Originally posted by: fivespeed5
that is actually one bad thing about the iPod, it can't double as a usb drive. The iPod Mini however can I believe, but doesn't use standard usb cables. Does the iRiver?
Yes. It's something I'm adamant about having (I sort of see it as an affront to buy what is basically a hard drive and have the company smugly say "nuh uh! no hdd for you! Ha!"), but am just as adamant about not paying $450 for a USB hdd with an lcd screen & mp3 decoder.. and as such, I don't have an mp3 player or portable hdd yet

If I were uberrich though, I'd buy the iriver in a heartbeat and be happy as a pig in sh!t with it

I've done a lot of research into them and decided that it's the one I want. Problem is I could get a used damn notebook for what the iriver costs and get a lot more functionality, at the cost of battery life.
Originally posted by: loki8481
that is actually one bad thing about the iPod, it can't double as a usb drive. The iPod Mini however can I believe, but doesn't use standard usb cables. Does the iRiver?
you sure about that? I've never had a problem using my 2nd Gen iPod as a portable hard drive.
Some don't allow you to store files at all, and some allow you to store files ONLY after installing the proprietary software on the pc you're hooking it up to... A precious few actually follow the universal mass storage standard, which is pretty much plug & play. If I have to give a friend ad-aware or a codec or something, I don't want to dig out a CD to install the software on their computer first to read my portable hdd - especially since I could buy a damn portable usb hdd for under $100. This is a HUGE peeve of mine with the companies that make these thigns. They're already bending over the customer & slathering their rear with vaseline... the LEAST they could do is allow them to use their portable hdd as... *GASP* a portable hdd! the horror!!! Honestly I'm not sure if the Ipod is useable as such, and for the price it damn well better be - but it's still an apple, has no FM tuner, and sh!t battery life.
Edited for bad drunken grammar