Police mace the hell out of peaceful OWS protesters

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Newbian

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You contend that they should be allowed to protest there because it is state property? I just want to make sure I'm clear on that point.

He seems to think that state owned land and public property are the same things however it's very different.

However in both cases breaking the law on either is still not allowed.
 

Lifted

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The whole blocking foot traffic issue is not going to sell well in front of a jury if something like this happens on one of our campuses.

No biggie. Just PM us their details, and as always, we'll make sure they come to the correct decision. Have we ever let you down before?
 

OutHouse

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There was no need for the Pepper Spray. They were sitting there, easily situated for simply dragging away. Cops have become increasingly Lazy and increasingly Brutal at the same time with these "Non-Lethal" tools.

ohhh booo hoooo.

the non-bathers patchulli wearing hippies deserved it. in other words GET THE FUCK OUT.
 

Mike Gayner

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ohhh booo hoooo.

the non-bathers patchulli wearing hippies deserved it. in other words GET THE FUCK OUT.

LOL @ American and its First Amendment - free speech ins't much use if even your own citizens don't give a shit about its protection.
 

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LOL @ American and its First Amendment - free speech ins't much use if even your own citizens don't give a shit about its protection.

It's not about free speech when you are trespassing and resisting arrest.

It would be like a stranger coming on your property and having his way with your sheep and saying he is protesting the sheep's right to choose. :p
 

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I know it's a hard concept to comprehend if you don't have much intelligence, but causing physical harm to someone who is not causing physical harm is wrong. Arrest the protesters, fine them, follow the law, but only the ignorant would support something like what happened. You people are pathetic
 

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LOL @ American and its First Amendment - free speech ins't much use if even your own citizens don't give a shit about its protection.

Free speech doesn't mean you can do what you want, where ever you want. They're free to protest all they want, as long as it doesn't prevent other people from using the facilities.
 

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I know it's a hard concept to comprehend if you don't have much intelligence, but causing physical harm to someone who is not causing physical harm is wrong. Arrest the protesters, fine them, follow the law, but only the ignorant would support something like what happened. You people are pathetic

That's the thing, it was used because they were resisting arrest and causing trouble along with placing themselves in danger:

Police said pepper spray was only brought out when a small group of unusually confrontational protesters refused to get out of the street and stood in the path of MAX transit trains.


So it's fine to let them stand in front of trains and get ran over?

Or them assaulting the police:

"Two of the protesters engaged in some kind of a struggle, a pushing match, with one of the officers, and in the course of that, tensions escalated and ultimately pepper spray was deployed, and that by and large resolved the disturbance at that location," King said.
 
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Matthiasa

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For the few of you in favor of living in a police state... I hear North Korea has just what you are looking for...
 

Matthiasa

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It is a path to one... actually surprised at the restraint, but that still doesn't make it right.
 

Vic Vega

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So the kids are sitting there, UC Davis files a case against them (and names who exactly as a defendant?), which brings them in front of a judge, the the school makes a motion to remove the kids? Get a grip kid. Doesn't sound like you know how the legal system or universities work.

A court order does not require a lawsuit Mr. Corporate Big Shot. Get a grip kid. Please tell me you're drunk or stoned because someone of your supposed experience should be able to comprehend a judge ordering the removal of unlawful protestors. :eek:

My list keeps growing. Astounding.
 

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pcgeek11

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From the article:

Police said pepper spray was only brought out when a small group of unusually confrontational protesters refused to get out of the street and stood in the path of MAX transit trains.

They have a right to protest peacefully.
They do not have a right to infringe on other peoples rights.

They asked for it and they got what they wanted.
 
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A court order does not require a lawsuit Mr. Corporate Big Shot. Get a grip kid. Please tell me you're drunk or stoned because someone of your supposed experience should be able to comprehend a judge ordering the removal of unlawful protestors. :eek:

My list keeps growing. Astounding.

Do you just like calling people "kid" or what? Can you please tell me how (i.e. what procedure would be used) a Court will go about issuing such an order than than concluding a judge "ordered" the removal?

This, of course, is all theoretical because without any indication of a court order, you are just talking out of your ass that this was court ordered.

I'm just curious: do you even live in CA or have any comprehension if CA law? I hope so because I'll looking forward to your answers to my questions.
 
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He seems to think that state owned land and public property are the same things however it's very different.

However in both cases breaking the law on either is still not allowed.

Thanks for putting words in my mouth. I know exactly what limits there are to speech on public universities in CA. There is a very specific standard for free speech on university campuses, and its different than that of "state owned" land or "public property."
 

MotionMan

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It isn't that hard for police to come and pick people up one at a time and take them away if need be. If someone resists, which these people weren't doing, then additional steps can be taken. This was obvious police abuse, and anyone who doesn't think so needs to actually learn about the laws of this nation. It's sad.

I couldn't care less about the OWS protests themselves, but none of what they were doing gives the police the right to assault them. Remove them, yes. Assault, no.

Serious question: In the first video, do we know that the cops did not try to remove them and the protesters refused to unlock arms to allow their removal?

MotionMan