police shoot passenger

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: her209
After so many fvck ups resulting in millions of money being paid in compensatory damages, the only losers here are the taxpayers.

Quite true. Look how innocent ol Rodney King turned out. The cops should have hit him harder.

You're joking right?

Or do you really not get it?

Rodney King deserved what he got.

But looking at this video I don't see how this man deserved to get shot.

It doesn't matter what Rodney King deserved. Those were the Los Angeles Police, not the Karma Police; you may not 'feel sorry' for Rodney King, but the overstepping of authority by police should concern you.

Wait are you still plugging the totalitarian police state this week or have you moved on?

 

[ValkyrieofHouston]

Originally posted by: morkinva
video

I'd like to see the video without the voiceover newsguy. I wonder what the news would say if there wasn't some citizen there to film it? :|

Welcome to the police state!



http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbc...le?AID=/20060202/NEWS01/602020350/1002

FBI investigating shooting of local airman in California

By John Andrew Prime
jprime@gannett.com

The FBI in California has launched an investigation into the shooting Sunday night of a Barksdale Air Force Base policeman on leave to his home in Chino.

At the same time federal investigators announced they were looking into possible civil rights violations in the shooting. The San Bernardino County district attorney's office said it has assigned investigators to look into the case.


Senior Airman Elio Carrion, 21, a member of the 2nd Security Forces Squadron, was a passenger in a Corvette that led a deputy on a short, 100 mph chase, authorities said.

A videotape by a bystander shows a deputy ordering Carrion to his feet and then shooting him several times as Carrion seemed to comply with the order. Carrion, who was unarmed...

Yea, was watching this on the news yesterday and now they are saying the policeman was saying shut up instead 0f get up. what a crock.

Police just have way to much power and more and more civilians are becoming the victims of their abuse. They are way too heavy handed in my opinion.

 

[Dissipate]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: her209
After so many fvck ups resulting in millions of money being paid in compensatory damages, the only losers here are the taxpayers.

Quite true. Look how innocent ol Rodney King turned out. The cops should have hit him harder.

You're joking right?

Or do you really not get it?

Rodney King deserved what he got.

But looking at this video I don't see how this man deserved to get shot.

It doesn't matter what Rodney King deserved. Those were the Los Angeles Police, not the Karma Police; you may not 'feel sorry' for Rodney King, but the overstepping of authority by police should concern you.

Wait are you still plugging the totalitarian police state this week or have you moved on?

I may want to remind you, 3chord, that this guy believes in a world communist/dictatorshiop government.

 

[DVK916]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: her209
After so many fvck ups resulting in millions of money being paid in compensatory damages, the only losers here are the taxpayers.

Quite true. Look how innocent ol Rodney King turned out. The cops should have hit him harder.

You're joking right?

Or do you really not get it?

Rodney King deserved what he got.

But looking at this video I don't see how this man deserved to get shot.

It doesn't matter what Rodney King deserved. Those were the Los Angeles Police, not the Karma Police; you may not 'feel sorry' for Rodney King, but the overstepping of authority by police should concern you.

Wait are you still plugging the totalitarian police state this week or have you moved on?

Sure the police may have oversteped their bonds but remember Rodney King assulted the Police officer first. He attacked them.

 

[DVK916]

Originally posted by: Dissipate

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: her209
After so many fvck ups resulting in millions of money being paid in compensatory damages, the only losers here are the taxpayers.

Quite true. Look how innocent ol Rodney King turned out. The cops should have hit him harder.

You're joking right?

Or do you really not get it?

Rodney King deserved what he got.

But looking at this video I don't see how this man deserved to get shot.

It doesn't matter what Rodney King deserved. Those were the Los Angeles Police, not the Karma Police; you may not 'feel sorry' for Rodney King, but the overstepping of authority by police should concern you.

Wait are you still plugging the totalitarian police state this week or have you moved on?

I may want to remind you, 3chord, that this guy believes in a world communist/dictatorshiop government.

I was only joking around then.

 

[digitalme]

whoa ! this anchorwoman is hot !

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: Dissipate

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: her209
After so many fvck ups resulting in millions of money being paid in compensatory damages, the only losers here are the taxpayers.

Quite true. Look how innocent ol Rodney King turned out. The cops should have hit him harder.

You're joking right?

Or do you really not get it?

Rodney King deserved what he got.

But looking at this video I don't see how this man deserved to get shot.

It doesn't matter what Rodney King deserved. Those were the Los Angeles Police, not the Karma Police; you may not 'feel sorry' for Rodney King, but the overstepping of authority by police should concern you.

Wait are you still plugging the totalitarian police state this week or have you moved on?

I may want to remind you, 3chord, that this guy believes in a world communist/dictatorshiop government.

No need for the reminder

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: DVK916
Sure the police may have oversteped their bonds but remember Rodney King assulted the Police officer first. He attacked them.

That might work in the 'hood, but Police don't only have power - they have responsibiity too. They are authorized to use force to detain, but not as a way of avenging personal anger.

So once again, it doesn't matter what Rodney King deserved.

 

[RichardE]

Perhaps we should not lead Police on 100mph chases?

 

[Dissipate]

Originally posted by: RichardE
Perhaps we should not lead Police on 100mph chases?

The guy who was shot wasn't even the driver. :roll:

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Dissipate

Originally posted by: RichardE
Perhaps we should not lead Police on 100mph chases?

The guy who was shot wasn't even the driver. :roll:

and that negates the fact they lead him on a 100mph chase why? :roll:

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Dissipate

Originally posted by: RichardE
Perhaps we should not lead Police on 100mph chases?

The guy who was shot wasn't even the driver. :roll:

and that negates the fact they lead him on a 100mph chase why? :roll:

Unless you have some reason to believe that the passenger put a gun to the driver and said 'drive', then yes.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Dissipate

Originally posted by: RichardE
Perhaps we should not lead Police on 100mph chases?

The guy who was shot wasn't even the driver. :roll:

and that negates the fact they lead him on a 100mph chase why? :roll:

Unless you have some reason to believe that the passenger put a gun to the driver and said 'drive', then yes.

Sorry, obviously the passenger was a willing partcipant, or we would see Kidnapping charges.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Dissipate

Originally posted by: RichardE
Perhaps we should not lead Police on 100mph chases?

The guy who was shot wasn't even the driver. :roll:

and that negates the fact they lead him on a 100mph chase why? :roll:

Unless you have some reason to believe that the passenger put a gun to the driver and said 'drive', then yes.

Sorry, obviously the passenger was a willing partcipant, or we would see Kidnapping charges.

Not after the police shot him you wouldn't.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
One lesson I take from this is that it's probably a good idea not to put cops through a high speed chase.

Sounds like good advice to me.

Still the police are trained to handle that or they shouldn't be participating in 100 mph chases. To me, they should have a good reason to participate in such a chase. I mean running a stop sign isn't a justifiable reason to put the public at danger with such a chase.

I don't see where it says why they were chasing them. Just back from Iraq? Maybe he was out living it up a little and got out of control. Kind of sad.

 

[spunkz]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Dissipate

Originally posted by: RichardE
Perhaps we should not lead Police on 100mph chases?

The guy who was shot wasn't even the driver. :roll:

and that negates the fact they lead him on a 100mph chase why? :roll:

Unless you have some reason to believe that the passenger put a gun to the driver and said 'drive', then yes.

Sorry, obviously the passenger was a willing partcipant, or we would see Kidnapping charges.

could explain the "I'm on your side", though

 

[shrumpage]

I caught the story on NPR.

Couple of points.

1. people get put on leave with pay because we don't assume guilt. It would be a form of punishment, without going through due process, to send 'em packing with no way to support themselves. Generally speaking you want the person not to be in the line of duty because of the media attention, not to mention the extra stress the person is going through. Send 'em home or send 'em to a desk, in till the investigation is complete.

2. the cop in question has served for about 10 years - with no compliants. Nothing at this point to label him a "bad cop."

They played the audio portion of the encounter, and the expert they had on aid it was to difficult to determine what exactly what was said. And that it was equally possible the cop misspoke his command or that the passenger missheard the command. Under the stress of the situation - either is very possible.

My guess is no matter how the case turns out the cop's career is over.

 

[DVK916]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: DVK916
Sure the police may have oversteped their bonds but remember Rodney King assulted the Police officer first. He attacked them.

That might work in the 'hood, but Police don't only have power - they have responsibiity too. They are authorized to use force to detain, but not as a way of avenging personal anger.

So once again, it doesn't matter what Rodney King deserved.

So in your opinion if someone punches a police officer in the face, the police officer doesn't have a right to punch him back.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: DVK916
Sure the police may have oversteped their bonds but remember Rodney King assulted the Police officer first. He attacked them.

That might work in the 'hood, but Police don't only have power - they have responsibiity too. They are authorized to use force to detain, but not as a way of avenging personal anger.

So once again, it doesn't matter what Rodney King deserved.

So in your opinion if someone punches a police officer in the face, the police officer doesn't have a right to punch him back.

For what reason?

The police officer is authorized to use force to control a suspect, if necessary - they aren't authorized to punch someone because 'he hit me first'. That doesn't even work in the third grade.

 

[Passions]

f**** pigs!!!

That 21 yr old is soon to be millionaire.

I haven't met a good cop ever!!! power hungry bastards.

 

[Generator]

What was the reason he wasn't in handcuffs? Obviously this police officer lost his damn mind and wanted to kill somebody.

 

[ValkyrieofHouston]

Originally posted by: Czar
all to often a police officer kills someone and doesnt get arrested, nooo, he gets a vacation

This is true, we have allowed the police and government to have way too much power.
I saw this video and listened to the witnesses statements on the news. This guy was a military MP and was complying the whole time.

 

[themusgrat]

That movie is sick. It is incredible that we have so many stupid cops that are either donut-trained, or think that everyone is out to get them. Hence, cops calmly shooting people who comply with their requests. At least the dude is getting better.

 

[Passions]

Originally posted by: themusgrat
That movie is sick. It is incredible that we have so many stupid cops that are either donut-trained, or think that everyone is out to get them. Hence, cops calmly shooting people who comply with their requests. At least the dude is getting better.

yeah, donut-hungry f***ing pigs!!!!

 

[ryan256]

I think its very clear from the video this cop will no longer be one once the investigation is complete. The words "up" and "down" sound nothing alike. So I think its safe to say the airman did not misunderstand his instructions. Shooting him was not necessary. Thats gonna get him fired.
In addition it looks like the cop shot him twice while on the ground. I can't see how shooting a man thats already down could be sanctioned in any police proceedure. I think this will get him charged.