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police-involved shooting in Kenosha, WI...unrest ensues

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If it's what I think you're referring to, that's a different Kyle. Also, it doesn't matter because video shows basically everything that happened. Manlet sees Kyle as an easy target. Kyle goes away from the obviously aggressive man. Manlet tries to find him and eventually identifies him. He charges while Kyle is walking with someone else, and someone in their crew says, "Let's get him".
So what is your excuse for this then? That those guys are making up their story about him pointing his gun at people telling them to get out of the car?

 
So what is your excuse for this then? That those guys are making up their story about him pointing his gun at people telling them to get out of the car?

Who cares? The conflict with manlet was 100% self-defense, and the dummies that tried to do a citizen's arrest (and that's being charitable for some of the group like Gaige) were the aggressors.

Edit: I saw this video before but just noticed the gesturing itself by the man suggest that Kyle had the rifle pointed down to the ground.
 
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Who cares? The conflict with manlet was 100% self-defense, and the dummies that tried to do a citizen's arrest (and that's being charitable for some of the group like Gaige) were the aggressors.

Edit: I saw this video before but just noticed the gesturing itself by the man suggest that Kyle had the rifle pointed down to the ground.


Oh shit the gun was pointed at the ground!! Well case closed! I mean everyone knows when someone shows up with a gun there is no need to be concerned because it take a Herculean effort to raise it up and start shooting!

Stupid black people! Why would they feel endangered by a white buy with a gun showing up at a protest about racial injustice?!
 
If it's what I think you're referring to, that's a different Kyle. Also, it doesn't matter because video shows basically everything that happened. Manlet sees Kyle as an easy target. Kyle goes away from the obviously aggressive man. Manlet tries to find him and eventually identifies him. He charges while Kyle is walking with someone else, and someone in their crew says, "Let's get him".
are you talking about the opne where he attacked a girl from behind and got his ass kicked for it?
 
Who cares? The conflict with manlet was 100% self-defense, and the dummies that tried to do a citizen's arrest (and that's being charitable for some of the group like Gaige) were the aggressors.

Edit: I saw this video before but just noticed the gesturing itself by the man suggest that Kyle had the rifle pointed down to the ground.
So is it now the official stance of the right that a bad guy with a gun is allowed to claim self defense against a good guy with a gun? Because it looks like he shot two people that were trying to stop him after killing another person and fleeing the scene.
 
Oh shit the gun was pointed at the ground!! Well case closed! I mean everyone knows when someone shows up with a gun there is no need to be concerned because it take a Herculean effort to raise it up and start shooting!

Because it matters.


941.20  Endangering safety by use of dangerous weapon.
(1)  Whoever does any of the following is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor:

941.20(1)(a) (a) Endangers another's safety by the negligent operation or handling of a dangerous weapon.
(b) Operates or goes armed with a firearm while he or she is under the influence of an intoxicant.
(bm) Operates or goes armed with a firearm while he or she has a detectable amount of a restricted controlled substance in his or her blood. A defendant has a defense to any action under this paragraph that is based on the defendant allegedly having a detectable amount of methamphetamine, gamma-hydroxybutyric acid, or delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol in his or her blood, if he or she proves by a preponderance of the evidence that at the time of the incident or occurrence he or she had a valid prescription for methamphetamine or one of its metabolic precursors, gamma-hydroxybutyric acid, or delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol.
(c) Except as provided in sub. (1m), intentionally points a firearm at or toward another.
(d) While on the lands of another discharges a firearm within 100 yards of any building devoted to human occupancy situated on and attached to the lands of another without the express permission of the owner or occupant of the building. “Building" as used in this paragraph does not include any tent, bus, truck, vehicle or similar portable unit.

Also, if he did, and they did charge him, they should be going after a lot of others, but they're letting a lot of this slide.

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are you talking about the opne where he attacked a girl from behind and got his ass kicked for it?

No, I thought you were talking about the criminal record, but that's of another Kyle that's over 30 years old. What? Were you referring to this video about the girl? He's not even the initial one doing the fighting, and many are saying that was his sister.

So is it now the official stance of the right that a bad guy with a gun is allowed to claim self defense against a good guy with a gun? Because it looks like he shot two people that were trying to stop him after killing another person and fleeing the scene.

Manlet goes after him while he's walking with someone on the sidewalk. He tried finding him, and his crew eventually did. Kyle is the good guy here.


lol Why are you guys now so supportive of citizen's arrest over not knowing shit? Even for the guys claiming they're doing citizen's arrest, they still are trying to use lethal force to stop him. You better have good reason to go after him, and they clearly didn't. He tells Gaige he's going to the police, doesn't shoot anyone while running, and that dummy still listened to the mob who gave no context.


Citizens should not be emboldened to make arrests

The Ahmaud Arbery case in Georgia exposes that state laws giving citizens discretion to arrest others are both antiquated and dangerous. The perceived and real impunity such laws offer encourages vigilantism.

Seven centuries later, governments need to be sending a different message to concerned citizens: Call 911 and leave it to professionals.

 
I really want to see Trump go to Kenosha surrounded by hundreds of police and see that contrasted with Joe Biden going to Kenosha locking arms with the people in protest of police brutality.
 
Yes we would, bodycams can only help law enforcement better perform its duties because with accountability comes trust.

Many reasons. For one, our society still embraces and celebrates the fantasy of law abiding gun toting citizens forming posses and serving street justice. Local jurisdictions need to clamp down on the rioting and looting, which is inevitably going to draw in other opportunistic agitators, like organized crime and now right wing militias.

And even the greatest right wing agitator of them all, Donald Trump. Figure on him going balls deep into the Law & Order routine.
 
Even before this happened, Kyle's dream of becoming a police officer would probably never have happened.

The requirements to enlist in a police academy is a HS diploma, GED or in some cases some College is required. The school official knew little about Kyle because he was in HS for such a short time.
 
If it's what I think you're referring to, that's a different Kyle. Also, it doesn't matter because video shows basically everything that happened. Manlet sees Kyle as an easy target. Kyle goes away from the obviously aggressive man. Manlet tries to find him and eventually identifies him. He charges while Kyle is walking with someone else, and someone in their crew says, "Let's get him".
I love how right-wing authoritarians who support the murder of US citizens call other US citizens "manlet".

You're fucking disgusting.
 
I love how right-wing authoritarians who support the murder of US citizens call other US citizens "manlet".

You're fucking disgusting.

It's funny how the same people get triggered whenever someone points out that a rape victim doesn't have to go to a party, etc. Rapist has to change behavior, but the level 3 sex offender gets to run down people with rifles? How about both should be expected to change their behavior. You guys love defending thuggery whenever guns or blacks are involved.
 
It's funny how the same people get triggered whenever someone points out that a rape victim doesn't have to go to a party, etc. Rapist has to change behavior, but the level 3 sex offender gets to run down people with rifles? How about both should be expected to change their behavior. You guys love defending thuggery whenever guns or blacks are involved.
Nothing racist in that statement at all.

You're fucking disgusting.
 
Nothing racist in that statement at all.

You're fucking disgusting.

Go look at the mirror. You would be just like these Nottingham jurors.

https://www.scribd.com/document/49975432/Are-Juries-Fair-Research

"White jurors in a racially diverse area (Nottingham) appeared sensitive to cases involving inter-racial conflict. These jurors were significantly more likely to convict the White defendant when he was accused of assaulting a BME victim compared to a White victim. No similar trend was found with White jurors in Winchester.

Concerns about the appearance of jury fairness are likely to arise in courts where all-White juries try substantial numbers of BME defendants or try White defendants accused of racial crimes against BME victims."

"White jurors at Nottingham were significantly more likely to convict the White defendant when he was accused of assaulting a BME victim (61%) than when he was accused of assaulting a White victim (4%)."


Keep on, keepin' on, justice warrior. 😂
 
Go look at the mirror. You would be just like these Nottingham jurors.

https://www.scribd.com/document/49975432/Are-Juries-Fair-Research

"White jurors in a racially diverse area (Nottingham) appeared sensitive to cases involving inter-racial conflict. These jurors were significantly more likely to convict the White defendant when he was accused of assaulting a BME victim compared to a White victim. No similar trend was found with White jurors in Winchester.

Concerns about the appearance of jury fairness are likely to arise in courts where all-White juries try substantial numbers of BME defendants or try White defendants accused of racial crimes against BME victims."

"White jurors at Nottingham were significantly more likely to convict the White defendant when he was accused of assaulting a BME victim (61%) than when he was accused of assaulting a White victim (4%)."


Keep on, keepin' on, justice warrior. 😂
You're making fun of someone who was murdered on the street. You can quote irrelevant bullshit at me all day if it makes you feel better about yourself.

You're fucking disgusting.
 
You're making fun of someone who was murdered on the street. You can quote irrelevant bullshit at me all day if it makes you feel better about yourself.

You're fucking disgusting.

Irrelevant? You're the one who decided that somehow my statement was "racist". It didn't occur to you that I was referring to your very clear biases about race?

lol So because the attacker is unarmed (conveniently disregarding that physical contact means struggle for gun...), it's okay to let them tackle you and take your gun? That sex offender had no right to try to find Kyle and get physical.

Keep on, keepin' on, justice warrior. 😂
 
Irrelevant? You're the one who decided that somehow my statement was "racist". It didn't occur to you that I was referring to your very clear biases about race?

lol So because the attacker is unarmed (conveniently disregarding that physical contact means struggle for gun...), it's okay to let them tackle you and take your gun? That sex offender had no right to try to find Kyle and get physical.

Keep on, keepin' on, justice warrior. 😂
Yes, I am a justice warrior.

I am against children walking around with AR-15s on public streets to intimidate citizens, before killing them.

You're the one defending a child walking around with an AR-15 who kills citizens.

You're fucking disgusting. The only people on here who are cheering your argument on, are fucking disgusting too.

Nothing is as disgusting as someone who cheers on the killing of their fellow citizens.

Quote something else irrelevant at me, and then give yourself a high-five for being disgusting. You're totally elevating your reputation and credibility. So much winning.
 
Yes, I am a justice warrior.

I am against children walking around with AR-15s on public streets to intimidate citizens, before killing them.

You're the one defending a child walking around with an AR-15 who kills citizens.

You're fucking disgusting. The only people on here who are cheering your argument on, are fucking disgusting too.

Nothing is as disgusting as someone who cheers on the killing of their fellow citizens.

Quote something else irrelevant at me, and then give yourself a high-five for being disgusting. You're totally elevating your reputation and credibility. So much winning.

Keep on, keepin' on, justice warrior. 😂

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And even the greatest right wing agitator of them all, Donald Trump. Figure on him going balls deep into the Law & Order routine.
I expect we’ll start seeing the mayor of Portland and governor of Oregon suddenly gain a deep appreciation for law and order.
 
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