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PM'ing at BestBuy might get you arrested

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<< Oh, I am sorry maybe the dictonary and law say something else. >>


I hope you are being sarcastic there. The law and dictionary never agree on anything. See, I actually looked up the law, as opposed to looking in a dictionary, and the law states that a person under detention can be removed from the location if the officers deem it necessary. Again, in this case, the officers placed him under arrest, and it would have been unusual in this case for them to move the detention to the police station (that would be more common for someone under detention at a crime scene, and the officers want to remove the person from the crime scene for questioning). Quote as many dictionaries as you like, but until you can quote legal precedence, take your mightier-than-thou attitude elsewhere.
 
Okay, I missed something in the original post. However, being placed into handcuffs and taken to the station does not mean you are under arrest. Being under arrest means the cops said, "You are under arrest". As in the original story, he did state:

Hey he did'nt commit fraud unless he said he commited fraud right? Dude just becasue someone says somthing or not deos'nt make it so.

It's your actions that matter. The police arrested him and the manager maybe did also depending if the suspect was cohearsed into staying by a heavy waiting nearby.
 


<< so does this arrest go on your permanent record??? >>



No, but his mugshot and fingerprints will :Q


He sounds a bit racist to me as well, probably did not help his argument much at the time. I have to think about Chris Rocks video about "how not to get your ass beat by the cops" when I read this story.

"Yo motherfvcker!! WTF do you want!!!"

LMAO
 
bozo1 = ex-cop

Laws are different in different states, but for the most part:

You can be handcuffed without being arrested. This is very common when an officer is investigating an incident and doesn't have a grasp of what is going on, who the bad guy is, etc. This is done for the officers protection. It is also very common to cuff someone when you are transporting them to the station for questioning even if they are not under arrest. Again, this is for the officers protection.
You can be detained without being arrested up to a set amount of time.
You can be arrested without being charged up to a set amount of time.
Once charged you have to be arrained and/or given a chance to post bail within a set amount of time.

You can be arrested and released without being booked. Booking happens when you are turned over to the jailers.

What goes on your 'record' depends entirely on the jurisdiction. Most felony charges go on the FBI's NCIC computer, regardless of whether you were convicted, found innocent, charges dropped, etc. Misdemeanor charges/convictions normally do not go into NCIC.

Some states/localities only keep records of misdemeanor charges if you are actually convicted, some keep track of it if you were charged regardless of the disposition of the case. Some keep track of everything - arrests, charges, convictions.

/rant off


 


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<< How would it be fraud? All he was doing was showing that another Best Buy honored the price. >>

If it was fake, it's fraud. Who's to say he didn't Photoshop it and bring it in? >>




<< gee sounds like he tried to comit fraud to me. Granted arresting him was a little much but they had stated they already had a few people try it already so they were a little upset. >>




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<< He was removed from the store because BB said he was attempting fraud yet he was not attempting fraud. BB should have done their homework and been 100% sure they are committing fraud before accusing someone one it. I imagine they found out the receipts were real and then changed their story, but thats just speculation. >>

Unless someone shows me an actual, real life receipt, all of those are fraud. It's the Internet, so I tend to take everything with a grain of salt. >>



You guys are all missing the point. Go read up on http://hypothermia.gamershardware.com/articles/bestbuy_gf4deal.html

The SAME manager pricematched that very card in this very situation a few days earlier. Is he calling his OWN receipt that he himself signed a forgery? There are a bunch of receipts on that site, and you can see them all. They are not forgeries, or edited. I've bought things at best buy myself, and you can easily see what the receipts look like. The other day I used a raincheck for a game there, and the receipt I got was exactly like the ones shown. If you want to see a real life receipt, go ahead and get one 🙂
 


<< I guess ever thread now days must talk about racists from the South. Most notably alabama. >>



Let's not talk about the crappy high schools of the South.
 
I think taking him in was stupid, but anybody with a brain is not going to pricematch based on internet print outs. That would just be plain stupid. Real reciepts would have been much better. If he tried to pass his printouts off as real then he should be busted, but otherwise he got screwed.

I'm guessing that when he says, "I was polite at all times and I asked him whether he though the receipt was fake," he was actually being a little belligerent or an a$$hole. When people start defending themselves in this manner I usually see it as people trying to convince others of their attitude and even themselves, when in actuality they knew it not to be true. I'm sure he was kind of an a$$ and him saying, "but I kept my head high and I was smiling" shows this too.

Anyway, I don't really care, Best Buy screwed up, like everyone does, and all these internet people are trying to take advantage of it. I'm sure they are sick of it.
 


<< Upon my arrival, I spoke with complainant Rod Hill (General Manager) who stated that unknown indian malee in the store with a website generated receipt to purchase a $399 item for the price of $129.99. Mr. Hill advised that the computer generated receipt was false because BestBuy.com receipt for the GeForce4 Ti 4600 is on the internet for price of $399, and has been never listed for $129.99. Mr. Hill also stated that 5 other people have come in with these same receipts for 129.99 and it has been placed in BestBuy system as a red flag. >>





Noticed this guy mentioned Indian AND male? Its racism mixed with sexual discrimination!!!
 
So the GM approved a PM 10 days earlier, then found out that it was a mistake and lost $270 so they red flag the product so no one else gets it at that price. The GM probably had the money taken out of his check and was pissed so he took it out on this guy that also came in to PM.

I don't know why people on here are saying it is fraud to bring in a copy of a receipt, in the Hot Deals forum people are posting scans of receipts all the time so others can try and get the same price at their store.
 
I doubt this guy is telling the whole story, but BB is known to have their fair share of idiots and morons in high places.. Anyone remember the Black Friday sale and how the ads were leaked? When we went back to pricematch, the Customer Service people DID NOT believe that the stuff in the ad was a REGULAR WEEKLY sale.. Of course, when I asked them for their names they covered up their nametags. Of course they just say the manager said not to do this pricematch and my dad used some vulgar words, walked out of the store swearing very loudly, we left, called their 1-800 # and talked to a Service Rep. She said she'd give us the prices after rebate w/ no rebate trouble. So that Service Rep talked to the manager at the local BB, we talked to that manager, and then went in the next day and ended up getting that GF3 for $100 🙂
-- mrcodedude
 
What blows my mind is that this is the same Best Buy I go to at lunch time. It is 5 minutes from my office.

Unbelievable. I want to go into Best Buy and give that ass a piece of my mind. I just may.
 


<< I don't know why people on here are saying it is fraud to bring in a copy of a receipt, >>

I didn't know so many people were so unaware of Photoshop.
rolleye.gif
 
So when I send in a copy of my receipt for a mail in rebate is that also fraud?

or a coupon that I printed, since it could also have been made in Photoshop?
 
I do not believe this story for one second; either it is completely made up or this guy is telling only half the truth. I seriously doubt that a Store Manager would call the cops unless this guy was causing some sort of trouble. Of course, I would not expect this dude to admit that "maybe" he behaved inappropriately. Ah, this stupid "victim" menthality, will it ever go away? Frivolous lawsuites will soon replace baseball as America's favorite pastime, mark my words.
 


<< Incident reports are NOT arrests............just incident reports. Nowhere does it state anyone was arrested, apoppin. >>



Open your eyes and read before replying . . . it says "ARREST" in capital letters at the very top of the report.
 
I do not believe this story either. Nobody will get arrested by just trying to pricematch with fraudelent receipt.

I'm more than sure that the guy who's telling this story caused a pretty good scene in the store and didn't want to leave until BB will sell him a video card. BestBuy's managers and employees are not going to fight with customers, they simply will call cops to settle the matter. Certain people just don't understand word "No" either because of their mentality or because they don't believe in "if it's too good to be true, it probably is". For goodness sake, all he has to do is to work couple extra hours and pay for that stupid video card if is he is so desperate to have latest and greatest. This guy was trying to fool BestBuy, but got fooled himself at the end. That's what people like him deserve!
 
I do believe this story happened. But I don't believe it happened exactly the way the gentleman who was detained with handcuffs relates it.

Regardless of how calm he sounded in his description of what happened, he was probably a little freaked out. And it is *very* difficult for someone to recount a story exactly as it happened.

His perception of being "polite" and "calm" may not be how the BB Managers believed he was behaving. There have been a few times when I was dealing with someone at a store and I thought I was extremely nice. Various people who were with me said "boy, you were an a$$ to that guy, rude, etc."

Anyway, the whole situation sucks. And I hate to say it but (as someone else said) the General Manager probably did lose money out of his paycheck for doing that pricematch. And he probably was upset about it. So when this "Indian Male" comes in, the GM was probably thinking "I'm going to put a stop to this whole mess RIGHT NOW and get on the good graces of my superiors by making an example of this guy."

I hope the media gets a hold of this, make Best Buy look VERY foolish, and that GM gets fired. He did not behave appropriately. I believe he allowed his own personal motives to get in the way of what should have happened. Changing the reason for detainment at the last minute was a huge cry of "oops!"
 
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