Poll: Democrat or Republican - The lesser of 2 evils ?

[jimmyhaha]

Poll: Democrat or Republican - The lesser of 2 evils ?

Also explain why u favor one over the other ...

Funny Article & PIC

 

[BDawg]

Because the Republicans try to force their Christian morals on the rest of the country.

 

[Ornery]

Libertarians match the GOP platform more than the Democrat one. Democrats are usually odd man out on the major issues. The GOP candidate has the best chance of being elected, so if you prefer the Libertarian ticket, you might as well vote Republican to get your issues passed:

AMERICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE SELECTOR:

• 
  1. ABORTION ISSUES: Which views on the issue of abortion would you prefer your candidate advocate?
  • 
    "Pro-Choice" Harry Browne, Gore
    Neither
    "Pro-Life" Bush
  2. MINORITY ISSUES: Would you prefer your candidate support or oppose such legislation as affirmative action?
  • 
    Oppose Bush, Harry Browne
    Neither
    Support Gore
  3. CAMPAIGN FINANCE: Would you prefer your candidate support or oppose campaign finance reform?
  • 
    Oppose Reform (Lift restrictions on contributions) Bush, Harry Browne, Gore
    Neither
    Support Reform (Abolish "softmoney" contributions, etc.)
  4. CRIME: Some candidates have outlined their approach to minimizing crime. Which approach do you prefer your candidate stress?
  • 
    Support "get tough" approach,e.g. longer prison sentences Bush
    Neither Harry Browne
    Support preventive approach, e.g. educational & recreational programs Gore
  5. DEFENSE SPENDING: Would you prefer your candidate advocate an increase or decrease in the defense spending budget?
  • 
    Support increase Bush, Harry Browne, Gore
    Neither
    Support decrease
  6. DRUG POLICY: Some presidential candidates support an increase in drug crime prosecution and penalties while some favor a decriminalization or complete legalization of what are currently drug crimes. What stance would you like your candidate to adopt?
  • 
    Support increased prosecution and penalties Bush, Gore
    Neither
    Support decriminalization Harry Browne
  7. GAY RIGHTS: Some candidates believe that sexual orientation is an unchangeable characteristic and support across the board equality under civil law for gay and lesbian Americans. On the other end of the spectrum, some believe that gay relationships are a destructive assault on the heterosexual, marriage-based family. What policies would you like your candidate to favor?
  • 
    Support legislative equality for homosexuals. Gore
    Neither
    Oppose special legislationconcerning homosexuality. Bush, Harry Browne
  8. EDUCATION: Some presidential candidates support school choice. Others see it as a separation of church and state issue. What position would you like your candidate to support?
  • 
    Favor School Choice Bush
    Neither Harry Browne
    Support tax dollars for public schools only Gore
  9. ENVIRONMENT: Which position regarding the environment would your ideal candidate advocate?
  • 
    Support the environment only after considering market and private property concerns. Bush
    Neither Harry Browne
    Support environmental protection legislation Gore
  10. EVOLUTION VS. CREATIONISM: Some presidential candidates favor the teaching of Creationism in public schools along evolution which is currently taught in science classes. What's your opinion?
  • 
    Support the situation as it is now: evolution only Gore
    Neither Harry Browne
    Support legislation including the teaching of Creationism Bush
  11. FOREIGN POLICY: Would you prefer your candidate embrace an non-interventionist or interventionist approach to foreign policy?
  • 
    Support non-interventionist Harry Browne
    Neither
    Support interventionist Bush, Gore
  12. GUN CONTROL: Would you prefer your candidate oppose or support gun control legislation?
  • 
    Oppose Bush, Harry Browne
    Neither
    Support Gore
  13. HEALTH CARE: Would you prefer your candidate support increased federal involvement in health care? Or would you prefer health care be an area outside governmental control?
  • 
    Support health care as primarily the responsibility of the individual Bush, Harry Browne
    Neither
    Support health care as primarily the responsibility of the government Gore
  14. MORAL ISSUES: Would you prefer your candidate favor federal, state and/or local legislation supporting "traditional values" such as advocating prayer in public schools, promoting teen-age sexual abstinence and restricting access to Internet pornography?
  • 
    Support legislation of "traditional values". Bush
    Neither Harry Browne
    Oppose legislation of "traditional values". Gore
  15. SOCIAL SECURITY: Would you prefer your candidate promise to preserve or reform (including dismantle) Social Security?
  • 
    Support reforming Bush, Harry Browne
    Neither
    Support preserving Gore
  16. TAX POLICY: Various candidates have promised to overhaul the federal income tax codes. They differ in how extreme the proposed changes would be.
  • 
    Support retaining current system Gore
    Neither
    Support reforming or abolishing Bush, Harry Browne
  17. TRADE ISSUES: Would you prefer your candidate be an advocate of free trade or trade controls like tariffs and embargoes?
  • 
    Support free-trade Bush, Harry Browne, Gore
    Neither
    Support trade controls

 

[Zebo]

Everyone is screwed because they don't abide by the most important issue:

"Regardless of increases or decreases, it is vitally important that federal spending and taxes are balanced. "

What this has done is encourage irresponsibility and lack of standing up to though issues by either party. They are the same. You sracth my back, 'I'll scratch yours. They money in politics sickens me.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Carbonyl
Everyone is screwed because they don't abide by the most important issue:

"Regardless of increases or decreases, it is vitally important that federal spending and taxes are balanced. "

What this has done is encourage irresponsibility and lack of standing up to though issues by either party. They are the same. You sracth my back, 'I'll scratch yours. They money in politics sickens me.

And as long as the bottom 1/2 can vote to pick the pockets of the upper 1/2, there will not be a balanced budget.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Carbonyl
Everyone is screwed because they don't abide by the most important issue:

"Regardless of increases or decreases, it is vitally important that federal spending and taxes are balanced. "

What this has done is encourage irresponsibility and lack of standing up to though issues by either party. They are the same. You sracth my back, 'I'll scratch yours. They money in politics sickens me.

And as long as the bottom 1/2 can vote to pick the pockets of the upper 1/2, there will not be a balanced budget.

If you think that's what is happening I feel sorry for you. Check how much of the federal budget gets funneled to the bottom 50%. It might surpise. The transfer of weath is decideingly one direction. Bottom up.


Whens the last time a republican has proposed elimination of the income tax? I hear it all the time on capital gains.

 

[orion7144]

Originally posted by: Carbonyl

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Carbonyl
Everyone is screwed because they don't abide by the most important issue:

"Regardless of increases or decreases, it is vitally important that federal spending and taxes are balanced. "

What this has done is encourage irresponsibility and lack of standing up to though issues by either party. They are the same. You sracth my back, 'I'll scratch yours. They money in politics sickens me.

And as long as the bottom 1/2 can vote to pick the pockets of the upper 1/2, there will not be a balanced budget.

If you think that's what is happening I feel sorry for you. Check how much of the federal budget gets funneled to the bottom 50%. It might surpise. The transfer of weath is decideingly one direction. Bottom up.


Whens the last time a republican has proposed elimination of the income tax? I hear it all the time on capital gains.

Ccapital gains is NOT just a rich persons tax cut. I am in the bottom rung of the tax bracket and this would benifit me greatly. I have been putting money away for many years all going into stocks. Now I can't afford to sell them cause it would kill me at tax time. If I was able to sell some right now I would. Even when I was laid off for a couple of months I would not touch it. I came close but luckily I found a job. But there are some things my family needs right now but I just can't afford to sell since for one it would put me in a higher tax bracket and two you still get taxed on the earnings twice.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Carbonyl

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Carbonyl
Everyone is screwed because they don't abide by the most important issue:

"Regardless of increases or decreases, it is vitally important that federal spending and taxes are balanced. "

What this has done is encourage irresponsibility and lack of standing up to though issues by either party. They are the same. You sracth my back, 'I'll scratch yours. They money in politics sickens me.

And as long as the bottom 1/2 can vote to pick the pockets of the upper 1/2, there will not be a balanced budget.

If you think that's what is happening I feel sorry for you. Check how much of the federal budget gets funneled to the bottom 50%. It might surpise. The transfer of weath is decideingly one direction. Bottom up.


Whens the last time a republican has proposed elimination of the income tax? I hear it all the time on capital gains.

Well given the amount I pay in, I am not getting much on the return.

 

[Zebo]

Now I can't afford to sell them cause it would kill me at tax time

This reminds me fo a disscussion I once had with Amused.

Say the tax rate was 50% on anything above $100,000 annual income and only 5% on income 0-100K.

You are offered two jobs, one that pays 250K, the other pays 80K. Which can you "afford" to take?

 

[Zebo]

"Well given the amount I pay in, I am not getting much on the return."


Welcome to the club. You are middle class, you have no lobbiest in washington working to give you a sweet contract/free land or tax break, you/we/me are too busy working/distracted to read the 55,000 page tax code, so we pay more as a percentage and get little in return.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Carbonyl
"Well given the amount I pay in, I am not getting much on the return."


Welcome to the club. You are middle class, you have no lobbiest in washington working to give you a sweet contract/free land or tax break, you/we/me are too busy working/distracted to read the 55,000 page tax code, so we pay more as a percentage and get little in return.

We will have to disagree. We do agree however that the tax code needs to be completely reworked.

 

[konichiwa]

The problem is not democrats and republicans, it's the polarized, two-party system that limits voters choices to the lesser of two evils instead of the party they actually want to vote for.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: konichiwa
The problem is not democrats and republicans, it's the polarized, two-party system that limits voters choices to the lesser of two evils instead of the party they actually want to vote for.

I will take the problems of a 2 party system over the chaotic swings of a 5 party system.
A 3 or more party system all but guarantees tyrany of the minority.

 

[jaeger66]

The Selector picked Nader for me??? I don't think he'll be getting my vote.

1. Nader, Ralph - Green Party (100%) Click here for info
2. Gephardt, Cong. Dick, MO - Democrat (93%) Click here for info
3. Leahy, Patrick Senator, Vermont - Democrat (87%) Click here for info
4. Jackson, Cong. Jesse Jr., IL - Democrat (86%) Click here for info
5. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (82%) Click here for info
6. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (80%) Click here for info
7. Feingold, Senator Russ, WI - Democrat (79%) Click here for info
8. Kaptur, Cong. Marcy, OH - Democrat (77%) Click here for info
9. Kucinich, Cong. Dennis, OH - Democrat (75%) Click here for info
10. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (75%) Click here for info
11. Daschle, Senate Minority Leader Tom, SD - Democrat (75%) Click here for info
12. Socialist Candidate (70%) Click here for info
13. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (63%) Click here for info
14. Clinton, Senator Hillary Rodham, NY - Democrat (63%) Click here for info
15. Gore, Former Vice-President Al - Democrat (62%) Click here for info
16. Biden, Senator Joe, DE - Democrat (61%) Click here for info
17. Feinstein, Senator Dianne, CA - Democrat (61%) Click here for info
18. Graham, Senator Bob, FL - Democrat (60%) Click here for info
19. Dodd, Senator Chris, CT - Democrat (58%) Click here for info
20. Lieberman Senator Joe CT - Democrat (56%) Click here for info
21. Bradley, Former Senator Bill NJ - Democrat (52%) Click here for info
22. Bayh, Sentator Evan, IN - Democrat (51%) Click here for info
23. Browne, Harry - Libertarian (43%) Click here for info
24. Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol IL - Democrat (35%) Click here for info
25. McCain, Sentator John, AZ- Republican (23%) Click here for info
26. Hart, Former Sentator Gary, CO - Democrat (20%) Click here for info
27. Hagelin, John - Natural Law (16%) Click here for info
28. Phillips, Howard - Constitution (11%) Click here for info
29. Vilsack, Governor. Tom IA - Democrat (8%) Click here for info
30. Buchanan, Patrick J. ? Reform/Republican (6%) Click here for info
31. Bush, George W. - US President (1%) Click here for info
32. LaRouche, Lyndon H. Jr. - Democrat (0%) Click here for info
33. Clark, Retired Army General Wesley K "Wes" Arkansas - Democrat (0%) Click here for info

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Delete #4 and #9 and that'd probably come close to a "real" list i'd draw up of potential candidates Pat Buttcannon can suck it - and same with Feinstein

It'd probably be McCain ahead of Browne though but I think if a strong(not wacko) Libertarian candidate would stand up - he/she might get my support.

1. Bush, George W. - US President (100%)
2. Browne, Harry - Libertarian (87%)
3. McCain, Sentator John, AZ- Republican (65%)
4. Buchanan, Patrick J. ? Reform/Republican (63%)
5. Phillips, Howard - Constitution (51%)
6. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (51%)
7. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (47%)
8. Biden, Senator Joe, DE - Democrat (47%)
9. Feinstein, Senator Dianne, CA - Democrat (43%)
10. Gephardt, Cong. Dick, MO - Democrat (42%)
11. Lieberman Senator Joe CT - Democrat (41%)


CkG

 

[Ferocious]

Democrats generally suck....but they are indeed the lesser of two evils IMO.

Republicans in general are just too anti- middle class.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Ferocious
Democrats generally suck....but they are indeed the lesser of two evils IMO.

Republicans in general are just too anti- middle class.

I think I have asked this before, but how are republicans anti middle class?

 

[orion7144]

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2. Gephardt, Cong. Dick, MO - Democrat (82%) Click here for info
3. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (77%) Click here for info
4. Clinton, Senator Hillary Rodham, NY - Democrat (77%) Click here for info
5. Lieberman Senator Joe CT - Democrat (71%) Click here for info
6. Browne, Harry - Libertarian (66%) Click here for info
7. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (65%) Click here for info
8. Bayh, Sentator Evan, IN - Democrat (64%) Click here for info
9. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (58%) Click here for info
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[Gonad the Barbarian]

I have to say Democrats are the lesser of the two evils because Republicans seem to campaign on one thing and then do something entirely different a whole lot more than the Democrats do.

1. Browne, Harry - Libertarian (100%) Click here for info
2. Nader, Ralph - Green Party (91%) Click here for info
3. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (89%) Click here for info
4. Feingold, Senator Russ, WI - Democrat (88%) Click here for info
5. Leahy, Patrick Senator, Vermont - Democrat (79%) Click here for info
6. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (76%) Click here for info
7. Gephardt, Cong. Dick, MO - Democrat (74%) Click here for info
8. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (68%) Click here for info
9. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (65%) Click here for info
10. Socialist Candidate (63%) Click here for info
11. Jackson, Cong. Jesse Jr., IL - Democrat (55%) Click here for info
12. Bush, George W. - US President (54%) Click here for info
13. Lieberman Senator Joe CT - Democrat (50%) Click here for info
14. Kucinich, Cong. Dennis, OH - Democrat (50%) Click here for info
15. Phillips, Howard - Constitution (47%) Click here for info
16. Biden, Senator Joe, DE - Democrat (47%) Click here for info
17. Kaptur, Cong. Marcy, OH - Democrat (46%) Click here for info
18. Feinstein, Senator Dianne, CA - Democrat (42%) Click here for info
19. Buchanan, Patrick J. ? Reform/Republican (41%) Click here for info
20. Graham, Senator Bob, FL - Democrat (39%) Click here for info
21. Hagelin, John - Natural Law (37%) Click here for info
22. Bradley, Former Senator Bill NJ - Democrat (36%) Click here for info
23. McCain, Sentator John, AZ- Republican (32%) Click here for info
24. Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol IL - Democrat (25%) Click here for info
25. Vilsack, Governor. Tom IA - Democrat (17%) Click here for info
26. Hart, Former Sentator Gary, CO - Democrat (17%) Click here for info
27. LaRouche, Lyndon H. Jr. - Democrat (0%) Click here for info
28. Clark, Retired Army General Wesley K "Wes" Arkansas - Democrat (0%) Click here for info

 

[Zebo]

Funny thing is I would vote for Pat 1st.

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2. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (93%) Click here for info
3. Clinton, Senator Hillary Rodham, NY - Democrat (82%) Click here for info
4. Gephardt, Cong. Dick, MO - Democrat (79%) Click here for info
5. Jackson, Cong. Jesse Jr., IL - Democrat (77%) Click here for info
6. Socialist Candidate (75%) Click here for info
7. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (74%) Click here for info
8. Browne, Harry - Libertarian (73%) Click here for info
9. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (72%) Click here for info
10. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (71%) Click here for info
11. Kucinich, Cong. Dennis, OH - Democrat (67%) Click here for info
12. Daschle, Senate Minority Leader Tom, SD - Democrat (66%) Click here for info
13. Lieberman Senator Joe CT - Democrat (63%) Click here for info
14. Feingold, Senator Russ, WI - Democrat (63%) Click here for info
15. Bayh, Sentator Evan, IN - Democrat (62%) Click here for info
16. Biden, Senator Joe, DE - Democrat (62%) Click here for info
17. Bush, George W. - US President (59%) Click here for info
18. Leahy, Patrick Senator, Vermont - Democrat (58%) Click here for info
19. Feinstein, Senator Dianne, CA - Democrat (53%) Click here for info
20. Bradley, Former Senator Bill NJ - Democrat (53%) Click here for info
21. Dodd, Senator Chris, CT - Democrat (50%) Click here for info
22. Buchanan, Patrick J. ? Reform/Republican (50%) Click here for info
23. Kaptur, Cong. Marcy, OH - Democrat (50%) Click here for info
24. Gore, Former Vice-President Al - Democrat (46%) Click here for info
25. Graham, Senator Bob, FL - Democrat (45%) Click here for info
26. McCain, Sentator John, AZ- Republican (38%) Click here for info
27. Phillips, Howard - Constitution (32%) Click here for info
28. Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol IL - Democrat (29%) Click here for info
29. Hagelin, John - Natural Law (18%) Click here for info
30. Vilsack, Governor. Tom IA - Democrat (13%) Click here for info
31. Hart, Former Sentator Gary, CO - Democrat (7%) Click here for info
32. LaRouche, Lyndon H. Jr. - Democrat (0%) Click here for info
33. Clark, Retired Army General Wesley K "Wes" Arkansas - Democrat (0%) Click here for info

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Ferocious
Democrats generally suck....but they are indeed the lesser of two evils IMO.

Republicans in general are just too anti- middle class.

I think I have asked this before, but how are republicans anti middle class?

Here you go

There are hundreds of google links>>> "Republicans anti- middle class"

 

[Martin]

democrats would be (in general) the lesser of two evils IMO. The republicans love legislating personal behaviour.....I can't stand that.

 

[Zebo]

What I like to know is how this poll can have me at;

Socialist Candidate (75%) and Browne, Harry - Libertarian (73%). Seems very inconsistant..

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Originally posted by: Carbonyl

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Ferocious
Democrats generally suck....but they are indeed the lesser of two evils IMO.

Republicans in general are just too anti- middle class.

I think I have asked this before, but how are republicans anti middle class?

Here you go

There are hundreds of google links>>> "Republicans anti- middle class"

You really ought to link to another one then. I didn't read that whole thing because the first example regarding the inheritence tax is way off. This actually hurts middle-class more than anyone else, they are the ones who have to sell off family businesses in many instances because they can't afford to inherit them. And guess who then buys up those businesses? Upper-class people who are already rich, and now they can make even more money.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Carbonyl

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Ferocious
Democrats generally suck....but they are indeed the lesser of two evils IMO.

Republicans in general are just too anti- middle class.

I think I have asked this before, but how are republicans anti middle class?

Here you go

There are hundreds of google links>>> "Republicans anti- middle class"

I am sure some them might even have resonable information. I wonder what google has to say about "democrats anti- middle class"


FWIW

google yields
99,000 hits for "democrats anti- middle class"
and 69,000 hits for "Republicans anti- middle class"