Police mace the hell out of peaceful OWS protesters

[911paramedic]

If they tried to cuff one of them and they resisted being cuffed, then hit them with the spray. If they never even attempted to arrest them before spraying them, it was out of line.

BTW, that particular cop (campus police) was put on leave pending an investigation.

 

[Phokus]

Resisting arrest is in itself a crime. The students not only refused to do the typical 'stand up, hands behind the back' routine, they actively resisted even more-so by locking arms. If it were 2 or 3 students doing this, I'd agree with you, but there were some 20 students there. Do you not understand that wrestling with 20 young, and probably healthy students, has a good likelihood of leading to injury on both sides?

You keep saying everyone is wrong. Well, we'll just have to let the court decide that one, but I think you'll find that no judge will agree with you that the police should put themselves or the students in harms way in these situations.

Resisting arrest is a crime, BUT THAT DOESN'T GIVE THE POLICE AUTHORITY TO USE PEPPER SPRAY IN THAT TYPE OF SITUATION YOU DROOLING MORON

For the 100th time, Anthony Balogna got sanctioned by his department for LESS

Edit: Injuries on 'both sides', LOL, give me a break.

 

[WelshBloke]

lol, yeah, that's exactly what was going on here. Sorry, you won't get my support for your moronic cause. If you want to interlock arms and sit there when police have told you to move, you need to take your pepper spray like a man. Quit being a pussy and expect the public's support to back you up. You made the decision to sit their like a moron, you can take it like a moron. And if you happen to hear a faint laugh in the background, that's me.

What cause?

I'm just taking issue with this statement.

Yep. Again, when you are given an order by the police, you do it. Otherwise, you accept the consequences. Feel lucky you only got pepper sprayed.

The police are subject to the rule of law as well and should be held to it. You cant just pussy out and say "but its the police, they can do anything".

Well you can, but you dont deserve to live in a democracy if you do.

 

[911paramedic]

A lot of videos show otherwise.

This was on 60 minutes not too long ago. They were talking about how officers were relying on it too much and it was being used as a crutch instead of them actually doing what they are supposed to do.

Personally, I think they use it much too quickly.

 

[OrByte]

The statement from the police chief said something about the officers being surrounded and fearing for their safety.

They were surrounded by people who were sitting on the ground with arms interlocked, making no aggressive moves towards the officers.

Just think about that for a minute. Which group in this scenario is considered a threat?

 

[WelshBloke]

The statement from the police chief said something about the officers being surrounded and fearing for their safety.

They were surrounded by people who were sitting on the ground with arms interlocked, making no aggressive moves towards the officers.

Just think about that for a minute. Which group in this scenario is considered a threat?

That would be the officers in the video in the OP sort of slouching around the place looking generally bored?

 

[Lifted]

Resisting arrest is a crime, BUT THAT DOESN'T GIVE THE POLICE AUTHORITY TO USE PEPPER SPRAY IN THAT TYPE OF SITUATION YOU DROOLING MORON

For the 100th time, Anthony Balogna got sanctioned by his department for LESS

Edit: Injuries on 'both sides', LOL, give me a break.

Thanks for the caps. They make your well thought-out and convincing arguments much easier to comprehend, though it was the added insults that have me thoroughly convinced.

I must admit, you've piqued my interest in this Anthony Balogna. Please provide links to this case showing how the situations were identical. I'll be here, waiting in anticipation.

 

[JackBurton]

Or forcing a woman to perform sex on him or else he'll take her to jail:

http://www.kdvr.com/news/kdvr-denver-officer-kidnap-sex-txt,0,4111896.story

Jack Burton is a piece of dog shit. JUST COMPLY BITCH, right jack? HURF DURF, THE POLICE ARE ALWAYS RIGHT.

LOL, I find it funny you take my comment to the extreme to make your point. Is that what happened here? A woman was being force to perform sex on him and she refused, so she was pepper sprayed? Maybe I missed that clip. OR, maybe it's similar to what happened here? Oh yeah, IT'S NOT! It's some bullshit extreme argument that has nothing to do with this incident?

I never said the police are always right. And the comment I made was not absolute, obviously their are exceptions, but this ain't one of them. So take your hippie whining else where, because I don't want to hear it.

 

[WelshBloke]

LOL, I find it funny you take my comment to the extreme to make your point. Is that what happened here? A woman was being force to perform sex on him and she refused, so she was pepper sprayed? Maybe I missed that clip. OR, maybe it's similar to what happened here? Oh yeah, IT'S NOT! It's some bullshit extreme argument that has nothing to do with this incident?

I never said the police are always right. And the comment I made was not absolute, obviously their are exceptions, but this ain't one of them. So take your hippie whining else where, because I don't want to hear it.

You gonna pepper spray me?

 

[JackBurton]

You gonna pepper spray me?

Maybe.

 

[OrByte]

That would be the officers in the video in the OP sort of slouching around the place looking generally bored?

Ha! Yeah maybe the officers were not aware that they were supposed to be in fear of their lives while they were stepping on and around the passively resisting protesters

 

[rudeguy]

Should have rinsed them off with some fire hoses.

These people are the dregs of society and need to be dealt with.

 

[OrByte]

Should have rinsed them off with some fire hoses.

These people are the dregs of society and need to be dealt with.

Dregs of society? What makes you say that?

 

[rudeguy]

Dregs of society? What makes you say that?

They are ungrateful socialist idiots. The guy on the corner begging for change is more useful than these parasites.

 

[spidey07]

You are here illegally, leave now or get the pepper spray.
I'm not moving!
PEPPER SPRAY! TO THE FACE!
OMG! Why did you spray me, SHAME

It's all very simple, disobey orders to stop your criminal activity or get the spray.

Every thing I've read said this is proper use for the spraying as it leads to less injury to the criminals than carrying them away.

 

[olds]

The cops were placed on administrative leave.
The guy who wrote the rules of engagement for the university watched the video and said the cops were following the written procedure.
http://www.sacbee.com/2011/11/20/4068424/campus-cops-who-pepper-sprayed.html

Hmm, the part about the cops following the rules has been edited out.

 

[dwell]

Can anyone tell me what they think they were protesting? Seriously, what does sitting on a walking path have to do distribution of wealth?

 

[olds]

Can anyone tell me what they think they were protesting? Seriously, what does sitting on a walking path have to do distribution of wealth?

They were protesting school fee hikes.

 

[dwell]

They were protesting school fee hikes.

Ah. Is the term "occupy" a blanket term for any sort of protest? Not just OWS?

 

[janas19]

Yes, the brightest moved and were not pepper sprayed. The morons are the ones who got sprayed.


Did I mention I hate hippie protestors? I'm not a big fan of cops either, but hippie protestors trump cops in my book.

You're not a patriot, you're an imbecile. Good day sir.

 

[goog40]

They were protesting school fee hikes.

In that case they should have had a "we are the 50%" rally like that South Park episode.

UC's Blue and Gold Opportunity Plan will cover your educational and student services fees if you are a California resident whose family earns less than $80,000 a year and you qualify for financial aid — and that's just for starters.

Under the plan, your systemwide fees will be fully covered by scholarship or grant money if you are in your first four years at UC (two if you're a transfer student).

The plan combines all sources of scholarship and grant awards you receive (federal, state, UC and private) to count toward covering your fees. If, for example, you receive Pell and Cal Grants and private scholarships that don't fully cover your fees, UC grant money will make up the difference.

Students with greater financial need can qualify for even more grant support to help defray other educational expenses (like books, housing, transportation, etc.) In 2010-11, UC provided grant and scholarship assistance averaging $14,514 per student to more than half of undergraduates.

The students who don't qualify end up having to help pay for it. The year they first instituted that program, tuition went up by about 50%.

 

[Specop 007]

Yeah real tough to beat on unarmed kids. We saw a glimpse in katrina where retirement was more important than law and order when they were really needed.

Not that they are going to get retirements anyway, but they think they are, and that's enough to tuck tail when shit hits the fan.

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=2779219
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=2773712

Has nothing to do with being tough and everything to do with doing the job. When the orders come down to make'm leave guess what happens. Anyone protecting is going to LEAVE. Now they can leave politely and quietly when asked, they can leave grudgingly and rudely when told or they can stand there and get a face full of fuck you.

Looks like she choose to win the prize when she disregarded the orders issued by the police.

Its THAT simple. You wouldnt disregard the commands of an officer when you were pulled over for speeding would you? Then why is it somehow suddenly different in this situation.

 

[MotionMan]

You totally missed the point. The point is there was NO physical contact or even the threat of contact. They were sitting passively on the ground. There was absolutely no need for pepper spray, hence you are a moron.

Correct or incorrect:

Before they were sprayed, they were sitting with their arms locked, while trespassing and after repeatedly being given a lawful instruction to leave.

MotionMan

 

[MotionMan]

Yep. Again, when you are given an order by the police, you do it. Otherwise, you accept the consequences. Feel lucky you only got pepper sprayed.

Any order?

1. Any lawful order? Yes.
2. Any order that puts you at less risk to being injured than being pepper sprayed? Leave it to your common sense.

MotionMan

 

[SandEagle]

Involved officers placed on leave.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45374977/ns/us_news-life/