Police Brutalized

[Alone]

Yes, keep justifying it. And I already said I didn't care for the ones that attacked him.

But your main focus is on the one cop who did wrong, not the dozens of civilians who suddenly thought beating the hell out of a person was a good idea.

 

[Ichinisan]

If you are supposed to uphold the law, you shouldn't abuse of it. Therefore, I am not sorry for them.

I contend that they did not violate the law and they were doing the best they could.

That's right: Even the one that jabbed with the baton.

If you look and try to understand what's happening, you can clearly SEE the restraint he exercised while using it. He jabbed, then paused to see if the perp would stop resisting. The perp didn't stop. He jabbed and paused again. The perp still didn't stop. He jabbed two more times. Paused. The perp still didn't stop. ...

If it was such a severe beating. THE PERP WOULD HAVE STOPPED RESISTING!

I'd say the baton was used as a "tool" more than a "weapon" in this case.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Yes, keep justifying it. And I already said I didn't care for the ones that attacked him.

Also, funny how I, a supposed "basement dweller", am living by myself in an apartment. We don't even have basements in this country, moron.

You probably don't have police, either.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

You probably don't have police, either.

Too bad they implement stupid laws against drugs. Pretty much the same as the US regarding the "justice system".

But you're an obvious troll, so I won't feed you further.

And I was focusing on the guy that got attacked because it seems like pretty much everyone in this thread only cares about justifying police brutality. If you're violent towards someone that didn't attack you, sometimes it comes back to bite you.

 

[Alone]

You're obviously the only troll here.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

You're obviously the only troll here.

Obviously, since I'm not the one kissing the police's ass every second I get.

 

[Ichinisan]

Bringing up one of your previous sarcastic remarks:

... I mean, look at what he did: he ran across the field with a flag and resisted arrest. Simply atrocious!!! ...

Yes. Resisting a justifiable arrest and making life harder for people *is* atrocious, IMO.

 

[CZroe]

They clearly were... if that includes kicking the guy several times and hitting him with a baton, even though he wasn't attacking them and was only resisting.

Kinda funny to see the hypocrisy of some people here. The moment someone does something to the police they start crying, but when it's the police doing it they turn the other cheek.

If they wouldn't have acted that way, the people wouldn't have done that. It was simply a matter of arresting the guy without kicking the crap out of him even though he didn't attack them.

LOL at your last sentence.

This is the TOTAL POLAR OPPOSITE of reality. Idiots like you line up on these forums with the police hate when the tables are reversed and I'm getting fucking tired of you ignorant self-righteous self-important know-it-all assholes.

You are so transparant when you give your reason for not being a cop. You're too pricipled to be principled.

 

[paulney]

Bringing up one of your previous sarcastic remarks:


Yes. Resisting a justifiable arrest and making life harder for people *is* atrocious, IMO.

Ok, now you are trolling as much as Alex. Calling this stunt atrocious and *possible* resist of arrest (I honestly think the rent-a-cop jabs him three times just because he's an asshole on a power trip) - that's retarded.

It was a stunt. Cops went out of line. Mob attacked.
Let this be a lesson for everyone.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

Bringing up one of your previous sarcastic remarks:


Yes. Resisting a justifiable arrest and making life harder for everyone *is* atrocious.

... sure.

But police brutality is just a-okay, right?

Resisting arrest (in a non-violent way, that is) is *hardly* atrocious, especially over something as stupid as this.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

This is the TOTAL POLAR OPPOSITE of reality. Idiots like you line up on these forums with the police hate when the tables are reversed and I'm getting fucking tired of you ignorant self-righteous self-important know-it-all assholes.

You are so transparant when you give your reason for not being a cop. You're too pricipled to be principled.

Caps lock: you're automatically cool now. Good job.

Also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

 

[CZroe]

Caps lock: you're automatically cool now. Good job.

Also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

Emphasizing does not equal caps lock. If it looks like I'm yelling, it's because I am.

Let me make it simple for you: You repeatedly imply that typical AT forumers rush to the defense of police any time police brutality is shown when I have observed exactly the opposite time and time again. Your statement is the opposite of reality.

 

[gaidensensei]

Got to acknowledge Axel isn't directly in the US or not under USA jurisdiction.
Police outside the Ammerika get beat up all the time, it's routine business.

 

[Ichinisan]

(I honestly think the rent-a-cop jabs him three times just because he's an asshole on a power trip)

THAT is delusional. Even a power-tripping asshole would know what to expect if he did what you imply.

You live in a cartoon world where villains are evil just because they enjoy being evil.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

Got to acknowledge Axel isn't directly in the US or not under USA jurisdiction.
Police outside the Ammerika get beat up all the time, it's routine business.

Wat.

The police here is pretty much the equivalent to that of the US, so no. Kinda expected when we're a US Commonwealth.

 

[gaidensensei]

Wat.

The police here is pretty much the equivalent to that of the US, so no. Kinda expected when we're a US Commonwealth.

Oh, my bad. I'da thought your police operations were independent from USA motives and motto, but I didn't know that.

I notice police beatings (where the police get beat) usually occur always outside of the states. In the USA, people don't really stand up against to fight the power. It might be a mentality thing.

 

[Ichinisan]

Mob mentality is a terrifying thing.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

Oh, my bad. I'da thought your police operations were independent from USA motives and motto, but I didn't know that.

I notice police beatings (where the police get beat) usually occur always outside of the states. In the USA, people don't really stand up against to fight the power. It might be a mentality thing.

There's currently an ongoing problem with the police over students protesting and taking control of the University of Puerto Rico due to them raising costs significantly, and there the police got their chance to wave their power dicks and hit several people (even though they didn't attack the police). One of them even dared to to "feel" a woman's breasts when she was in the police car due to being arrested. At least the students didn't give up, though the protests have kinda died down.

The story is pretty much the same apart from that exception, where the people kept protesting the power. The police still got their way, though.

 

[BabaBooey]

I love how his buddys ran and left him there to get a mud hole stomped in his ass....

The dick that was ramming his club in the guys ribs needed his ass stomped,punk ...:thumbsdown:

 

[Lash444]

Not to incite the trolls in here, but...

There were four security guards on the guy. Now maybe in the pile this guy pinched their nuts, or was biting them, i don't know. There is a higher probability that the guy just refused to give up his hands to be cuffed.

Now I realize this is in the heat of the moment, and clearly this guy wasn't making it easy for them. I would think four guys could handle it with some knees to the back and a little coercion. Legally these guys were probably within their rights to use a taser, pepper spray, baton, or whatever it took to get him to stop resisting...

It is LEOs and security's responsibility to decide what method is the most appropriate, and proper for the situation. Legal or not, the situation could have and should have been handled better. You are in front of thousands of people, and you start taking whacks at a fan with a baton. He put himself and the 3 other guys in mortal danger by escalating the situation.

Every situation is different. Just because the letter of the law states that a resisting suspect means you are allowed to use X,Y,Z to subdue them, doesn't mean you should. Is this not common sense?

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

The point is any kind of physical violence was unnecessary to begin with, and the cops are the ones who started it

Because you guys dont understand portuguese, I will translate it for you:
"He was just trying to say his family supports the portuguese referee"

(apparently this was an european competition, Im not sure)

THATS IT, he actually had good intentions, he just went about it the wrong way
Heck, I bet if the police had done nothing, the guy would have ran over the field and back to his sit

If he was carrying a weapon or something, it would be totally justified, but this?

 

[Taejin]

I think we can all agree:

the guy resisting didn't need to be assaulted with a baton, with four strong guys on him

the mob shouldnt have beaten that officer, they should have beaten the one using excessive force (ok some of you dont agree with mob justice, and neither do I, but if the mob is gonna do justice then the justice should be thinly justified)

 

[Maximilian]

Revolting against the police as a mob seems to be common outside the USA.
You see it in the news all the time in Indonesia, Taiwan, S. Korea, China (tiananmen, but still).
Weird how IN the US it's the other way around.

They dont have guns in europe, except at the airport. :thumbsup:

 

[Ichinisan]

... you start taking whacks at a fan with a baton. ...

"Taking whacks" mischaracterizes the action. Be realistic: They were controlled, restrained jabs. NOT "whacks." The way you say it, you'd think they were swinging the baton and striking him with full force.

I think we can all agree:

the guy resisting didn't need to be assaulted with a baton, with four strong guys on him

the mob shouldnt have beaten that officer, they should have beaten the one using excessive force (ok some of you dont agree with mob justice, and neither do I, but if the mob is gonna do justice then the justice should be thinly justified)

I say the force was NOT excessive.

 

[Jeeebus]

And I wouldn't join the police force because many of the laws I'd have to uphold are complete and utter bullshit, not to mention it's not really an intellectually demanding job.

Not sure it's been asked yet, but which RBM is LOL_Wut? It's getting confusing trying to keep track of all of them these days.

Also, for shits and giggles, what exactly do you do in San Juan that is sufficiently intellectually demanding? I'm going to give you a few minutes to come up with something other than "live in my parents' basement" or "sell trinkets to people getting off the cruise ship."