Political Correctness running amok again

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Hacp

Lifer
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This is not "political correctness" but the application of psychological developmental theory.
You really don't get the term "political correctness"

This is exactly what we don't need. Psychologists and sociologists trying to tell us how to live our lives. Don't they have anything better to do?
 

coldmeat

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Jul 10, 2007
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They've been talking about this on CFRA for a week. Pretty dumb. I knew this thread was going to be about it before clicking on it.
 

Double Trouble

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This is not "political correctness" but the application of psychological developmental theory.
You really don't get the term "political correctness"

Indeed, it's not political correctness, it's simple stupidity.

Teaching kids sportsmanship is important and vital to their development. This isn't teaching sportsmanship, this is teaching absolute stupidity.

Apparently rational thought is not a requirement for running that league.
 

Cogman

Lifer
Sep 19, 2000
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Why not just introduce the mercy rule then? If a team is up by 10, they win automatically. I would much rather see that then "You lose if you play too well."
 

destrekor

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This is exactly what we don't need. Psychologists and sociologists trying to tell us how to live our lives. Don't they have anything better to do?

No, just some of them are idiots.

Some of them see a theory exists, and then either they, or the regular layman with no actual understanding, will see evidence of the theory in real life, and move to extinguish all evidence of said theory.

If the theory exists, and there is a cause and effect, it must be bad regardless of the end effect.
Unfortunately, it seems many people do not realize that it is a good thing in many cases.

Not everyone can be a winner in life. It simply doesn't work that way. Some people who suffer from loss their whole life needed that loss to turn around and end up doing great things in life. And it is needed to see that some youth who were winners their whole life, would end up becoming complete miserable failures because they learned nothing as they aged.
The reverse of that is more true than not, but it can how individuals react to a success and failure during competition is necessary to discover and to ultimately determine just how to craft individualized training for that person (parenting really is best at an individualized level, each kid is almost always different).

Ah, well that was my long way of saying, "I agree."
:D
But then again, it is not so much about psychologists and sociologists being retarded, rather, the people who interpret the social and behavioral theories and make changes to "the system" often end up being beyond retarded with no real understanding of what they are doing.

This is why I kind of want to go into the world of public policy making or the political/administrative world. I feel I have a far better understanding of human thought and behavior than most in that field.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Stupid. Seems more appropriate to just consider it a Win and end the game if that much a lead is attained.
 

SlitheryDee

Lifer
Feb 2, 2005
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Sportsmanship (like most other traits of character) is not innate, but a learned behavior. It's one of the things we hope kids learn while participating in team sports. Most (sane) parents don't expect their kids to actually benefit from knowing how to kick a soccer ball.

They're learning that rules can substitute for the real thing. That it doesn't have anything to do with personal honor or respect. That's not what sportsmanship IS. It's a lie.
 

theflyingpig

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lol. It's soccer. 5 points might as well be 5000. Such a boring, ridiculous sport. Humans have hands, they should be able to use them. Everyone knows this.
 

GasX

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It would be great to have a team that is 0-10 with a goal differential of positive 60
 

AnonymouseUser

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I was part of a HS JV soccer team that lost a match by the score of 18-0, and I'll be damned if it negatively affected me. This ruling blows.
 

0roo0roo

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Sep 21, 2002
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they still going on about self esteem up there?
the old theories are all wrong. bullies have high self esteem it turns out.
 

ProfJohn

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Jul 28, 2006
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Ok, the rule is stupid.

But keep in mind that a 5 point differential in soccer is HUGE!!!

My nieces Jr High team was a power house team that went undefeated two years in a row and even won a JV high school tournament beating teams with Sophomores and Juniors on it.

And they still hardly ever won games by more than 5 goals.

The best solution is to even out the teams via tryouts OR to remove players from the field when a team takes a 6 point lead.
 

CPA

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My guess is that this league is run by a bunch of women. Nothing against women, but I am part of a youth football league and there's a lot of women who would like to take competition out of our league. I usually tell them "this league is probably not for you then".

Edit: okay, looks like their board is made up of several women and girly men.
 
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