I think I get seasonal affective disorder, except the seasons include fall, winter, and spring 
I don't know why school makes it worse, I just feel sh!te during the weekdays. Sometimes I think it wouldn't be so bad if there wasn't the stigma attached to it. I mean sometimes I *prefer* to feel blue (sounds morbid) like listening to Radiohead through headphones on a rainy day, or lying in bed all day. It's just that I think people interpret it that I'm being cold or untowardly, so I have to put on the happy face and try to entertain them (and when I fail I get depressed for real). I think that happy people don't spend a lot of time analyzing their faults and wrongs. I used to think that was a fault in itself ("ignorance is bliss"), but they may be the better for it.
I don't know why school makes it worse, I just feel sh!te during the weekdays. Sometimes I think it wouldn't be so bad if there wasn't the stigma attached to it. I mean sometimes I *prefer* to feel blue (sounds morbid) like listening to Radiohead through headphones on a rainy day, or lying in bed all day. It's just that I think people interpret it that I'm being cold or untowardly, so I have to put on the happy face and try to entertain them (and when I fail I get depressed for real). I think that happy people don't spend a lot of time analyzing their faults and wrongs. I used to think that was a fault in itself ("ignorance is bliss"), but they may be the better for it.
Kadarin
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One way to cure that is visit Rotten dot com and look at the aftermath; you will no longer wish to commit suicide by train, that's for sure.
I am not depressed, and do not need Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, or Viagra just to get through daily life. However, when I left college (without graduating) and before I got my career going, I was mildly depressed to where it was sometimes hard to get motivated to do stuff, but this never required drugs..
Seeing the results won't fix it. Only reason I decided against using that when I want to end it is cause I'm still a tiny bit too social to do that to the train driver, the people who have to clean up the mess, and those who still care about me. I rather go in a way where no one will know it nor will find out about it.
Geekbabe
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yes,after I had my son,it was one of the worst times of my life.Plus it happened so gradually that nobody noticed really till my brother came from out of state to visit and became alarmed at how thin and sad I'd become, a few months of treatment with medication made a world of difference in my life. Depression is frequently caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain and is very treatable !
Well, the two years before that six month depression wasn't exactly a stroll through the park for me. Its one of those things that is so goddamned painful to think about there is no other way to deal with it but to laugh because its a whole lot nicer than crying.
Depression is bullsh!t. I answered #3 ..
a good friend of mine wrote something I like about this topic:
"<SPAN class=postbody>happy-good, angry-bad;
All sounds like moral dogma to me.
Theyre all just emotional states; just reactionary impulses to outside stimuli regulated by your brain releasing neurotransmitters (seratonin) into the presynaptic axon terminal. Its all just bio-chemical.
I wouldnt go so far as to prescribe moral judgments to things like chemical levels.
Emotions, all of them, are beautiful.
Humans have been gifted with an amazing depth of colours of feeling. To say that happiness is positive and sadness is negative is trite.
If you look at great and affectual works of art and culture theyre not all paintings of flowers or poems about a rainbow.
Without feelings of loss or tragedy we wouldn't have requiems or operas. Without anger and feelings of injustice we wouldnt have revolutions.
Its what you do these emotions, its how you choose to make it inspire you; thats what counts.
This Prozac/Paxil world we live in fosters apathy in a time when we SHOULD be angry and pissed off. The "World sucks, take a pill" attitude is so tragicaly complacent. It robs us of our drive to affect change and more importantly our humanity. "</SPAN>
a good friend of mine wrote something I like about this topic:
"<SPAN class=postbody>happy-good, angry-bad;
All sounds like moral dogma to me.
Theyre all just emotional states; just reactionary impulses to outside stimuli regulated by your brain releasing neurotransmitters (seratonin) into the presynaptic axon terminal. Its all just bio-chemical.
I wouldnt go so far as to prescribe moral judgments to things like chemical levels.
Emotions, all of them, are beautiful.
Humans have been gifted with an amazing depth of colours of feeling. To say that happiness is positive and sadness is negative is trite.
If you look at great and affectual works of art and culture theyre not all paintings of flowers or poems about a rainbow.
Without feelings of loss or tragedy we wouldn't have requiems or operas. Without anger and feelings of injustice we wouldnt have revolutions.
Its what you do these emotions, its how you choose to make it inspire you; thats what counts.
This Prozac/Paxil world we live in fosters apathy in a time when we SHOULD be angry and pissed off. The "World sucks, take a pill" attitude is so tragicaly complacent. It robs us of our drive to affect change and more importantly our humanity. "</SPAN>
i don't think i've ever had depression, not to say that i haven't been depressed over something more than once. It's amazing how common depression is.
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Yes, and it's horrible. Go see a doctor and get some meds. I have little side effects with mine. Still get touches of it from time to time.
Depression is physiological many times. Chemical imbalances can cause it. I've been on Zoloft for seven years and it works.
Depression is not something you can "snap out of". If you really think that, you don't understand it.
Depression is physiological many times. Chemical imbalances can cause it. I've been on Zoloft for seven years and it works.
Depression is not something you can "snap out of". If you really think that, you don't understand it.
It's not that common, most people who think about suicide, or say they do, will never really consider it, nor think about it constantly. A lot of people think feeling down once in a while is the same as truly being depressed. Your life can be hell without you being depressed, and it can be heaven while you get in a deeper and deeper depression.
A lot of people think they have known depression if they have ever been unhappy, but depression is despair. Life has no meaning anymore. Happiness does not matter anymore, as life does not matter.
A good freind of mine went out one night this summer and laid his head down on a railroad track here in Toronto. I heard about it the next day. No note, no warning. Those who were very intimate with him (his girlfriend) told me later that he'd talk about this kind of thing from time to time. This was a brilliant kid, was studying with Steve Mann (for those who know who the cyborg is) and was generally a great guy to hang out with. He was a one of a kind and I don't mean that lightly. I always had the best conversations with him and he was a real pleasure to have around.
The despair got to him.
Someone said that real depression isn't just feeling sorry for yourself, real depression is despair.
I disagree, I think that real depression is feeling sorry for yourself and despair is DESPAIR.
Despair is something that every human being can face, I think that despair is a reason why people choose religion. They'd rather face that than the idea that life is completely absurd and meaningless. When you take into account the gluttonous culture that we live in that is totally disrespectful to LIFE .. well then you really have stuff to be down about. This world is not for everyone, some people choose to get off the ride, others are just too curious to leave.
So for any of you that are entertaining thoughts about suicide, I urge you to rethink it. Attending the funeral of a 23 year old that has killed himself will change your entire perspective on everything. Missing someone that you had great respect and admiration for is harder to deal with than not having a girlfriend, or being socially inept.
smp, you make a wonderful and important point. I'm with you all the way to the point where baffled2's wisdom needs to be considered. There is, I think, a real possibility that some depression is chemical, and chemically treatable in preference to suicide. I don't know when or who.
I once knew that I would never ever be happy, that life was black and without meaning, utterly and completely empty. I read and demolished philosophy and religion like a shredding machine. The so called wise men are fools. They have all built castles on sand. Then I found some odd balls, the Zen masters who say the same but laugh. They laugh, how could that be? How can that be? How can that be? At the center of anything important is paradox. I'll offer this one just in case somebody has a taste for it:
Depression is being depressed about being depressed. That second step is optional.
I once knew that I would never ever be happy, that life was black and without meaning, utterly and completely empty. I read and demolished philosophy and religion like a shredding machine. The so called wise men are fools. They have all built castles on sand. Then I found some odd balls, the Zen masters who say the same but laugh. They laugh, how could that be? How can that be? How can that be? At the center of anything important is paradox. I'll offer this one just in case somebody has a taste for it:
Depression is being depressed about being depressed. That second step is optional.
Depression is not about feeling sorry for yourself. Depression can have that effect, and can have that cause. But is not just that. It is not just despair either, but that is one of the feelings closest to it. Most of my life I have simply hated myself, hated my weaknesses. If I was with a group and someone needed to take a risk I didn't mind being the one as I didn't care whether I lived or died, whether I'd get hurt, or whatever. That is not feeling sorry for myself.
There are many types of depression, and a lot of them require more or less urgent attention from a professional, but what will help at least a bit for most sufferers is someone who understands, who is willing to listen and who doesn't tell them to just get on with their lives. If someone comes to you to talk to you, and you know he or she is suffering from a depression, make time. Or make sure someone else is there for them. Disinterest will make it even worse.
I've had it for a long time. It runs in my moms side of the family :frown:. I've got gad & sad too so that doesnt help either. I've tried alot of medicines, but none of them really seem to help.
Not hardly. If anything, it's under-treated. Most people don't reach out for assistance when they need it. Also, if you do seek treatment - and then desire to purchase health insurance from another provider, good luck!! Most health insurance options won't cover you if you've made any recent mental health claims. Or, if they do, they'll charge you some enormous premium. Clearly, I can see why people tend to keep mental health issues a secret. "Damned if you do, damned if you don't"
On a somewhat side note:
My gf was diagnosed with some anxiety disorder, although you really didnt need a doctor to tell you that. She was constantly worrying about everything, even if she knew it was miniscule, and most of the time, she didnt even know WHY she was worrying. I had always tried to get her to go to the doctor about it, but the immediate response was "I'm not crazy" or "theyll give me drugs that will change me".
Eventually, someone with exactly her symptoms recommended asking the doctor for paxil. So she goes to the doctor, and he recommends it as well. It took her a week before she finally started taking it, and then another 2 weeks or so before it really started to kick in.
But they work. They work well. She doesnt worry about meaningless things anymore, only things that really matter. She says it isnt an artificial happy pill, its just a huge weight thats been lifted from her shoulders, and when she forgets to take it, it shows the next day.
So dont look down on the drugs so much, for all you know, they can really really help.
My gf was diagnosed with some anxiety disorder, although you really didnt need a doctor to tell you that. She was constantly worrying about everything, even if she knew it was miniscule, and most of the time, she didnt even know WHY she was worrying. I had always tried to get her to go to the doctor about it, but the immediate response was "I'm not crazy" or "theyll give me drugs that will change me".
Eventually, someone with exactly her symptoms recommended asking the doctor for paxil. So she goes to the doctor, and he recommends it as well. It took her a week before she finally started taking it, and then another 2 weeks or so before it really started to kick in.
But they work. They work well. She doesnt worry about meaningless things anymore, only things that really matter. She says it isnt an artificial happy pill, its just a huge weight thats been lifted from her shoulders, and when she forgets to take it, it shows the next day.
So dont look down on the drugs so much, for all you know, they can really really help.
Three years ago I was prescribed Celexa. Three weeks after starting, I was driving to work. Late afternoon/early evening. Sun was out, I had the windows down & the radio up. I realized that I was happy - For no reason whatsoever. I don't remember EVER feeling that way before, where I had no real reason to be happy, I just was.
That was absolutely shocking, I didn't know it was possible to be happy for no other reason than a nice day.
spankyOO7
You don't have a damn clue what you're talking about.
Viper GTS
That was absolutely shocking, I didn't know it was possible to be happy for no other reason than a nice day.
spankyOO7
You don't have a damn clue what you're talking about.
Viper GTS
There have been several times in my life where I had lost the will to live with the problems I had day in and day out at school, work, home, friends, etc. It may not have been real depression, but if its any indication I dont ever want to feel real depression. Everyday, I hug my 2 younger sisters and my mom and am grateful that things are a little bit better now than they were back then.
Optimistic
I honestly would have given you a wonderful detailed reply, but after reading some of what was posted here, I cannot be bothered knowing that they will probably be slammed. Blame your fellow ATer's for their ignorance if you may. Now don't get me wrong, some of the posts were intelligent...others...er...were not, to say the least.
If you seriously believe someone is suffering from depression, encourage them to talk to their doctor first and foremost.
I have written numerous papers on psychiatric illness, including depression, for a psychiatrist I was doing research for. If you would like accurate information, please PM me and I would be more than willing to help.
(Yes, MrsSkoorb is actually having a bad day here! )
I honestly would have given you a wonderful detailed reply, but after reading some of what was posted here, I cannot be bothered knowing that they will probably be slammed. Blame your fellow ATer's for their ignorance if you may. Now don't get me wrong, some of the posts were intelligent...others...er...were not, to say the least.
If you seriously believe someone is suffering from depression, encourage them to talk to their doctor first and foremost.
I have written numerous papers on psychiatric illness, including depression, for a psychiatrist I was doing research for. If you would like accurate information, please PM me and I would be more than willing to help.
(Yes, MrsSkoorb is actually having a bad day here!
)
By my own diagnoses.....
I am usually depressed, based on clinical symptoms.
I also have low-level OCD and general anxiety disorder.
I don't understand what the big deal is.
amish
I am usually depressed, based on clinical symptoms.
I also have low-level OCD and general anxiety disorder.
I don't understand what the big deal is.
amish
There really isn't a big deal unless you are suicidal or someone serverely depressed or suffering from OCD bad enough to completely impact on their day to day living. Most psychiatric illnesses are treatable, either through medication or behavioral therapy. No one should have to suffer....
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