Poll: 4 in 10 think there should be non-binary gender options on forms

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

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Poll: 4 in 10 think there should be non-binary gender options on forms

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/201...-gender-options-on-forms/4671576786852/?sl=18

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https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/201...-gender-options-on-forms/4671576786852/?sl=18

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/201...-gender-options-on-forms/4671576786852/?sl=18

Dec. 19 (UPI) -- Forty-two percent of Americans said online profiles and other forms should offer non-binary gender options, a Pew Research Center poll indicates.

I don't know or really care about why others do or don't. My reason is privacy. The vast majority of forms and websites simply do not need to know. I only enter that kind of information on financial, government or medical forms. Shopping sites have no reason for it.

 

[IronWing]

I agree, if the information requested is not necessary to the purported purpose of a form, leave it out. If the party that created the form has an issue with this, walk away from the transaction.

 

[nakedfrog]

I use "prefer not to say" when it's an option, which is fairly often.
I suppose it depends on the level of data accuracy they're after.

 

[Kaido]

In light of how often things have been changing recently, would it be offensive to change the question to "biological" sex instead? So have 3 options:

1. Biological male
2. Biological female
3. Prefer not to say

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

It would be better if the field wasn't there at all. Nor the 'Salutations' field.

 

[OccamsToothbrush]

You're either male, female or pretending to be something you're not. Why not have all the fields that way? It's possible there are white people who self-identify and pretend to be Asian or 50-year old's having a mid-life crisis who pretend to be 19. If you can change your gender simply by claiming to be something different you should be able to change your race, age, income and education the same way.

 

[HomerJS]

How do you market tampons to a non-binary gender?

Forms need to say sex

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

"You're either male, female or pretending to be something you're not."

^^^ Perhaps there should be a box to select ' Insolent, Judgemental Moron'?


"How do you market tampons to a non-binary gender?"

Why should sites 'market (aka Spam)' stuff at all? Why can't a single account for a household buy all sorts of things?

 

[nakedfrog]

In light of how often things have been changing recently, would it be offensive to change the question to "biological" sex instead? So have 3 options:

1. Biological male
2. Biological female
3. Prefer not to say

How are you defining "biological"? What is the end goal here? Is it more useful to track what someone popped out of the womb with, or how they actually function in society?

 

[OccamsToothbrush]

"You're either male, female or pretending to be something you're not."

^^^ Perhaps there should be a box to select ' Insolent, Judgemental Moron'?

There can be in your world. It can be on the line right under "clueless, the world revolves around however I'm feeling today snowflake" and right above "near-sighted sexually ambiguous water-breathing Native American wombat with 3 penises" among the 42,921,723,045,409,666,117 possible options so that nobody is left without a choice that perfectly describes how they view themselves.

 

[Platypus]

There can be in your world. It can be on the line right under "clueless, the world revolves around however I'm feeling today snowflake" and right above "near-sighted sexually ambiguous water-breathing Native American wombat with 3 penises" among the 42,921,723,045,409,666,117 possible options so that nobody is left without a choice that perfectly describes how they view themselves.

For someone tossing around the term "snowflake," you seem awfully bothered by something that has no meaningful impact on you whatsoever. Perhaps you should reflect on why you're so triggered by things that aren't meant for you?

 

[zinfamous]

You don't really have to answer this for the most part. All of it is data mining. You can maybe look at it as overall beneficial: used in demographic data for all sorts of purposes: public policy, public health, funding base, etc...or pretty nefarious: also demographic data used by actuaries to feed corporations pinpoint information into exactly how to "screw you over" in new, very specific ways!

I find it harder and harder to ever separate the two overall categories of use for this data: data scientists all over the world are just contracted to mine this shit, wherever available, and this data is purchased at a premium because it is infinitely valuable to the companies that want to know your habits, and they run all of this through R or whatever, daily, return the results, ....and we're all "getting screwed," basically. ....you barely have to fill out any forms, now. You're actively volunteering the same information with each digital product you purchase and use.

 

[Kaido]

How are you defining "biological"? What is the end goal here? Is it more useful to track what someone popped out of the womb with, or how they actually function in society?

I would say primarily from a medical standpoint, especially for certain medicinal drugs that are designed for different genders.

 

[HomerJS]

"You're either male, female or pretending to be something you're not."

^^^ Perhaps there should be a box to select ' Insolent, Judgemental Moron'?


"How do you market tampons to a non-binary gender?"

Why should sites 'market (aka Spam)' stuff at all? Why can't a single account for a household buy all sorts of things?

If you are a company why waste money marketing tampons to humans with penises.

 

[nakedfrog]

I would say primarily from a medical standpoint, especially for certain medicinal drugs that are designed for different genders.

That's maybe not an especially helpful definition, depending on what the drug's mechanism is, and whether it's dependent on an estrogen-based or testosterone-based interaction sort of thing.

 

[whm1974]

You're either male, female or pretending to be something you're not. Why not have all the fields that way? It's possible there are white people who self-identify and pretend to be Asian or 50-year old's having a mid-life crisis who pretend to be 19. If you can change your gender simply by claiming to be something different you should be able to change your race, age, income and education the same way.

I agree and personally I think that Transsexual people are really weird and need help. I wonder just how many "Transsexuals" only believe that they are and not actually are?

 

[BoomerD]

In light of how often things have been changing recently, would it be offensive to change the question to "biological" sex instead? So have 3 options:

1. Biological male
2. Biological female
3. Prefer not to say

You're either male, female or pretending to be something you're not. Why not have all the fields that way? It's possible there are white people who self-identify and pretend to be Asian or 50-year old's having a mid-life crisis who pretend to be 19. If you can change your gender simply by claiming to be something different you should be able to change your race, age, income and education the same way.

You're born with a penis or you're born with a vagina. It's VERY rare to be born with both...or neither.

 

[nakedfrog]

I agree and personally I think that Transsexual people are really weird and need help. I wonder just how many "Transsexuals" only believe that they are and not actually are?

That's okay, I think you're really weird and need help too. Also, "transsexuals" is not the preferred nomenclature, dude.

 

[Homerboy]

I agree and personally I think that Transsexual people are really weird and need help. I wonder just how many "Transsexuals" only believe that they are and not actually are?

what?

 

[balloonshark]

It's almost 2020 and it's unbelievable how many people are so close-minded and think in terms of black and white only. In my experience there is always a grey area. If someone is doing something like or believe in and their not hurting anyone then I say live and let live. It's not like they have a choice unlike those who chose to be a assholes by dictating other lives.

 

[highland145]

If you are a company why waste money marketing tampons to humans with penises.

Cause the aclu wants menstrual justice.

ACLU demands tampons in men's bathrooms for 'menstrual justice' - LifeSite

The initiative is ostensibly to prevent discrimination against 'every person who menstruates.'

www.lifesitenews.com

 

[gill77]

Cause the aclu wants menstrual justice.

ACLU demands tampons in men's bathrooms for 'menstrual justice' - LifeSite

The initiative is ostensibly to prevent discrimination against 'every person who menstruates.'

www.lifesitenews.com

I guess society is going to hell in a hand-basket. At one time all we had to worry about was getting drafted and having your dead body rot away in the jungles of Vietnam.

Now we have some real serious issues to get in each other's face about.

 

[Dr. Detroit]

It's Ma'am

It's a mental health problem.

Sex Reassignment Doesn’t Work. Here Is the Evidence.

Sex “reassignment” doesn’t work. It’s impossible to “reassign” someone’s sex physically, and attempting to do so doesn’t produce good outcomes psychosocially.

www.heritage.org

Snowflakes are gonna snowflake - but if we want scientific data than the question is male or female only. Not what you are feeling like today.

We spend much too time and tax dollars on the fringes of the population.

 

[pauldun170]

Cause the aclu wants menstrual justice.

ACLU demands tampons in men's bathrooms for 'menstrual justice' - LifeSite

The initiative is ostensibly to prevent discrimination against 'every person who menstruates.'

www.lifesitenews.com

I'm not going to click the link (because at first glance it looks like a moron bait site) but I'm assuming its for females who identify as men and this is specifically about situations where only gender specific bathrooms are available.

 

[whm1974]

Cause the aclu wants menstrual justice.

ACLU demands tampons in men's bathrooms for 'menstrual justice' - LifeSite

The initiative is ostensibly to prevent discrimination against 'every person who menstruates.'

www.lifesitenews.com

Um beg your pardon but from briefly looking through the website's Front Page, this looks like a Far Right propaganda piece instead of anything proper.