Police Apologize, Drop Charge Vs. Sheehan

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: zendari

Yup, I'm sure hes bothering with cindy sheehan right as he's making his speech.

What else did he have to be worried about? It's not like he wrote the friggin' thing!

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: RichardE
Oh i don't know..all the people quoted as saying they were told before going in what was expected of them, and what they could or could not do.

Then that darned First Amendment gets in the way, and all sorts of tacky fine expectations fall away. I respect Sheehan's opinon more than that asshat moron who gave the speech, last night.

The classic example of a realistic limit on free speech is shouting "Fire!" in a theater. Guess she forgot her matches.

Of course the police apologized, they had too, they were getting a PR backlash.

Thanks for your OPINION. Of course, you're welcome to it, and shock of shock, nobody's going to arrest you for dangling it, here.

It was a fire..see the way she was making Bush sweat

In all fairness, I support her cause, but I don't support her trying to turn a SOTU speech into press time for her. In all fairness she was warned before she went in, and broke the rules. She deserved what happened to her.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: zendari

Yup, I'm sure hes bothering with cindy sheehan right as he's making his speech.

What else did he have to be worried about? It's not like he wrote the friggin' thing!

Presentation. Vocal projection. The man still has to read it.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: RichardE

In all fairness, I support her cause, but I don't support her trying to turn a SOTU speech into press time for her. In all fairness she was warned before she went in, and broke the rules. She deserved what happened to her.

I blame her less than the Senator who invited her. The whole thing was obviously a publicity stunt, and it had the desired effect. IMO she is a bit of a wacko whose 15 minutes should have been long since over, but yet again she makes President Bush look weak.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: zendari

Presentation. Vocal projection. The man still has to read it.

What do you think he was doing before he went in, vocal drills? You wouldn't know it by his performance!

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: jlmadyson

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: RichardE
Freedom of speech is not absolute...

That might be, but in this case, the officer appeared to be wrong.

Bush administration trying to silence their critics....like they have tried so many times before.

Yep, George Bush might as well have arrested the two himself. Try to get the facts before spewing left wing propaganda.

Police chief blames vague policies for women's ouster from Capitol

WASHINGTON - Faced with a bipartisan furor, the chief of the Capitol Police on Wednesday apologized for ejecting anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan and the wife of an influential Republican congressman from the State of the Union address and blamed vague policies for the actions of his officers. "The officers made a good faith, but mistaken effort to enforce an old unwritten interpretation of the prohibitions about demonstrating in the Capitol. The policy and procedures were too vague," Capitol Police Chief Terrance W. Gainer said. "The failure to adequately prepare the officers is mine."

Ordered mistake.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: RichardE
Freedom of speech is not absolute...

That might be, but in this case, the officer appeared to be wrong.

Bush administration trying to silence their critics....like they have tried so many times before.

Yup, I'm sure hes bothering with cindy sheehan right as he's making his speech.

He knew about it before he started his speech.

How about you change your subtitle of the Sheenan arrest thread away from "Criminals" since she is now NOT a criminal, or are you just going to leave it like the Leadership race (Delay) thread?

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: zendari

Presentation. Vocal projection. The man still has to read it.

What do you think he was doing before he went in, vocal drills? You wouldn't know it by his performance!

Before the state of the union he was involved in Sam Alito's confirmation and oath.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: RichardE
Freedom of speech is not absolute...

That might be, but in this case, the officer appeared to be wrong.

Bush administration trying to silence their critics....like they have tried so many times before.

Yup, I'm sure hes bothering with cindy sheehan right as he's making his speech.

He knew about it before he started his speech.

How about you change your subtitle of the Sheenan arrest thread away from "Criminals" since she is now NOT a criminal, or are you just going to leave it like the Leadership race (Delay) thread?

The news broke on CNN shortly after 9 PM, after the speech had began.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: zendari

Presentation. Vocal projection. The man still has to read it.

What do you think he was doing before he went in, vocal drills? You wouldn't know it by his performance!

Before the state of the union he was involved in Sam Alito's confirmation and oath.

So Bush had absolutely no time to tell anyone to get Sheehan out? I guess he's may not be as obsessed with her as you are then! :laugh:

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Engineer

How about you change your subtitle of the Sheenan arrest thread away from "Criminals" since she is now NOT a criminal, or are you just going to leave it like the Leadership race (Delay) thread?

Good luck on that! When GeneralGrievous trolls, it stays trolled!

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: zendari
The news broke on CNN shortly after 9 PM, after the speech had began.

So CNN knew about it before Bush did? LOL if you really believe that!!!

Funny, Whoozerdaddy knew about it as early as 7:52! :laugh:

and the news story in the link he posted was posted at 3:22PM!!! Buwhahahahah!

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: zendari

Presentation. Vocal projection. The man still has to read it.

What do you think he was doing before he went in, vocal drills? You wouldn't know it by his performance!

Before the state of the union he was involved in Sam Alito's confirmation and oath.

So Bush had absolutely no time to tell anyone to get Sheehan out? I guess he's may not be as obsessed with her as you are then! :laugh:

No, I don't think he is.

 

[jrenz]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: RichardE
Oh i don't know..all the people quoted as saying they were told before going in what was expected of them, and what they could or could not do.

Then that darned First Amendment gets in the way, and all sorts of tacky fine expectations fall away.

Not that she did break any rules, but the first Amendment is NOT absolute inside Capitol buildings and on capitol grounds. It hasn't been since 1947.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Originally posted by: jlmadyson
Police chief blames vague policies for women's ouster from Capitol

Speaking of vague

WASHINGTON ? A new provision tucked into the Patriot Act bill now before Congress would allow authorities to haul demonstrators at any "special event of national significance" away to jail on felony charges if they are caught breaching a security perimeter.

"It concerns me greatly," said Bob Barr, former U.S. prosecutor and Republican representative from Georgia. "It clearly raises serious concerns about First Amendment rights."

New Patriot Act Provision Creates Tighter Barrier to Officials at Public Events

 

[LunarRay]

Well.... you won't have Dick Nixon to kick around after 2008 ... I mean Bush. Gee they are so much alike it is easy to mix them up. But, Bush wouldn't have known or cared bout Sheehan he has a Staff to handle every little thing for him and all sorts of advance people jotting down any little thing and deciding what to have done. Bush, like most Presidents bothers himself with the big issues.. He read Peter Drucker...

 

[GroundedSailor]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
This was not the first time a poteintial rabble rouser has been removed from the gallery for a SOTUA. It won't be the last. I don't know why anyone has to make a big deal about it.

Although to be honest, the camera shots of her that would have been periodically flashed up on screen would have been priceless.

She should have just sat quietly - that would have made the best statement.

It is very obvious the the right wanted her out of there for the very same reason. Well they got their way. It's a case of going for the lesser evil. It's easier to fight a 1st amendment battle afterwards than the priceless camera pans during the speech.

Dumb actions on both sides.

 

[Genx87]

I am more interested in her bid to take our Feinstein. Sh1t this loon could make things interesting if she manages to sway the sympathy vote and knock out a democrat in the process lmao.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: Genx87
I am more interested in her bid to take our Feinstein. Sh1t this loon could make things interesting if she manages to sway the sympathy vote and knock out a democrat in the process lmao.

I'd leave California if we elect Sheehan.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Genx87
I am more interested in her bid to take our Feinstein. Sh1t this loon could make things interesting if she manages to sway the sympathy vote and knock out a democrat in the process lmao.

Your living in lala land if you really believe that because people agree with her about the right to ptotest about the Iraqi war means that they would vote for her.

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: zendari

Yup, I'm sure hes bothering with cindy sheehan right as he's making his speech.

What else did he have to be worried about? It's not like he wrote the friggin' thing!

Presentation. Vocal projection. The man still has to read it.

And to be fair, that does take all the concentration he can muster.

 

[phantom309]

Originally posted by: LunarRay
Well.... you won't have Dick Nixon to kick around after 2008 ... I mean Bush. Gee they are so much alike it is easy to mix them up....

Nixon was a much more effective president than Bush.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Originally posted by: phantom309

Originally posted by: LunarRay
Well.... you won't have Dick Nixon to kick around after 2008 ... I mean Bush. Gee they are so much alike it is easy to mix them up....

Nixon was a much more effective president than Bush.

My gecko has crapped out more qualified presidential material than dubya

 

[outriding]

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: phantom309

Originally posted by: LunarRay
Well.... you won't have Dick Nixon to kick around after 2008 ... I mean Bush. Gee they are so much alike it is easy to mix them up....

Nixon was a much more effective president than Bush.

My gecko has crapped out more qualified presidential material than dubya

QFT

And it is probably smarter than dubya