forensic could easily prove this
all they have to do is find deposits from the bullet on inside of the barrel on the other mans gun (assuming the officers bullet went that way)
forensic could easily prove this
all they have to do is find deposits from the bullet on inside of the barrel on the other mans gun (assuming the officers bullet went that way)
The round made it into the exposed chamber pushing the suspects round backwards. You can see the round compressed against the opening of the cylinder. Of course this is much more feasible than what most people were suggesting, that of being fired without impact down the barrel.
I've shot at a bundle of phonebooks with FMJ 9mm rounds, and after 4 books the bullet stopped penetrating. I remember that some of the bullets were in really good shape. I didn't take any measurements to see if they were bent out of shape in any way, but they looked pretty much intact.
Read the link. It didn't go into the barrel, it went into one of the CHAMBERS of the revolver. It would be a tight squeeze for the round, but it would fit.
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Does it matter? A suspect doesnt have to be pointing a gun at a policeman to be shot, if they are even holding a gun, they will probably get shot.... but I dont know the details of this instance, so it is hard to say who or what was justified.
Thats pretty far fetched but who knows. I wonder, wouldnt the bullet from his gun have nailed him if it was pushed backwards?
You can see where the round was impacted against the guard. Or the suspects rounds would fall out to begin with. 
i dont know but if they did this on purpose to plant evidence...who the hell would come up with this scenerio
its so outlandish hat i think ill believe it did happen...
so bob should we plant a gun and say he pointed it at us...
no lets fire a round into one of the chambers ..yeah thats it that is more believable!
its so outlandish hat i think ill believe it did happen...
so bob should we plant a gun and say he pointed it at us...
no lets fire a round into one of the chambers ..yeah thats it that is more believable!
Whee! Everyone on the cop-hating bandwagon! We're all going to sit around the campfire for a big circle-jerk later, so don't anyone think about falling off!
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If you look closely at the picture you can see where part of the cartridge in the side chamber is bent outwards from the impact.
Million to 1 shot.
Million to 1 shot.
And do what, run around trying to catch it bare-handed when it falls back to earth?
Even with out crosswinds, the earth still spins and a bullet fired straight up would still have to come back and be caught. They're not lethal on "re-entry" unless unreasonably extreme conditions are met, but it would still really f'in hurt to catch. It wouldn't penetrate the skull, but it would certainly still punch through flesh. It's not like you can put on your baseball glove and catch it or something The chamber directly right (if you were holding the gun) shows the chambered round disfigured and pushed out the back of the chamber. Click zoom.
I don't think people are catching that "chamber" is not "barrel" and thinking the officer's round went down the barrel of the pistol. It didn't. It landed itself into one of the other chambered rounds that are clearly visible from the front or back of any wheel gun.
What would you prefer? A cross-section of the chamber and 2 rounds? Jesus, people will bitch about anything.
Backfire, though? Like a squib? A squib would have done far more damage. You'd see much more damage to things like firing pin (if it's not completely blown off the hammer). In the picture shown, the only damage visible is the casing sticking out the back of one of the side chambers.
The bullets have to go somewhere don't they? Also if you're pointing a pistol at someone then it's going to be at the right angle for the bullet to enter. It doesn't have to go down the barrel, just lodge partially or fully in a chamber.
It's improbable yes, but not impossible at first glance.
It's improbable yes, but not impossible at first glance.
The bullet is made up of softer material than the cylinder of the revolver... If the bullet were to hit the front of the chamber from the front, the bullet could easily swage itself into the opening of the cylinder as described, even in a situation like this when the round fired is a larger caliber than the weapon that was hit. I am sure you are not going to pull out an intact .40 round, but a portion of it, and fragments of it were deflected into the suspect or continued past him or off into another direction.
I also know from first hand experience in structured force on force training, that when someone presents a handgun in a threating manner with the intent to shoot, the weapon is pretty much inline with that persons center of mass (which is generally the portion of a target you are trained to shoot at in an encounter), and obscures a fair amount of it depending on the distance. I have been hit many times in the knuckles and hand (hurts like hell) when going through numerous training scenarios, and its not hard for me to picture something like this happening at all.
I also know from first hand experience in structured force on force training, that when someone presents a handgun in a threating manner with the intent to shoot, the weapon is pretty much inline with that persons center of mass (which is generally the portion of a target you are trained to shoot at in an encounter), and obscures a fair amount of it depending on the distance. I have been hit many times in the knuckles and hand (hurts like hell) when going through numerous training scenarios, and its not hard for me to picture something like this happening at all.
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