Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Wasn't American Armaments recently made found in the Possesion of Iraqi troops and that they were sold to the Iraqi via a third party?
The Roland anti-aircraft system is a short-range air defence missile in service with at least 10 countries, including France and Germany.
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Wasn't American Armaments recently made found in the Possesion of Iraqi troops and that they were sold to the Iraqi via a third party?
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Wasn't American Armaments recently made found in the Possesion of Iraqi troops and that they were sold to the Iraqi via a third party?
That explains why America was against the war too!
Originally posted by: Queasy
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Helps explain why the French didn't want us there in the first place.
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: Queasy
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Helps explain why the French didn't want us there in the first place.
Sanctions were lifted in 2003.
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: Queasy
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Helps explain why the French didn't want us there in the first place.
Sanctions were lifted in 2003.
late 2003.....
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: Queasy
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Helps explain why the French didn't want us there in the first place.
Sanctions were lifted in 2003.
late 2003.....
And...? Are you saying Iraq waited till 2003 to buy anti-aircraft missiles from France, and never bothered using them?
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: Queasy
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Helps explain why the French didn't want us there in the first place.
Sanctions were lifted in 2003.
late 2003.....
And...? Are you saying Iraq waited till 2003 to buy anti-aircraft missiles from France, and never bothered using them?
You are telling me that Iraq would not have ordered supplies with the US sitting outside of its borders?
Originally posted by: SuperTool
If I was Poland, I wouldn't touch this with a 10 foot Pole 😀
Wouldn't surprise me. Just look at the way the gov't managed the records of WMDs. Looks like the ones that weren't destroyed either were destroyed and weren't recorded or were never made and were reported by workers trying to impress (or avoid the wrath of) their bosses.Originally posted by: SuperTool
Yeah, they would order missiles urgently in 2003, only to not deploy them and leave them in stockpiles. That makes sense.
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: Queasy
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Helps explain why the French didn't want us there in the first place.
Sanctions were lifted in 2003.
late 2003.....
And...? Are you saying Iraq waited till 2003 to buy anti-aircraft missiles from France, and never bothered using them?
You are telling me that Iraq would not have ordered supplies with the US sitting outside of its borders?
Yeah, they would order missiles urgently in 2003, only to not deploy them and leave them in stockpiles. That makes sense.
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: Queasy
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Helps explain why the French didn't want us there in the first place.
Sanctions were lifted in 2003.
late 2003.....
And...? Are you saying Iraq waited till 2003 to buy anti-aircraft missiles from France, and never bothered using them?
You are telling me that Iraq would not have ordered supplies with the US sitting outside of its borders?
Yeah, they would order missiles urgently in 2003, only to not deploy them and leave them in stockpiles. That makes sense.
Well can you tell for sure that these type of missles were not used?
There was plenty of AA weapons used during war.
Or maybe these just did not get used?
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: Queasy
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Helps explain why the French didn't want us there in the first place.
Sanctions were lifted in 2003.
late 2003.....
And...? Are you saying Iraq waited till 2003 to buy anti-aircraft missiles from France, and never bothered using them?
You are telling me that Iraq would not have ordered supplies with the US sitting outside of its borders?
Yeah, they would order missiles urgently in 2003, only to not deploy them and leave them in stockpiles. That makes sense.
Well can you tell for sure that these type of missles were not used?
There was plenty of AA weapons used during war.
Or maybe these just did not get used?
Can you tell me for sure that these weapons were actually found, and are not just Poles making things up to suck up to the US?
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: Queasy
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Helps explain why the French didn't want us there in the first place.
Sanctions were lifted in 2003.
late 2003.....
And...? Are you saying Iraq waited till 2003 to buy anti-aircraft missiles from France, and never bothered using them?
You are telling me that Iraq would not have ordered supplies with the US sitting outside of its borders?
Yeah, they would order missiles urgently in 2003, only to not deploy them and leave them in stockpiles. That makes sense.
Well can you tell for sure that these type of missles were not used?
There was plenty of AA weapons used during war.
Or maybe these just did not get used?
Can you tell me for sure that these weapons were actually found, and are not just Poles making things up to suck up to the US?
While that is an interesting and possible, i would also mark it as doubtfull. I say this because this is not the first time french weapons were found in iraq.
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: Queasy
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Helps explain why the French didn't want us there in the first place.
Sanctions were lifted in 2003.
late 2003.....
And...? Are you saying Iraq waited till 2003 to buy anti-aircraft missiles from France, and never bothered using them?
You are telling me that Iraq would not have ordered supplies with the US sitting outside of its borders?
Yeah, they would order missiles urgently in 2003, only to not deploy them and leave them in stockpiles. That makes sense.
Well can you tell for sure that these type of missles were not used?
There was plenty of AA weapons used during war.
Or maybe these just did not get used?
Can you tell me for sure that these weapons were actually found, and are not just Poles making things up to suck up to the US?
While that is an interesting and possible, i would also mark it as doubtfull. I say this because this is not the first time french weapons were found in iraq.
Yeah, but that doesn't mean they were sent there with France's government's blessing. You can buy a lot of things on the black market.
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: Queasy
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Helps explain why the French didn't want us there in the first place.
Sanctions were lifted in 2003.
late 2003.....
And...? Are you saying Iraq waited till 2003 to buy anti-aircraft missiles from France, and never bothered using them?
You are telling me that Iraq would not have ordered supplies with the US sitting outside of its borders?
Yeah, they would order missiles urgently in 2003, only to not deploy them and leave them in stockpiles. That makes sense.
Well can you tell for sure that these type of missles were not used?
There was plenty of AA weapons used during war.
Or maybe these just did not get used?
Can you tell me for sure that these weapons were actually found, and are not just Poles making things up to suck up to the US?
While that is an interesting and possible, i would also mark it as doubtfull. I say this because this is not the first time french weapons were found in iraq.
Yeah, but that doesn't mean they were sent there with France's government's blessing. You can buy a lot of things on the black market.
I am not claiming the french goverment did so. However, it does appear that french goverment might have been negligent in who they sold such weapons too.
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: Queasy
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Helps explain why the French didn't want us there in the first place.
Sanctions were lifted in 2003.
late 2003.....
And...? Are you saying Iraq waited till 2003 to buy anti-aircraft missiles from France, and never bothered using them?
You are telling me that Iraq would not have ordered supplies with the US sitting outside of its borders?
Yeah, they would order missiles urgently in 2003, only to not deploy them and leave them in stockpiles. That makes sense.
Well can you tell for sure that these type of missles were not used?
There was plenty of AA weapons used during war.
Or maybe these just did not get used?
Can you tell me for sure that these weapons were actually found, and are not just Poles making things up to suck up to the US?
While that is an interesting and possible, i would also mark it as doubtfull. I say this because this is not the first time french weapons were found in iraq.
Yeah, but that doesn't mean they were sent there with France's government's blessing. You can buy a lot of things on the black market.
I am not claiming the french goverment did so. However, it does appear that french goverment might have been negligent in who they sold such weapons too.
It's don't ask don't tell when it comes to weapons sales. We are the ones who sent stingers to terrorists in the 80's.