1997-2003 Corvette Twin Turbo LS1, ZO6 - 427 CID 725 BHP / 650 lbs-ft of torque
Originally posted by: Howard
M3, assuming I had more money to install a turbo kit.
SCCA is pretty vague. What classes are you referring too exactly? For some reason I had those small parking lot autocross courses in mind. When I said "road courses," I was referring to Watkins Glen, Laguna Seca, etc, etc.. In any event, a properly driven Z06 will beat a properly driven M3 any day of the week.Originally posted by: Rent
Originally posted by: CFster
Not the slightest clue what you're talking about. You're getting road racing and autocrossing mixed up dude. I believe Watkings Glen is something like 3.3 miles around, and my local track (Limerock), is 1.3 miles around. Funny, Limerock had enough room for the 700hp Trans Am cars a few weeks ago... And I've seen a lot of Corvettes spanked by their share of bimmers around here, you can be sure of that.Originally posted by: KnightBreedThat's funny because a Z06 will beat an M3 around any road course. You don't see Z06's at SCCA events because its wide track makes it difficult to flick around the tight corners. That, and it has way too much power for those tiny ass courses.Originally posted by: CFster Buwahahahah - yeah, American pig iron compared to the finest sedan in the world. We won't go into GM's outstanding track record as far as reliability. I've got CD's (for work) full of recalls and TSBs for those things (Corvettes included). Doesn't matter if they're in the same category or not - the BMW wins. There's a reason why the M3 is called the best handling car in the world. There's more to handling than skidpad and slalom figures. There's BALANCE and refinement. Funny, I spend a lot of time at the SCCA races and see a lot more BMW's out there than Corvettes on the track. And the Viper is like the Corvette squared - goes like a bastard down the straights, but handles like a truck. All kinds of grip, then snap oversteer. Face it, the Corvette has been and always will be a muscle car. That's fine if you're a kid - but I want more when I grow older.
I've seen my fair share of M3s spanked. If its a drivers race, espically on AutoX, the Vette will win, pending drivers have equal skill.
Anyways, I'd take a Z06 in a heartbeat. No questions asked.
Doesn't the SCCA have all kinds of different races and a whole bunch of separate classes?Originally posted by: CFster
Not the slightest clue what you're talking about. You're getting road racing and autocrossing mixed up dude.
I believe Watkings Glen is something like 3.3 miles around, and my local track (Limerock), is 1.3 miles around.
Funny, Limerock had enough room for the 700hp Trans Am cars a few weeks ago...
And I've seen a lot of Corvettes spanked by their share of bimmers around here, you can be sure of that.
The BMW 850CSi is a detuned version of the M8 which has never been produced and remained a prototype only. The M8 should have been built in a consequently lightweight manner in order to be a 'Ferrari-Killer'. The specially developed 550 hp engine has never been used except in the prototype - of which only one exists. But with the support of McLaren the M8 engine was transformed into the power plant of the McLaren F1 super sports car. At the time of development of the M8 there was virtually no market for such a car, so the BMW manager cancelled the project.
The M8-Prototype is perhaps the best-kept secret of BMW. Absolutely no one must see it or can get information, by order from the general manager himself. Questions from motorsport magazines remain unanswered as well. The car is locked away in the so-called Giftschrank, which could be translated as 'poison-storage'. According to BMW it is hidden behind lots of boxes anyway and will be destroyed in the near future as the 8 series doesn't exist any more and neither a successor.
The Prototype has never been road safe (even the headlights were missing as you can see in the picture) and was only loosely patched together, which is the reason why it is not presented in their museum. It's not even good for that ...says BMW.
Yes, the papers of an 850CSi say, it's an M8, but that's not of much use if you know what it could have been. What the S70 engine is capable of speaks for itself. See the world record run of the McLaren F1. The guys at McLaren say they could get 1000 hp at 9500 or 10000 rpm from the engine.
Originally posted by: agnitrate
Originally posted by: freebee
zo6 isnt 40 grand.
Yeah, Corvette is 40k base. I think Z06 base is like 52k.
-silver