evolution? one being does not just *evolve*....
 

AZGamer

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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: AZGamer
is pure Fundamentalist Rhetoric. Nobody worships Evolution and nobody is using Science as a religion, at least not in this thread.
Sorry, the Bible is a good story book, but Darwin was right.
Hmm... believeing the word of a mortal over the word of God? That seems alot like an alternate "faith".
not if god doesn't exist.... you assume one does.

I have faith in the bible, that is religion.

Someone else has faith in a Scientifiy Theory, that is religion.

"Faith" is the key word here.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: AZGamer
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
As for books written by heretics and/or atheists, they are simply invalid.
At least according to the lunatics at the JBS.

Of course, the scientific fringe may disagree, but moral people will agree with the above statement.

Calling Darwin's Theory of Evolution a theory is fine, claiming it is right is as outrageous as claiming the Free Masons will take control of the world. They are both equally laughable, and very incorrect.

moral? is that to say that non-religious people are a-moral?
 

AZGamer

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so what was the point of this post? to show how little you know about evolution? one being does not just *evolve*....

Evolve for me was more of a general statement to show some of the fallacies of blindly accepting evolution.

I realize one being does not evolve.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: AZGamer
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: AZGamer
is pure Fundamentalist Rhetoric. Nobody worships Evolution and nobody is using Science as a religion, at least not in this thread.
Sorry, the Bible is a good story book, but Darwin was right.
Hmm... believeing the word of a mortal over the word of God? That seems alot like an alternate "faith".
not if god doesn't exist.... you assume one does.

I have faith in the bible, that is religion.

Someone else has faith in a Scientifiy Theory, that is religion.

"Faith" is the key word here.

no, you don't know the meaning of the word "religion".
 

jonmullen

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I believe in evolution. When you think about it, which makes more sense. That there is some omnipresent being that got borded one day and decided to create a little world "in his likeness" Or that we evolved throught a proven process that can be tracked through the fossil recoreded and has been recreated in smaller lab settings. I believe creation is some man's way of makeing himself fell more powerful and in control.

BTY---I am a non-catholic going to catholic high school. Try to figure that one out. Religion is opium for the masses.
 

Red Dawn

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Hmm... believeing the word of a mortal over the word of God? That seems alot like an alternate "faith".
Alternate to what, Religion? Nonsense. It's an attempt to explain the Universes origin along with our own in a Logical manner.

 

BD231

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Originally posted by: AZGamer
Originally posted by: glen
It's called the "Theory of Evolution", not the "Bible of Evolution". Do not worship it as a faith, simply understand it's a theory that has yet to be conclusively proven for good.
You do not understand what that means. You need to read soemthing by Richard Dawkins or Stephen Gould. Or at least the Scientific American article. The "Theory" has been proven.

Evolve for me, I dare you.

Can't?

Find another planet similar to earth, and start or show evolution there.

Can't?

Those two would be proofs. Otherwise, it's just a theory.

As for books written by heretics and/or atheists, they are simply invalid.

Do you think every part of evolution is completely false? Including cellular change?

 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: AZGamer
so what was the point of this post? to show how little you know about evolution? one being does not just *evolve*....

Evolve for me was more of a general statement to show some of the fallacies of blindly accepting evolution.

I realize one being does not evolve.

how does it show a fallacy? what you asked him to do is impossible, irregardless of whether or not evolution is fact, and anybody with half a brain knows that.
 

AZGamer

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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: AZGamer
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
As for books written by heretics and/or atheists, they are simply invalid.
At least according to the lunatics at the JBS.
Of course, the scientific fringe may disagree, but moral people will agree with the above statement. Calling Darwin's Theory of Evolution a theory is fine, claiming it is right is as outrageous as claiming the Free Masons will take control of the world. They are both equally laughable, and very incorrect.
moral? is that to say that non-religious people are a-moral?

Where to start....

To call someone moral is someone who believes that there are absolute rights, and absolute wrongs. Accepting that, many of them accept that God etc... Most people who accept God do not have faith in any fallacies such as "Evolution as a faith".
 

AZGamer

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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: AZGamer
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: AZGamer
is pure Fundamentalist Rhetoric. Nobody worships Evolution and nobody is using Science as a religion, at least not in this thread.
Sorry, the Bible is a good story book, but Darwin was right.
Hmm... believeing the word of a mortal over the word of God? That seems alot like an alternate "faith".
not if god doesn't exist.... you assume one does.
I have faith in the bible, that is religion. Someone else has faith in a Scientifiy Theory, that is religion. "Faith" is the key word here.
no, you don't know the meaning of the word "religion".

Meant to add an "a" there, I have faith, that is A religion.

If you don't know what religion means, you should look it up in a dictionary.
 

DougK62

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Originally posted by: AZGamer
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: AZGamer
is pure Fundamentalist Rhetoric. Nobody worships Evolution and nobody is using Science as a religion, at least not in this thread.
Sorry, the Bible is a good story book, but Darwin was right.
Hmm... believeing the word of a mortal over the word of God? That seems alot like an alternate "faith".
not if god doesn't exist.... you assume one does.

I have faith in the bible, that is religion.

Someone else has faith in a Scientifiy Theory, that is religion.

"Faith" is the key word here.


I have faith in myself to do well on my lit. test on Tuesday.

Does that mean my religion is myself?

Faith can mean a lot of different things...


 

AZGamer

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Originally posted by: BD231
Originally posted by: AZGamer
Originally posted by: glen
It's called the "Theory of Evolution", not the "Bible of Evolution". Do not worship it as a faith, simply understand it's a theory that has yet to be conclusively proven for good.
You do not understand what that means. You need to read soemthing by Richard Dawkins or Stephen Gould. Or at least the Scientific American article. The "Theory" has been proven.
Evolve for me, I dare you. Can't? Find another planet similar to earth, and start or show evolution there. Can't? Those two would be proofs. Otherwise, it's just a theory. As for books written by heretics and/or atheists, they are simply invalid.
Do you think every part of evolution is completely false? Including cellular change?

There is a big difference between Macro and Micro evolution.

I do not believe we all evolved from nothingness to a big bang to prokaryotes etc..

I do believe that there are basic inherited traits between two members of the same species (Blonde hair, height, etc), and that small changes will occur as certain ones reproduce and others do not.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: AZGamer
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: AZGamer
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
As for books written by heretics and/or atheists, they are simply invalid.
At least according to the lunatics at the JBS.
Of course, the scientific fringe may disagree, but moral people will agree with the above statement. Calling Darwin's Theory of Evolution a theory is fine, claiming it is right is as outrageous as claiming the Free Masons will take control of the world. They are both equally laughable, and very incorrect.
moral? is that to say that non-religious people are a-moral?

Where to start....

To call someone moral is someone who believes that there are absolute rights, and absolute wrongs. Accepting that, many of them accept that God etc... Most people who accept God do not have faith in any fallacies such as "Evolution as a faith".

you still haven't shown why you make the distinction between non-religious people and moral people.

do you have proof evolution is a fallacy, or do you just like the sound of the word "fallacy"?
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: AZGamer
Originally posted by: BD231
Originally posted by: AZGamer
Originally posted by: glen
It's called the "Theory of Evolution", not the "Bible of Evolution". Do not worship it as a faith, simply understand it's a theory that has yet to be conclusively proven for good.
You do not understand what that means. You need to read soemthing by Richard Dawkins or Stephen Gould. Or at least the Scientific American article. The "Theory" has been proven.
Evolve for me, I dare you. Can't? Find another planet similar to earth, and start or show evolution there. Can't? Those two would be proofs. Otherwise, it's just a theory. As for books written by heretics and/or atheists, they are simply invalid.
Do you think every part of evolution is completely false? Including cellular change?

There is a big difference between Macro and Micro evolution.

I do not believe we all evolved from nothingness to a big bang to prokaryotes etc..

I do believe that there are basic inherited traits between two members of the same species (Blonde hair, height, etc), and that small changes will occur as certain ones reproduce and others do not.

would you care to describe that big difference?
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: AZGamer
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: AZGamer
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: AZGamer
is pure Fundamentalist Rhetoric. Nobody worships Evolution and nobody is using Science as a religion, at least not in this thread.
Sorry, the Bible is a good story book, but Darwin was right.
Hmm... believeing the word of a mortal over the word of God? That seems alot like an alternate "faith".
not if god doesn't exist.... you assume one does.
I have faith in the bible, that is religion. Someone else has faith in a Scientifiy Theory, that is religion. "Faith" is the key word here.
no, you don't know the meaning of the word "religion".

Meant to add an "a" there, I have faith, that is A religion.

If you don't know what religion means, you should look it up in a dictionary.


i asked you if YOU know what religion means. i already know what it means, do you? the "A" doesn't make a difference.
 

AZGamer

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Originally posted by: XZeroII
This is not meant to be a Evolution vs. Creationism debate, I'm just wondering how many people actually believe this. If you do believe it, provide proof in words that everyone can understand. What I am trying to determine is how many people will believe anything/everything that they are taught in school without any actually critical thinking. I'm not looking for links to articles that explain this, I want to hear YOUR proof. Why exactly do YOU believe it? (You can refer to articles, but don't just create a link, or cut and paste a few pages and leave it at that) Coherent thoughts and sentences would be appreciated. Something like "Dinosaur bones are found" doesn't count because you would be an idiot.

A little too late for that :)

Someone start a new thread so we stop hijacking this one.
 

DougK62

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Originally posted by: AZGamer
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: AZGamer
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
As for books written by heretics and/or atheists, they are simply invalid.
At least according to the lunatics at the JBS.
Of course, the scientific fringe may disagree, but moral people will agree with the above statement. Calling Darwin's Theory of Evolution a theory is fine, claiming it is right is as outrageous as claiming the Free Masons will take control of the world. They are both equally laughable, and very incorrect.
moral? is that to say that non-religious people are a-moral?

Where to start....

To call someone moral is someone who believes that there are absolute rights, and absolute wrongs. Accepting that, many of them accept that God etc... Most people who accept God do not have faith in any fallacies such as "Evolution as a faith".

This is SO completely ignorant.

I do believe in absolute rights and wrongs - my brain tells me which is which. This makes me a "moral" person by your definition. That I don't believe in your god is inconsequential. And why do you assume that most people who believe in absolute wrongs and rights accept your god? The majority of the world is NOT Christian.