Poll: Clinton leads Trump by double digits

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Oh NO not THE LIST!

Where will the inhumanity end?

ah do declare.... whatever shall you do?

 

[Jhhnn]

That assumes that neither Obama nor Garland withdraws the nomination. It will by then have been the longest vacancy in the supreme court (depending on your definition of a vacancy). So, it would be reasonable for either one of them to give up and have someone else nominated before Clinton has a chance.

Ridiculous. Repubs stated that they won't consider any Obama nominee. Period. They might reverse course if Obama offered up a right wing toady but that won't happen, either.

 

[emperus]

How do you think I misused it? We will always have the poor. There will always be a need that needs to be met.

I'm not sure why you even brought that verse up. But Biblical scholars believe Jesus was referring to Deuteronomy 15:1-11. This is the end of that verse.

There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your fellow Israelites who are poor and needy in your land.

We are commanded to help the poor, absolutely! How is forcing a person to "help the poor" via the threat of armed officers helping us fulfill these commands? And you're not helping the poor with the Democrat agenda anyway. You didn't answer my question about the disintegration of the black family. It isn't working.

Threat of Armed officers? Huh? But progressive tax policies don't help the poor? Universal Health care doesn't help the poor? Social Security? Medicaid? What about just not sending soldiers (who are mainly poor) to fight and die in war? Btw, I answered your question about my faith. I find it peculiar you are somehow diverging to the "black family". This is still a Trump v. Hilary thread. Why don't you answer my initial question which spawned this.

God has judged nations for promoting evil which is what your candidate does by supporting abortion. Remember Moloch?

What makes you think I think my sins are somehow better than others? If a person has an abortion there is forgiveness with repentance just like there is for any other sin.

As a nation if we support evil we will pay the price, eventually. We ought not support murder and that is how I view it. That doesn't mean we outlaw all sins, not the point, but 3000 a day are being wiped out for the most part out of convenience. Pure evil.

But this is exactly what you are doing. You are judging abortion as the worst sin hence making it your single issue and overlooking how Nasty of an individual Trump is. You overlook issues like war, poverty, etc. etc. to be a single issue voter on abortion.

I am curious how you think I "misquoted" the "you will always have the poor" text. What point do you think I was making?

As I said above I'm not sure why you mentioned it at all.

 

[Victorian Gray]

reduced to tweeting polls that only show him losing by a couple of points

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/743852552257626112

 

[emperus]

reduced to tweeting polls that only show him losing by a couple of points

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/743852552257626112

Gotta admit, this election has been amazing so far.. Though not sure that's what we should be looking for in our elections.

 

[TeeJay1952]

Hill will appoint Obama to SCOTUS. Not Barry, Michelle.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Maybe today will be the day he starts acting "Presidential"....maybe...

 

[cubby1223]

Clinton leading trump by double digits???

I was scolded by every Bernie Bros that only Bernie could beat Trump, because all the polls said Trump beats out Hillary... I was repeatedly called the dumb conservative for not following the then current polls which all enlightened progressives know are scientifically proven facts.

 

[buckshot24]

I'm not sure why you even brought that verse up. But Biblical scholars believe Jesus was referring to Deuteronomy 15:1-11. This is the end of that verse.

You weren't sure why I brought it up but you were sure I misquoted it! Don't you think that was a bit unfair on your part?

Threat of Armed officers?

Don't pay your taxes and eventually you're going to meet some armed officers who want to take you somewhere.

But progressive tax policies don't help the poor?

Not when you take the money from the top and give it to those on the bottom to further help enslave them to rely on the government teat.

Universal Health care doesn't help the poor?

We don't have that and it is debatable if it would help the poor. It isn't as if people are dying in the streets as it is.

Social Security?

Not all policies are as bad as others, I don't have a major problem with the principle behind SS.

Medicaid?

When you make people dependent on these programs you are enslaving them. We could deal with the problem in other ways.

What about just not sending soldiers (who are mainly poor) to fight and die in war?

Hillary isn't a good choice for you then. Don't act like Hillary is a dove, she voted for the last two wars.

Btw, I answered your question about my faith. I find it peculiar you are somehow diverging to the "black family". This is still a Trump v. Hilary thread. Why don't you answer my initial question which spawned this.

The black family has been decimated by your "help" and you act as if it is a divergence. This goes to the heart of the matter, your help isn't helping.

I do notice that you use your view of your faith to argue for these social programs but not when it comes to abortion. We aren't a Christian nation, isn't that what you said? Isn't that a bit hypocritical?

Trump isn't a perfect man but I will take him everyday over Hillary based upon this issue and others. I think he would be a better president that Hillary. My answer should have been readily apparent by now but I guess I had to spell it out.

But this is exactly what you are doing. You are judging abortion as the worst sin hence making it your single issue and overlooking how Nasty of an individual Trump is. You overlook issues like war, poverty, etc. etc. to be a single issue voter on abortion.

It isn't only about "sin" it is about the deliberate murder of the most helpless. If you can't see the difference then I don't know what else to say. I'm not a single issue voter either. It is the most important thing but not the only thing.

Do you think there is a difference between cutting the head off of an infant vs lying about something? If so then please quit with this ridiculous argument.

You'd want me to take a guy who talks a bit rougher but will nominate judges who don't agree with Roe V Wade vs a more polished deliberate person who will do everything in her power to see that 3000 are mudered every single day. Sorry, but no.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Clinton leading trump by double digits???

I was scolded by every Bernie Bros that only Bernie could beat Trump, because all the polls said Trump beats out Hillary... I was repeatedly called the dumb conservative for not following the then current polls which all enlightened progressives know are scientifically proven facts.

technically, at one point they could have been right, and I think if bernie was in hillary's position, he'd be leading by even more. drumpf just keeps being drumpf and that's enough to seal a win for nearly anyone running against him

 

[jackstar7]

You weren't sure why I brought it up but you were sure I misquoted it! Don't you think that was a bit unfair on your part?
Don't pay your taxes and eventually you're going to meet some armed officers who want to take you somewhere.
Not when you take the money from the top and give it to those on the bottom to further help enslave them to rely on the government teat.
We don't have that and it is debatable if it would help the poor. It isn't as if people are dying in the streets as it is.
Not all policies are as bad as others, I don't have a major problem with the principle behind SS.
When you make people dependent on these programs you are enslaving them. We could deal with the problem in other ways.
Hillary isn't a good choice for you then. Don't act like Hillary is a dove, she voted for the last two wars.
The black family has been decimated by your "help" and you act as if it is a divergence. This goes to the heart of the matter, your help isn't helping.

I do notice that you use your view of your faith to argue for these social programs but not when it comes to abortion. We aren't a Christian nation, isn't that what you said? Isn't that a bit hypocritical?

Trump isn't a perfect man but I will take him everyday over Hillary based upon this issue and others. I think he would be a better president that Hillary. My answer should have been readily apparent by now but I guess I had to spell it out.
It isn't only about "sin" it is about the deliberate murder of the most helpless. If you can't see the difference then I don't know what else to say. I'm not a single issue voter either. It is the most important thing but not the only thing.

Do you think there is a difference between cutting the head off of an infant vs lying about something? If so then please quit with this ridiculous argument.

You'd want me to take a guy who talks a bit rougher but will nominate judges who don't agree with Roe V Wade vs a more polished deliberate person who will do everything in her power to see that 3000 are mudered every single day. Sorry, but no.

So emotional.

 

[Vic]

technically, at one point they could have been right, and I think if bernie was in hillary's position, he'd be leading by even more. drumpf just keeps being drumpf and that's enough to seal a win for nearly anyone running against him

Trump's message is very polarizing. He relies on exclusion and an "Us vs Them" mentality. His supporters love it, but that was never going to reach across the aisle, much less even the separate factions within the Republican party.
The irony is that the Republicans had a candidate this year who not only could have won against Hillary or Bernie, but could have made the GOP the dominant party for decades. But Trump killed that..

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Trump's message is very polarizing. He relies on exclusion and an "Us vs Them" mentality. That was never going to reach across the aisle, much less even the separate factions within the Republican party.
The irony is that the Republicans had a candidate this year who not only could have won against Hillary or Bernie, but could have made the GOP the dominant party for decades. But Trump killed that..

who was that? I'm really at a loss as to anyone that was running who fit that description.

 

[Vic]

who was that? I'm really at a loss as to anyone that was running who fit that description.

Rubio. He was going to be the GOP's Hispanic Obama.

 

[cubby1223]

Trump's message is very polarizing. He relies on exclusion and an "Us vs Them" mentality. His supporters love it, but that was never going to reach across the aisle, much less even the separate factions within the Republican party.
The irony is that the Republicans had a candidate this year who not only could have won against Hillary or Bernie, but could have made the GOP the dominant party for decades. But Trump killed that..

Democrats rely on the same mentality. The only difference is you feel a part of the "Us", and the "Them" are not worth addressing anyways so who cares?

 

[emperus]

You weren't sure why I brought it up but you were sure I misquoted it! Don't you think that was a bit unfair on your part?

I was trying to be nice and let you off the hook. In the context of what you wrote you did misquote it as the meaning is contrary to your point and the misquote seems consistant with the rest of your views expressed in this thread (It isn't as if people are dying in the streets as it is). That verse is also commonly misquoted by republicans that are Christians. And if you didn't misquote it, what was the purpose of mentioning it there? And you could have easily solved this by just explaining why you brought it up.

As to the rest, it seems our theologies are very different. We have really differing views on sin and what we are called to do as Christians.

 

[emperus]

Rubio. He was going to be the GOP's Hispanic Obama.

Why? Because he is Hispanic and Obama is black and besides their races they are basically the same?

 

[buckshot24]

I was trying to be nice and let you off the hook. In the context of what you wrote you did misquote it as the meaning is contrary to your point and the misquote seems consistant with the rest of your views expressed in this thread (It isn't as if people are dying in the streets as it is). That verse is also commonly misquoted by republicans that are Christians. And if you didn't misquote it, what was the purpose of mentioning it there? And you could have easily solved this by just explaining why you brought it up.

You didn't understand my point but you know it is contrary to it? If you know what my point is, and it is wrong, then please explain yourself. Do you think I was saying we could ignore the poor because of this verse? If so that is simply preposterous. That wasn't my point at all and reveals your own biases more than anything I believe.

I told you why I brought it up but you won't believe me. Not very charitable of you. There isn't any huge point other than to say that there will always be poor that need help and that Christians are called to help them.

As to the rest, it seems our theologies are very different. We have really differing views on sin and what we are called to do as Christians.

Yes, you think it should be done at the behest of armed policemen and I think we should freely do it because we love God.

 

[buckshot24]

Rubio. He was going to be the GOP's Hispanic Obama.

He kind of fell apart, didn't he?

 

[buckshot24]

So emotional.

So what?

 

[Thump553]

About the only good things Trump has done this election cycle is show Rubio is an empty suit phony with no attributes other than raw ambition and by aptly namely low-energy Jeb.

A forty year dynasty built upon a Rubio presidency? Delusional fantasy.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

About the only good things Trump has done this election cycle is show Rubio is an empty suit phony with no attributes other than raw ambition and by aptly namely low-energy Jeb.

A forty year dynasty built upon a Rubio presidency? Delusional fantasy.

He did briefly bring to light the sickening power of superpacs. But that's yesterday's news. drumpf did do that.

 

[jackstar7]

So what?

Well arguments based in emotion are not very persuasive. If you want to convince people of your way of thinking, it is better to appeal to reason.

 

[Vic]

Why? Because he is Hispanic and Obama is black and besides their races they are basically the same?

No, because they're both young and charismatic and have a unifying vision of the future. People really do prefer having someone to vote for rather than against.

 

[Jhhnn]

Rubio. He was going to be the GOP's Hispanic Obama.

Yeh, but he wasn't ready for prime time. Not nearly. Certainly not against a shrewd judge of human nature like Trump, a true social predator. In the Repub base, he saw people who craved somebody to believe in & knew just how to push their buttons so that they'd believe in him. It's what he does. All the people who invested in his casinos, Trump Baja pre-construction deals & Trump U all believed in Donald Trump. For those susceptible to his pitch, his persona, it's some kind of mystical experience.