Poll: Do quaterbacks have to be good athletes to be good?

[Garet Jax]

I say no. They have to be smart and they have to have a good arm, but they don't have to be good athletes to be good. No different than pitchers except for the smart thing.

 

[filmmaker]

Brett Farve has been doing it for years. (j/k)

 

[hdeck]

yes. if they weren't athletic they couldn't play.

 

[Garet Jax]

Originally posted by: hdeck
yes. if they weren't athletic they couldn't play.

Why not? Baseball pitchers can....

 

[filmmaker]

Originally posted by: hdeck
yes. if they weren't athletic they couldn't play.

I think the question here is all around good athletes for the sport they play in.

 

[waylman]

depends on your defenition of "good athlete" I think someone with a good arm = good athlete so my answer is yes.

 

[Mani]

Originally posted by: Garet Jax
I say no. They have to be smart and they have to have a good arm, but they don't have to be good athletes to be good. No different than pitchers except for the smart thing.

I pretty much agree. Out of athleticism, a great arm, and smarts, I think they need at least any 2 of the 3.

 

[Mani]

Originally posted by: waylman
depends on your defenition of "good athlete" I think someone with a good arm = good athlete so my answer is yes.

I took it to mean athlete = mobile.

 

[Tetsuo]

Originally posted by: waylman
I think someone with a good arm = good athlete so my answer is yes.

 

[hdeck]

Originally posted by: Garet Jax

Originally posted by: hdeck
yes. if they weren't athletic they couldn't play.

Why not? Baseball pitchers can....

baseball pitchers don't run around a 100 x 50 yard field for a few hours straight. they stand in 1 spot and throw the ball to one spot.

 

[Garet Jax]

Originally posted by: Tetsuo

Originally posted by: waylman
I think someone with a good arm = good athlete so my answer is yes.

So someone who plays darts is a good athlete?

 

[RagingBITCH]

What does "good athlete" mean anyway? All depends on your definition. If you're talking just overall fitness condition, have you ever seen a fat quarterback? If you're talking mobile, Troy Aikman is the biggest name I can think of that couldn't move out of the pocket much but had excellent accuracy and is considered a top QB in the '90s.

 

[Garet Jax]

Originally posted by: hdeck
baseball pitchers don't run around a 100 x 50 yard field for a few hours straight. they stand in 1 spot and throw the ball to one spot.

Arguably, nor do all quarterbacks. Jim Kelly was one of the most immobile players I have ever seen, yet most consider him a good quarterback.

 

[Garet Jax]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
What does "good athlete" mean anyway? All depends on your definition. If you're talking just overall fitness condition, have you ever seen a fat quarterback? If you're talking mobile, Troy Aikman is the biggest name I can think of that couldn't move out of the pocket much but had excellent accuracy and is considered a top QB in the '90s.

Good question. I guess I mean someone who is athletic: can jump high, run fast, etc...

 

[waylman]

Originally posted by: Garet Jax

Originally posted by: Tetsuo

Originally posted by: waylman
I think someone with a good arm = good athlete so my answer is yes.

So someone who plays darts is a good athlete?

no, but someone who is top 20 in the world in darts is a good athlete in my opinion.

 

[Lyfer]

Not EVERYONE can throw the ball 65 yards with accuracy, if you can do that you're a damn good ATHLETE in my book. BTW NOT EVERYONE can throw a baseball 90+mph, only ATHLETES with god given abilities can do this.


THERE ARE MANY ATHLETES, but if they are smart also (i.e. Steve Young, Joe Montana) they will go far.

 

[hdeck]

Originally posted by: Garet Jax

Originally posted by: hdeck
baseball pitchers don't run around a 100 x 50 yard field for a few hours straight. they stand in 1 spot and throw the ball to one spot.

Arguably, nor do all quarterbacks. Jim Kelly was one of the most immobile players I have ever seen, yet most consider him a good quarterback.

these days you have to be mobile to be good. regardless, it takes more than just a strong arm to be good. you have to have good stamina and endurance as well.

 

[Garet Jax]

Originally posted by: Lyfer
Not EVERYONE can throw the ball 65 yards with accuracy, if you can do that you're a damn good ATHLETE in my book. BTW NOT EVERYONE can throw a baseball 90+mph, only ATHLETES with god given abilities can do this.


THERE ARE MANY ATHLETES, but if they are smart also (i.e. Steve Young, Joe Montana) they will go far.

I would say these people would be more skilled than athletic.

I knew a guy who was competitive at every sport he ever tried. His balance was uncanny and he was very athletic. He was able to do things well with very little practice. Yet he wasn't particularily skilled at many of them.

The best example I can think of is a guy who plays (played) for the Orlando Magic named Bo Outlaw. He was always making good things happen for his team and bad things happen for the other team, but he wasn't very skilled at basketball (compared to the rest of the league). He wasn't great at offense or defense, but he was a valuable addition to the team.

 

[Pocatello]

Yes, guys like Bret Favre, Steve Young, John Elway, Joe Montana are good at getting out of trouble and throw accurately to a receiver. Even if you're not mobile, you have to be pretty strong to take hits and get up for the next play.

 

[waylman]

if someone is skilled in a sport, doesn't that make them a good athlete?

 

[Garet Jax]

Originally posted by: Garet Jax

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
What does "good athlete" mean anyway? All depends on your definition. If you're talking just overall fitness condition, have you ever seen a fat quarterback? If you're talking mobile, Troy Aikman is the biggest name I can think of that couldn't move out of the pocket much but had excellent accuracy and is considered a top QB in the '90s.

Good question. I guess I mean someone who is athletic: can jump high, run fast, etc...

Another way to put it is if you take quarterbacks out of football and throw them into a sport requiring athleticism would they be any good?

McNabb hands down is a great athlete.
I am not so sure about Jim Kelly or other quaterbacks comparable to Kelly.

 

[alkemyst]

I guarantee even the most out of shape pitcher can hand most average guys their ass.

There are tons of guys that are smarter and probably can throw a ball better, but they aren't pro ball material.

 

[Garet Jax]

Originally posted by: waylman
if someone is skilled in a sport, doesn't that make them a good athlete?

I don't think so. The best example I can think of is Kirby Puckett. He was great at hitting the ball, but the trip around the bases was a hardship for him.

Most lineman are big, strong and very skilled at controlling other big, strong men, but not good athletes.

 

[Garet Jax]

Originally posted by: alkemystI guarantee even the most out of shape pitcher can hand most average guys their ass.

In baseball, absolutely. But you take a pitcher out of baseball and put them in a sport requiring athelticism, would they be any good.

 

[waylman]

Originally posted by: Garet Jax

Originally posted by: alkemystI guarantee even the most out of shape pitcher can hand most average guys their ass.

In baseball, absolutely. But you take a pitcher out of baseball and put them in a sport requiring athelticism, would they be any good.

i think where things go awry in this argument is there is no clear defenition of you mean by "athleticism." For instance, IMO, all MLB baseball pitchers are without a doubt, great athletes. It seems to me you think an athlete is someone who can run fast, or jump high, but I don't think that definition really works. If you look at the PGA for instance, there are some overweight guys that couldn't run a 10 second 40, but they do break par regularly...IMO, that makes them great athletes.