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Police kills man in his own home. *Update* Autopsy released

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amdhunter said:
Then at least charge the one idiot. He's the one that pulled the trigger. He's the one that has prior complaints of racism and abuse, he's the one that has a civil suit against him.

But no. None of this matters. I bet he is a stand up citizen. After all Police can't be racist. It's unpossible.
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"Black and white officers were present."
 
The call is never cancelled. The police HAVE to make sure everything is okay before they finish their duty.

What if the people inside are lying about their own situation, Perhaps being held at gunpoint by a hostage taker. The Police just cannot walk away with a verbal answer from a stranger behind the door.
 
Braznor said:
The call is never cancelled. The police HAVE to make sure everything is okay before they finish their duty.

What if the people inside are lying about their own situation, Perhaps being held at gunpoint by a hostage taker. The Police just cannot walk away with a verbal answer from a stranger behind the door.
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Instead, they have to charge in and taze or shoot anyone in their path.
 
Braznor said:
The call is never cancelled. The police HAVE to make sure everything is okay before they finish their duty.

What if the people inside are lying about their own situation, Perhaps being held at gunpoint by a hostage taker. The Police just cannot walk away with a verbal answer from a stranger behind the door.
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Then shoot whoever's inside so it wasn't a wasted trip. Perfectly reasonable.
 
Sinsear said:
I can tell you from first hand experience once a call is put out they are never "cancelled"; or at least that is the case in my department. IT's called cover your ass. We'd be sued if there ever was a problem and we didn't respond because some civilian on the phone said "everything is ok, cancel the police".

We also are going to gain entry to your residence if there is no response or even if told through closed doors to "go away, everything is fine".

Lawyers are to blame for all of the above.
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Ah, so you're a cop. I've always wondered about you. Seeing that you're from Long Island I've always assumed you were a contractor. Your posts make complete sense now.
 
Dari said:
Of course blacks can be racist against other blacks. It happens all the time. Anyone can be racist against anyone else.
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"I hate you cuz you're black" says the black person. Doesn't that sound a little weird?
 
Dari said:
No one would talk like that with someone of their own race. Instead, they'd use racial epithets or other derogotary terms.
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I don't mean he literally would say that. I meant that being his mindset. That's pretty fucked up.
 
Farmer said:
I don't mean he literally would say that. I meant that being his mindset. That's pretty fucked up.
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Why? My family lives near the UN and you have German Jews talking badly about Polish Jews. Or just mix and match with Sephardic, Ethiopian, Iranian, or any other type of Jews. People say shit about others all the time. African-Americans hate Africans for selling them as slaves and Africans see African-Americans as lazy.

It's a punchbowl of fuck.
 
Dari said:
Why? My family lives near the UN and you have German Jews talking badly about Polish Jews. Or just mix and match with Sephardic, Ethiopian, Iranian, or any other type of Jews. People say shit about others all the time. African-Americans hate Africans for selling them as slaves and Africans see African-Americans as lazy.

It's a punchbowl of fuck.
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Define race. I would define a German Jew as being racially distinct from Polish Jew. You're example doesn't include German Jews hating on German Jews, which would be similar to the case of a black American cop hating on a black American citizen. Apparently, they also shared a background in the USMC.

Hating someone requires that you target some aspect about them that is different from you, otherwise you would just be hating yourself. In racism, it is your ethnic background. If they are of the same ethnic background, then it's not racism. Maybe the hate is stemmed from some economic disparity, or age disparity, or from some entitlement because he is a cop. In any case that is no longer racism.
 
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From the evidence I've seen, I have several problems with the way the cops handled this.

First, they didn't have a right to bust down his door. Without a proper search warrant, screaming for help from inside the house, or confirmation from the medical alert company the cops have no business going into the home of a private citizen. Especially if he is telling to stay out. It's his home, and he can decide who comes and goes on his property. Period.

The fact that the man was drunk doesn't matter. A man can be legally drunk as much as he wants on his own property. That STILL doesn't give police enough cause to enter his premises.

Even if the man did attack the cops once they busted down his door he has every right to do so. They were not there legally to begin with. Many a criminal has dressed up in a cop outfit to do a home invasion. Mainly because most regular citizens will let someone dressed up and identifying themselves as cops into their home regardless. Cops must have a no-knock warrant to enter a home without the permission of the occupants which is something I detest over all but that is another subject.

This case is a massive tragedy from what Iv'e read/seen thus far of the story and evidence. The cops had business going into his home the moment the man told them from the other side of his door to go away. End of story. Those involved should fry for it.
 
Farmer said:
Define race. I would define a German Jew as being racially distinct from Polish Jew. You're example doesn't include German Jews hating on German Jews, which would be similar to the case of a black American cop hating on a black American citizen. Apparently, they also shared a background in the USMC.

Hating someone requires that you target some aspect about them that is different from you, otherwise you would just be hating yourself. In racism, it is your ethnic background. If they are of the same ethnic background, then it's not racism. Maybe the hate is stemmed from some economic disparity, or age disparity, or from some entitlement because he is a cop. In any case that is no longer racism.
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Well, I don't listen that intently for the German v German thing to crop up. But I have seen the AA v AA or A v A hate.
 
Farmer said:
Define race. I would define a German Jew as being racially distinct from Polish Jew. You're example doesn't include German Jews hating on German Jews, which would be similar to the case of a black American cop hating on a black American citizen. Apparently, they also shared a background in the USMC.

Hating someone requires that you target some aspect about them that is different from you, otherwise you would just be hating yourself. In racism, it is your ethnic background. If they are of the same ethnic background, then it's not racism. Maybe the hate is stemmed from some economic disparity, or age disparity, or from some entitlement because he is a cop. In any case that is no longer racism.
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You don't have to hate someone to pre-judge them based on their race alone and make decisions based on that judgement.
 
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