Police mace the hell out of peaceful OWS protesters

[MotionMan]

makes no sense why the police attack OWS but not the ignorant tea partiers.

Serious question: Which tea partiers?

MotionMan

Did I miss the answer to this question?

MotionMan

 

[JackBurton]

Ok, so can we all now agree that the protestors deserved it?

 

[Lifted]

Ok, so can we all now agree that the protestors deserved it?

No. I'm still of the opinion that they were way too soft on them.

 

[JackBurton]

No. I'm still of the opinion that they were way too soft on them.

That's ok. It looks like we are moving in the right direction though. Carry on...

 

[janas19]

Pepper spray is warranted whenever someone refuses to comply with an order from law enforcement. Even if you feel the order is unlawful, you comply with the order and fight it later.

The last thing cops want is to escalate the contact to a physical struggle that can lead to one or both parties being injured. Using pepper spray causes non-lethal pain and temporary disables the subject so they can be taken into custody or disbursed as safely as possible.

If you are going to protest, and refuse to comply with orders from law enforcement, expect to taste some pepper spray. The alternative compliance hold the officer will have to use to physically move the subject will probably hurt a lot more.

Also, none of these protesters were forced to leave or arrested for what they were saying. NOBODY HAD THEIR FREE SPEECH RIGHTS TAKEN AWAY. THEY WERE REMOVED FOR TRESPASSING, NOT BECAUSE OF THEIR MESSAGE. Nobody can camp out in a public park. Your free speech rights don't include the right to exercise them wherever you want at the expense of others.

You totally missed the point. The point is there was NO physical contact or even the threat of contact. They were sitting passively on the ground. There was absolutely no need for pepper spray, hence you are a moron.

 

[Robsasman]

Though, as much as I support lot of the points of the OWS protesters, I don't think what they're doing will have any effect whatsoever on the government and they should probably just give it up. When's the last time the government actually listened to it's citizens?

It looks like someone is listening.

http://thinkprogress.org/special/20...amendment-to-ban-corporate-money-in-politics/

 

[Paladin3]

You totally missed the point. The point is there was NO physical contact or even the threat of contact. They were sitting passively on the ground. There was absolutely no need for pepper spray, hence you are a moron.

I missed the point? Please reread my comments. There was no physical contact BECAUSE the cops used pepper spray rather than physically dragging the trespassers out and risking injury to one or both parties. Leaving the protesters/trespassers where they were was not on option.

Who's the moron?

 

[dwell]

PS: Squatting on a walkway at a University accomplishes what, exactly?

Seems these fucktards just want to rebel for the sake of rebelling.

 

[WelshBloke]

I missed the point? Please reread my comments. There was no physical contact BECAUSE the cops used pepper spray rather than physically dragging the trespassers out and risking injury to one or both parties. Leaving the protesters/trespassers where they were was not on option.

Who's the moron?

Didnt they pepper spray them and physically drag/subdue them?

 

[Phokus]

I missed the point? Please reread my comments. There was no physical contact BECAUSE the cops used pepper spray rather than physically dragging the trespassers out and risking injury to one or both parties. Leaving the protesters/trespassers where they were was not on option.

Who's the moron?

You're the moron. Police officers aren't allowed to use pepper spray on people who aren't a threat. People locking arms and sitting down and not moving are not a threat. This is more egregious than even Anthony Bologna spraying those 2 women and HE got in trouble for it. You drooling retard.

Pepper spray is warranted whenever someone refuses to comply with an order from law enforcement. Even if you feel the order is unlawful, you comply with the order and fight it later.

No it's not, you drooling shit stain, read what i said above. Anthony balogna got sanctioned for his use of pepper spray. This UC davis incident is even worse because the students sitting on the ground were taking the most extreme passive posture they possibly could.

 

[Omegachi]

I hate damn hippies.

 

[pcgeek11]

This is funny as shit. They deserved a good hosing down with pepper spray. The rule all these OWS Pussies are ignoring is that their rights cannot infringe on anyones else's rights. That is mainly what the thick headed bastards do not understand. How stupid can they be? They are proving they can be nearly retarded. Seeing the videos just makes me wish I could hose a few of them with pepper spray.

 

[JackBurton]

This is funny as shit. They deserved a good hosing down with pepper spray. The rule all these OWS Pussies are ignoring is that their rights cannot infringe on anyones else's rights. That is mainly what the thick headed bastards do not understand. How stupid can they be? They are proving they can be nearly retarded. Seeing the videos just makes me wish I could hose a few of them with pepper spray.

Yep. Again, when you are given an order by the police, you do it. Otherwise, you accept the consequences. Feel lucky you only got pepper sprayed.

 

[WelshBloke]

Yep. Again, when you are given an order by the police, you do it. Otherwise, you accept the consequences. Feel lucky you only got pepper sprayed.

Any order?

 

[janas19]

Yep. Again, when you are given an order by the police, you do it. Otherwise, you accept the consequences. Feel lucky you only got pepper sprayed.

Good to see we still have the best and the brightest in America.

 

[JackBurton]

Any order?

Well a specific example would be, "move or you will be pepper sprayed." I would recommend doing what you are told. Otherwise, I don't want to hear your whining about being sprayed.

 

[JackBurton]

Good to see we still have the best and the brightest in America.

Yes, the brightest moved and were not pepper sprayed. The morons are the ones who got sprayed.


Did I mention I hate hippie protestors? I'm not a big fan of cops either, but hippie protestors trump cops in my book.

 

[Lifted]

This UC davis incident is even worse because the students sitting on the ground were taking the most extreme passive posture they possibly could.

I have to disagree with you here.

The most passive posture would have been to sit, without arms locked, not requiring police to wrestle with each and every one of them in order to handcuff them and drag/lift/haul them to the wagon. The students have to go through that process once, while the officers have to repeat it 20(?) times, increasing the chance of injury each time they are forced to do it. The students were given ample warning that they were leaving the police no option but to subdue them before being cuffed, to each and every one of them, face to face, so they all understood what was about to happen.

I do understand why they were doing this - for the "outrage" and attention it drew to their cause - which appears to have had at least some results, but anyone saying that subduing the students w/ pepper spray was somehow wrong is not looking at the situation from both sides, and putting themselves in the place of the officers who must wrestle with 20 students.

This process decreased risk of permanent injury to all parties involved, and also accomplished exactly what the protesters were looking for.

Both sides are happy, the world is still here, and hopefully something good will come out of all of this.

 

[Phokus]

Yes, the brightest moved and were not pepper sprayed. The morons are the ones who got sprayed.


Did I mention I hate hippie protestors? I'm not a big fan of cops either, but hippie protestors trump cops in my book.

The only moron is you. Cops aren't allowed to use pepper spray on those who aren't showing aggression/being a threat. You drooling imbecile. This is exactly what got Officer Bolgna in trouble during the OWS protest.

 

[WelshBloke]

Well a specific example would be, "move or you will be pepper sprayed." I would recommend doing what you are told. Otherwise, I don't want to hear your whining about being sprayed.

What about "dance a little jig or you will be pepper sprayed."

Or "bark like a dog or you will be pepper sprayed."

You really have no self respect do you?

 

[Phokus]

I have to disagree with you here.

The most passive posture would have been to sit, without arms locked, not requiring police to wrestle with each and every one of them in order to handcuff them and drag/lift/haul them to the wagon. The students have to go through that process once, while the officers have to repeat it 20(?) times, increasing the chance of injury each time they are forced to do it. The students were given ample warning that they were leaving the police no option but to subdue them before being cuffed, to each and every one of them, face to face, so they all understood what was about to happen.

I do understand why they were doing this for the "outrage" and attention it drew to their cause, which appears to have had at least some results, but anyone saying that subduing the students w/ pepper spray was somehow wrong is not looking at the situation from both sides, and putting themselves in the place of the officers who must wrestle with 20 students.

This process decreased risk of permanent injury to all parties involved, and also accomplished exactly what the protesters were looking for.

Both sides are happy, the world is still here, and hopefully something good will come out of all of this.

You disagree with me, but YOU'RE WRONG. Unless the students display a threatening demeanor, cops AREN'T allowed to use pepper spray. Anthony Bologna got in trouble for LESS.

 

[Phokus]

What about "dance a little jig or you will be pepper sprayed."

Or "bark like a dog or you will be pepper sprayed."

You really have no self respect do you?

Or forcing a woman to perform sex on him or else he'll take her to jail:

http://www.kdvr.com/news/kdvr-denver-officer-kidnap-sex-txt,0,4111896.story

Jack Burton is a piece of dog shit. JUST COMPLY BITCH, right jack? HURF DURF, THE POLICE ARE ALWAYS RIGHT.

 

[JackBurton]

What about "dance a little jig or you will be pepper sprayed."

Or "bark like a dog or you will be pepper sprayed."

You really have no self respect do you?

lol, yeah, that's exactly what was going on here. Sorry, you won't get my support for your moronic cause. If you want to interlock arms and sit there when police have told you to move, you need to take your pepper spray like a man. Quit being a pussy and expect the public's support to back you up. You made the decision to sit their like a moron, you can take it like a moron. And if you happen to hear a faint laugh in the background, that's me.

 

[dmcowen674]

Cops aren't allowed to use pepper spray on those who aren't showing aggression/being a threat.

A lot of videos show otherwise.

 

[Lifted]

You disagree with me, but YOU'RE WRONG. Unless the students display a threatening demeanor, cops AREN'T allowed to use pepper spray. Anthony Bologna got in trouble for LESS.

Resisting arrest is in itself a crime. The students not only refused to do the typical 'stand up, hands behind the back' routine, they actively resisted even more-so by locking arms. If it were 2 or 3 students doing this, I'd agree with you, but there were some 20 students there. Do you not understand that wrestling with 20 young, and probably healthy students, has a good likelihood of leading to injury on both sides?

You keep saying everyone is wrong. Well, we'll just have to let the court decide that one, but I think you'll find that no judge will agree with you that the police should put themselves or the students in harms way in these situations.