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conjur

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The Propagandist tonight:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/04/20050428-9.html
. I believe we're making really good progress in Iraq, because the Iraqi people are beginning to see the benefits of a free society.

The reality:

17 die in Iraq violence
http://jang.com.pk/thenews/apr2005-daily/29-04-2005/main/main12.htm
At least 17 Iraqis were killed in fresh violence across the country on Thursday. A major general who worked as an intelligence adviser in the interior ministry was killed on his way to work in Baghdad and a police lieutenant colonel was shot dead


Updated info:
Bombers Hit Iraqi Forces, Kill 24
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050429/wl_nm/iraq_dc
 

conjur

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Iraq Attacks Kill at Least 41; 3 GIs Die
At least 11 car bombs exploded in and around Baghdad on Friday
http://apnews.excite.com/article/20050429/D89P7AB81.html
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - Insurgents unleashed a series of car bombings and other attacks across Iraq on Friday, killing at least 41 people, including three U.S. soldiers, and wounding dozens of people a day after the country's first democratically elected government was approved.

Iraq's most-wanted terrorist, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, purportedly threatened more violence in an audiotape on the Internet, warning President Bush the insurgents "will not rest until we avenge our dignity."

At least 11 car bombs exploded in and around Baghdad on Friday, including four suicide attacks in quick succession in the Azamiyah section of central Baghdad.

The first one hit an Iraqi army patrol, the second a police patrol and the third and fourth at separate barricades near the headquarters of the police special forces unit, police chief Brig. Gen. Khalid al-Hassan said. Col. Hussein Mutlak said those attacks killed at least 20 Iraqis, including 15 soldiers and five civilians. At least 65 were injured, including 30 troops and 35 civilians, he said.
From our Propagandist:
I believe we're making really good progress in Iraq, because the Iraqi people are beginning to see the benefits of a free society.
From Gen. Myers:
"Almost any indicator you look at, the trends are up," Gen. Myers said. "So we're definitely winning."
Yes, folks. This administration has us living in Bizarro World!
 

conjur

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17 bombs now!

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBORR6X48E.html
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - Insurgents set off at least 17 bombs in Iraq on Friday, killing at least 50 people, including three U.S. soldiers, in a series of attacks aimed at shaking Iraq's newly formed government. An audio tape by one of America's most-wanted insurgents, Abu-Musab al-Zarqawi, warned President Bush there was more bloodshed to come.

Damn.
 

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Originally posted by: conjur
17 bombs now!

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBORR6X48E.html
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - Insurgents set off at least 17 bombs in Iraq on Friday, killing at least 50 people, including three U.S. soldiers, in a series of attacks aimed at shaking Iraq's newly formed government. An audio tape by one of America's most-wanted insurgents, Abu-Musab al-Zarqawi, warned President Bush there was more bloodshed to come.

Damn.

This invasion and occupation was a mistake based on lies right from the start.

Bring the troops home now before we lose more of them. Iraq has had its election. Let them decide their future. The U.S. military occupation of Iraq is fueling the insurgency.

We've lost almost 1,600 troops in Iraq now. They are paying the ultimate price for Bush's lies. But we havent' lost one of the sissyhawks who insisted on this unprovoked attack.

When will they pay the price for their lies? When will America WTFU and demand accountability?

Ask yourselves honestly people, what were the reasons we were given for invading Iraq? And now that we know those reasons were all lies was it worth it? Would you have supported Bush's unprovoked invasion of Iraq if you knew the facts in March 2003?

Then why does anyone support him now?

Four U.S. Soldiers Killed in Iraq Bomb

By THOMAS WAGNER, Associated Press Writer Sat Apr 30, 5:18 AM ET

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Four U.S. soldiers were killed and two wounded by a roadside bomb near the Syrian border, and four American soldiers were injured when their Humvee crashed during a nighttime operation west of Baghdad, the U.S. military announced on Saturday.

The roadside bomb attack in northwestern Iraq on Thursday targeted a Task Force Freedom convoy in Tal Afar city, about 93 miles east of the Syrian border, the military said on Saturday.

It was not clear why the military had postponed announcing these casualties, although such delays are common and officials say they allow relatives to be notified before news of deaths from a particular unit appear in the media.

Also Saturday, the military said four U.S. soldiers in a convoy were injured when their Humvee rolled into a ditch late Friday night near Abu Ghraib prison, west of Baghdad.

As of Friday, at least 1,575 members of the U.S. military have died since the beginning of the Iraq war in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count. At least 1,199 died as a result of hostile action, according to the U.S. Defense Department.

Elsewhere on Saturday, Iraq's immediate neighbors plus Egypt met in Turkey to praise the formation of Iraq's new government.

Officials from Jordan, Syria, Kuwait, Iran, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Egypt were expected to stress the need for security on Iraq's borders and welcome international support for development in their talks.

The military's announcements of the bombing and rollover accident followed a day of insurgent attacks violent even by Iraqi standards.

Militants set off at least 17 bombs in Iraq on Friday, killing at least 50 people, including three U.S. soldiers, in a series of attacks aimed at shaking Iraq's newly formed government, which takes office on Tuesday.

Amid the carnage, an audio tape by one of America's most-wanted insurgents, Abu-Musab al-Zarqawi, warned President Bush there was more bloodshed to come. In Washington, an intelligence official said the tape appeared to be genuine.

"You, Bush, we will not rest until we avenge our dignity," al-Zarqawi said in the audiotape that was posted on the Internet Friday. "We will not rest while your army is here as long as there is a pulse in our veins."

In separate statements, posted on a Web site known for its militant content, al-Zarqawi's al-Qaida in Iraq group claimed responsibility for two of Friday's most deadly assaults ? four suicide car bombings in one Baghdad neighborhood and four more bombings in Madain, south of the capital. The claims could not be verified.

Despite Friday's bloody toll, the U.S. military maintained that attacks are diminishing overall in Iraq.

"We see these attacks as another desperate attempt by the terrorists to discredit the newly formed Iraqi government" and "drive a wedge between the Iraqi people and their right to choose their own destiny," the military said in a statement Friday.

 

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Iraq's majority Sunni neighbors meet to discuss the region's stability. Their concerns could very well lead to wider conflict.

Iraq Neighbors Fear Tension Will Spread

By LOUIS MEIXLER, Associated Press Writer

ISTANBUL, Turkey - Fears that the ethnic tensions and violence in Iraq will spread beyond its borders brought foreign ministers from neighboring countries to Turkey for talks on Saturday.

Turkey's prime minister opened the conference in a former Ottoman palace saying Iraq's stability is "not solely the concern of the Iraqis but ours as well." Jordan, Syria, Kuwait,
Iran, Turkey and Saudi Arabia were represented as was Egypt.

The foreign ministers were discussing the dearth of Sunni Muslims in Iraq's new government and Iran's growing influence in Iraq. Iraq's neighbors are overwhelmingly Sunni Muslim, except for Iran, where most people are Shiite Muslims, as in Iraq.

"Iraq cannot be a place where one entity prevails over the others, nor can it be a place divided up as desired," Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said as he opened the conference in Dolmabahce Palace.

"Such attempts will meet the reaction of the countries of the region and the international community," he said.

"It is essential that the government is fully representative," he added.

Turkey, Iran and Syria, which have substantial Kurdish populations, are also deeply concerned by the growing power of Iraqi Kurds. They fear Kurds could break away to establish their own state, which could stoke similar aspirations among Kurds in the neighboring countries.

That concern is especially strong in Turkey, which has been battling Turkish Kurdish rebels in its own southeast since 1984, a fight that has left 37,000 dead.

The Iraqi presidency and foreign ministry are held by Iraqi Kurds.

Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari dismissed those concerns.

"They shouldn't worry about it," he said in a telephone interview before arriving for the meeting. "They are not Shiites or Kurds, they are Iraqis. They are building a unified Iraq."

He added that "we have a shared and common interest with our neighbors to improve regional cooperation. We also need our neighbors to support the new government and to support the stability in Iraq to help Iraq overcome its problems."

Zebari said Iraq wants the neighbors to work together to help prevent cross-border infiltration and to reduce Iraqi debts.

U.S. military officials have repeatedly said that insurgents are crossing into Iraq from the Syrian and possibly the Iranian borders.

The foreign ministers are expected to approve a statement expressing support for the new government, stressing Iraq's territorial integrity and welcoming international support for the country's development.

Reflecting Sunni concerns over a loss of power, a top Islamic scholar in Iraq ? currently in Istanbul ? dismissed the idea that the government will bring stability.

"We don't believe that the government will solve the problems of an occupied Iraq. We don't trust the government," Harith al-Dhari, head of the Association of Muslim Scholars, who was in Istanbul attending a separate conference, told the Anatolia news agency. "We don't see hope because the occupation is continuing."

 

conjur

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Insurgents Kill 17 Iraqis, U.S. Soldier
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/w-me/2005/apr/30/043001570.html
0430iraq Insurgents unleashed a second day of deadly bombings in Iraq's capital and beyond Saturday, staging a series of carefully coordinated and increasingly sophisticated assaults that killed at least 65 over two days and appeared timed to deflate hopes in Washington and Baghdad that the installation of the nation's first democratically elected government would curb spiking violence.

At least 17 Iraqis and one U.S. soldier were killed in the bloodletting Saturday. The military also announced that six other U.S. soldiers had been killed and six wounded in Iraq since Thursday.

A US military commander said on the news tonight that the US was winning. That the insurgents were desperate and had to resort to larger and more deadly attacks to get attention (or something to that effect.) Do these fvcking idiots actually listen to what they're saying???? :|
 

conjur

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Four U.S. Soldiers Killed by Iraq Car Bomb
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/w-me/2005/apr/30/043001287.html
The U.S. military also said four U.S. soldiers were killed and two wounded Thursday when a Task Force Freedom convoy was hit by a roadside bomb in Tal Afar city, 90 miles east of the Syrian border, the military said in a brief statement. It did not explain why the casualties were not announced earlier.

Elsewhere, four U.S. soldiers in a convoy were wounded when their Humvee rolled into a ditch late Friday night near Abu Ghraib prison, west of Baghdad, the U.S. military said Saturday.

The names of the soldiers were being withheld pending notification of relatives. At least 1,579 members of the U.S. military have died since the Iraq war started in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count.

Who's winning again???
 

BBond

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Plenty of trouble afoot in Iraq from Custer Battles alone.

This is really a disgrace. Is there any accountability left?

U.S. contracting firm accused of bilking millions and running wild in Iraq

Saturday April 30, 2005
By DEBORAH HASTINGS
AP National Writer

His career in Baghdad was brief. And it ended badly.

On a blistering July afternoon, three MP5 submachine guns were pointed at Robert Isakson. The men carrying the weapons wanted his money and his security pass.

As Isakson tells it, they also wanted his guns, leaving him unarmed in a mess of a country and banned from its safest haven.

``We were defenseless,'' says the former cop and FBI agent. He had come to Iraq to help rebuild the devastated country, accompanied by his 14-year-old son, Bobby. Now, after less than a month, they were being expelled at gunpoint.

By Americans.

The gunmen and Isakson all worked for Custer Battles LLC, a Rhode Island-based contracting firm now mired in lawsuits and a criminal investigation by the Pentagon. Isakson claims company employees ordered him out because he refused to help defraud the U.S. government.

It is one allegation on a long list.

Custer Battles security guards have also been accused of firing at unarmed civilians. They have been accused of crushing a car filled with Iraqi children and adults. They have been accused of unleashing a hail of bullets in a Baghdad hotel, only to discover, when the dust literally settled, that they had been shooting at each other.

The company is under investigation by the Department of Defense for allegedly overcharging the government millions by making up invoices for work never done, equipment never received, and guards who didn't exist.

In September 2004, the company was banned from receiving government contracts after Air Force investigators determined it ``conspired to defraud the CPA,'' the Coalition Provisional Authority.

Isakson and William ``Pete'' Baldwin, the former Iraq country manager for Custer Battles, filed a federal whistle-blower suit last year, accusing the company of war profiteering and defrauding the government of at least $50 million.

The company rejects those claims. ``Custer Battles strongly denies that any of its corporate management or officers knowingly engaged in any improper conduct,'' the firm said, responding to a list of detailed questions e-mailed by The Associated Press. The suit, it says, is the work of disgruntled employees.

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Scott Custer and Michael Battles got their first government contract by sheer bravado. Sure, they could provide armed guards and security screeners at Baghdad International Airport. Absolutely, they could transport equipment and vehicles there. Sure, they could do it all in three weeks.

No matter that they had no experience. No matter that other established Pentagon contractors said the deadline was impossible. No matter that this was Iraq, just after the devastated country had fallen to invading coalition forces.

But the CPA, mandated to run Iraq on an interim basis, wanted the airport open pronto.

Calling themselves Custer Battles, the ex-Army Rangers formed a limited liability corporation before the invasion and let it be known in Washington, D.C., that they were looking to snap up rebuilding contracts.

Battles, who ran unsuccessfully for Congress in 2002 as a Rhode Island Republican, was a former CIA case worker who claimed White House connections.

Mutual friends introduced the entrepreneurs to Isakson, an Alabama businessman specializing in wartime and disaster-relief contracts. But less than a month after securing the $16.8 million airport contract, Isakson says he was forced to leave.

Custer Battles is one of at least 60 private firms, collectively employing more than 20,000, living in a war zone. They have their own arms, their own vehicles, their own body armor. Some even have their own helicopters. Their security ranks include an assortment of aging warriors who believe they can still laugh at death.

At its apex, Custer Battles employed more than 700 people in Iraq working on projects worth at least $100 million.

But Custer Battles gained a certain reputation in Iraq.

``Probably as gunslingers,'' a retired lieutenant colonel working for the firm told Chicago public radio last year. For security reasons, he gave his name only as Hank.

He described a Baghdad hotel gunfight that erupted not long after Custer Battles security agents landed. It was started by a rocket-propelled grenade attack. When the smoke cleared, the guards who'd leaned out windows and fired more than 3,000 rounds in the middle of a residential neighborhood realized they had been shooting at each other.

Earlier this year, four former employees, all military veterans, said they quit after witnessing Custer Battles security escorts shooting indiscriminately at civilians, including gunning down a teenager walking along a road. The men also said guards in a truck drove over a car containing children and adulns and other property.

Isakson said he hightailed it across northern Iraq to Jordan, driving his SUV at 120 mph.

The company denies the allegations, and says Isakson's decision to leave was his own.

Baldwin, in a phone interview from Iraq, said he went to military officials in November 2003 and said, ``There's a problem here.''

He told Defense Criminal Investigation Service officials that Custer Battles was using forged and fake invoices, and was billing the coalition for services it never provided, including a nonexistent security detail for the caravan that got lost.

Since then, Baldwin said he has been interviewed by FBI agents and DCIS investigators, who are conducting a joint investigation of the company. The Pentagon and the FBI declined comment.

The Air Force memo states Custer Battles ``fraudulently increased profits by inflating its claimed costs.''

It cites a spreadsheet entitled accidentally left behind by Custer Battles employees after a tense meeting with CPA officials who were questioning the firm's invoices.

The spreadsheet showed Custer Battles had charged more than $9.8 million for work that actually cost the company about $3.7 million a markup of more than 162 percent when the maximum allowed profit was 25 percent, the memo said.

The spreadsheet also noted a December 2003 invoice charging the coalition $157,000 for building a helicopter pad in the northern Iraqi city of Mosul. The actual cost to Custer Battles was $95,000.

An astounding allegation in the whistle-blowers' suit says Custer Battles took forklifts abandoned by Iraqi Airways, painted them to cover the airline's name, and then charged the coalition thousands of dollars on fake invoices, claiming it was ``leasing'' the equipment.

Franklin Willis, a senior official with the CPA, testified in February before a U.S. Senate committee investigating waste and inefficiency during the coalition's 13-month existence. He used Custer Battles as an example of both.

He described Iraq as the ``Wild West,'' a place where cash and chaos were everywhere. More than $3 billion in new, shrink-wrapped $100 bills had been confiscated by coalition forces. It was stored in a vault in the basement of coalition headquarters, Willis said.

The money was simply handed out to eager contractors converging on Baghdad. ``We called Mike Battles in and said, 'Bring a bag,''' Willis told the senators. Coalition officials filled a duffel with $2 million, which Custer Battles used as startup capital for the airport contract.

Willis, who served in the state and the transportation departments under President Reagan, worked for the CPA as an aviation and communications adviser. For security reasons, the airport never accepted scheduled civilian traffic during the life of the CPA.

``Custer Battles interpreted their obligations solely by themselves and continued collecting on the $16 million,'' Willis testified, even though ``the reason for the Custer Battles contract had disappeared.''

 

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Originally posted by: conjur
Four U.S. Soldiers Killed by Iraq Car Bomb
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/w-me/2005/apr/30/043001287.html
The U.S. military also said four U.S. soldiers were killed and two wounded Thursday when a Task Force Freedom convoy was hit by a roadside bomb in Tal Afar city, 90 miles east of the Syrian border, the military said in a brief statement. It did not explain why the casualties were not announced earlier.

Elsewhere, four U.S. soldiers in a convoy were wounded when their Humvee rolled into a ditch late Friday night near Abu Ghraib prison, west of Baghdad, the U.S. military said Saturday.

The names of the soldiers were being withheld pending notification of relatives. At least 1,579 members of the U.S. military have died since the Iraq war started in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count.

Who's winning again???

We are. That is, 20 million free Iraqi's are winning. Will innocent civilians die at the hands of terrorists. Yes. But the price of liberty is often paid for in blood.

 

BBond

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DP,

Do you honestly think that if Bush had told the America people he was going to invade Iraq to bring them liberty that he would have had ANY support at all?

 

conjur

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Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: conjur
Four U.S. Soldiers Killed by Iraq Car Bomb
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/w-me/2005/apr/30/043001287.html
The U.S. military also said four U.S. soldiers were killed and two wounded Thursday when a Task Force Freedom convoy was hit by a roadside bomb in Tal Afar city, 90 miles east of the Syrian border, the military said in a brief statement. It did not explain why the casualties were not announced earlier.

Elsewhere, four U.S. soldiers in a convoy were wounded when their Humvee rolled into a ditch late Friday night near Abu Ghraib prison, west of Baghdad, the U.S. military said Saturday.

The names of the soldiers were being withheld pending notification of relatives. At least 1,579 members of the U.S. military have died since the Iraq war started in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count.
Who's winning again???
We are. That is, 20 million free Iraqi's are winning. Will innocent civilians die at the hands of terrorists. Yes. But the price of liberty is often paid for in blood.
Oh knock it off with the soundbite bullsh*t. Freedom isn't Free. I want to smack the sh*t out of people when I see that stupid sticker on their cars.

If we're winning, why aren't our troops coming home by the thousands? If we're winning, why have 69 Iraqis been killed in the last two days? If we're winning, why is this administration still seeking almost $100 billion for continued operations in Iraq?
 

conjur

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Guerrillas kill three Iraqis in attack on Falluja
http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo....ect=143&sid=5731752&cKey=1114905938000
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Guerrillas fired at least seven rockets into the city of Falluja on Saturday, killing three Iraqi civilians and wounding another, the U.S. military said.

Two mortar bombs were also fired into Falluja, about 50 km (30 miles) west of Baghdad, but no caused no casualties, the military said in a statement.

Falluja was a guerrilla stronghold until a U.S.-led military offensive last November in which scores of insurgents were killed or captured.

A U.S. soldier was killed by small arms fire in the town of Khaladiyah.

The military said the soldier belonged to the 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force.

More than 1,200 U.S. soldiers have been killed in action since the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003.

Fallujah? I thought we obliterated Fallujah and ran the insurgents out of there? Hmmm
 

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conjur,

Again, with your smoke and mirrors and your trite campaign of bull$hit. Do you think for a minute that the settlers of this nation didn't suffer at the hands of the British while we waged war for our own freedom? Do you think that the French, who helped us in our war against Britain didn't suffer their own losses to help another nation gain their independence? The British army was well known for burning houses and quartering private residences for their war effort. What makes Iraq any different? The parallels are many but are often lost on those with little or no real knowledge of war or history.

Oh, and I thought the rule was to inject your own knowledge or opinion when posting an article, not just typing a one line remark referring to the personal character of a person quoted therein. That doesn't really add anything to the conversation does it? I mean, c'mon, let's use some intelligence here. Hell, I can do what you do and add absolutely nothing to the thread, watch this:

ANANDTECH FORUMS (Politics and News) - "Oh knock it off with the soundbite bullsh*t. Freedom isn't Free. I want to smack the sh*t out of people when I see that stupid sticker on their cars.

If we're winning, why aren't our troops coming home by the thousands? If we're winning, why have 69 Iraqis been killed in the last two days? If we're winning, why is this administration still seeking almost $100 billion for continued operations in Iraq?"

My response to your "article":

conjur? That guy is a liberal apologist and lacks any real knowledge of how a military campaign is waged in a foreign nation. His common sense on most matters is lacking and we trust him to try and persuade people against the war effort? Who's winning again? Would you believe that he has asked for 45765 more posts on how to waste people's time reading his baseless divel and opinionated crap? That's absurd! He should be impeached from the forums and sent to the UN for a P&N forum tribunal to have his ass sent to jail!

Oh, I'm sorry, that wasn't exactly what I was trying to get across. You see!? I actually expressed my opinion and typed more than three sentences is response to the article by ANANDTECH FORUMS (Politics and News) written by conjur.

And before you go running off at the mouth about how I'm some kind of war apologist, I am a soldier and have done my two years on active duty as a reservist. I am no Bush apologist and especially have taken on a dislike for Rumsfeld. I specify those things just for you since you'll make sure to sling some baseless accusation my way about how I'm a blind parrot to the administration because it makes you feel good about your own lack of intelligence on the facts at hand.
 

conjur

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:cookie:

Feel better after your baseless and insulting tirade? Hope so.


Now, back to the news:

Five Iraqi policemen killed in Baghdad attack
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-05/01/content_2902746.htm
Five Iraqi policemen were killed at a checkpoint in Baghdad early on Sunday, police said.

Some 30 insurgents attacked the checkpoint near a military college that now serves as a camp for US troops.
Pretty bold attack. I wonder how long until checkpoints resemble forts?
 

conjur

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Ten U.S. soldiers killed in last 48 hours in Iraq
http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=c35f3f6969ead0dc


And what's our media been reporting all weekend? Some stupid woman with cold feet who faked a kidnapping to get out of being married. CNN even had the gall to put a man on the plane to interview her and passengers next to her. WTF?

Our media is complicit in the spreading of this administration's propaganda. What happened to the Woodwards, Bernsteins, and Hershes? All we have now are Entertainment Tonight pretty faces reporting on schlock. We even have our fear-mongering leader and his Stepford wife cracking jokes while our men and women are dying in Iraq over this administration's deception.
 

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Originally posted by: conjur
The Propagandist tonight:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/04/20050428-9.html
. I believe we're making really good progress in Iraq, because the Iraqi people are beginning to see the benefits of a free society.

The reality:

17 die in Iraq violence
http://jang.com.pk/thenews/apr2005-daily/29-04-2005/main/main12.htm
At least 17 Iraqis were killed in fresh violence across the country on Thursday. A major general who worked as an intelligence adviser in the interior ministry was killed on his way to work in Baghdad and a police lieutenant colonel was shot dead


Updated info:
Bombers Hit Iraqi Forces, Kill 24
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050429/wl_nm/iraq_dc


cut tail and run fear mongoring
 

Deptacon

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Originally posted by: conjur
Iraq Attacks Kill at Least 41; 3 GIs Die
At least 11 car bombs exploded in and around Baghdad on Friday
http://apnews.excite.com/article/20050429/D89P7AB81.html
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - Insurgents unleashed a series of car bombings and other attacks across Iraq on Friday, killing at least 41 people, including three U.S. soldiers, and wounding dozens of people a day after the country's first democratically elected government was approved.

Iraq's most-wanted terrorist, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, purportedly threatened more violence in an audiotape on the Internet, warning President Bush the insurgents "will not rest until we avenge our dignity."

At least 11 car bombs exploded in and around Baghdad on Friday, including four suicide attacks in quick succession in the Azamiyah section of central Baghdad.

The first one hit an Iraqi army patrol, the second a police patrol and the third and fourth at separate barricades near the headquarters of the police special forces unit, police chief Brig. Gen. Khalid al-Hassan said. Col. Hussein Mutlak said those attacks killed at least 20 Iraqis, including 15 soldiers and five civilians. At least 65 were injured, including 30 troops and 35 civilians, he said.
From our Propagandist:
I believe we're making really good progress in Iraq, because the Iraqi people are beginning to see the benefits of a free society.
From Gen. Myers:
"Almost any indicator you look at, the trends are up," Gen. Myers said. "So we're definitely winning."
Yes, folks. This administration has us living in Bizarro World!



more fear mongoroing...BOMBs BOMBS!!!
 

Deptacon

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Originally posted by: conjur
17 bombs now!

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBORR6X48E.html
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - Insurgents set off at least 17 bombs in Iraq on Friday, killing at least 50 people, including three U.S. soldiers, in a series of attacks aimed at shaking Iraq's newly formed government. An audio tape by one of America's most-wanted insurgents, Abu-Musab al-Zarqawi, warned President Bush there was more bloodshed to come.

Damn.

NOW 17 BOMBS ...oh no FEAR MONGORING

dont let conjur get in ur head
 

conjur

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Fear mongering? No, the truth that is a result of the Propagandist's fear-mongering.


Car Bomb Blast at Baghdad Funeral Kills 20
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050501/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq
BAGHDAD, Iraq - A suicide car bomb exploded at the funeral of Kurdish official in northern Iraq on Sunday, killing 20 Iraqis, officials said, and wounding more than 30 and bringing the death toll in three days of insurgent attacks to at least 100.

The attack occurred in the city of Tal Afar, 90 miles east of the Syrian border, said Khisru Goran, a spokesman for the Kurdish Democratic Party.

Earlier in the day, U.S. and Iraqi forces detained several suspects in the abduction of a British aid worker believed killed last year and found clothing and documents that apparently belonged to her, while insurgents launched new attacks.

At least 100 people, including six U.S. soldiers, have died since Friday, a day after the approval of Iraq's first democratically elected government. The wave of violence is aimed at deflating hopes in Washington and Baghdad that the installation of the new government, scheduled for Tuesday, would curb the insurgency.
 

Deptacon

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Originally posted by: conjur
Deptacon, please refrain from your trolling and thread-crapping.

im just following ur lead.....

policizing peoples deaths...

i mean come on, you mean having 100,000 + western troops in a middle eastern country, is gonna mean bad things will happen, and 100% of the people wont agree??? NO WAY!!! well duh, half our own country doesnt agree..... doesnt matter if we were there or not, this crap would be going on, but hey , keep pissing on the situation, its helping it really is...

first we arent going to leave, so your pissing on the sitatuion inst gonna help cause there isnt going to be a pullout.....

second..... policizing the deaths of US soldiers and other iraqi's is classy, it really is!!!!

your just taking advantage of the situation for your own propoganda
 

BarneyFife

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Deptacon.... USE A FREAKING SPELLCHECKER!!! Everytime I read one of your posts, I think a 6 year old is typing it (which could very well be the case). Your sloppy writing says a lot about yourself. I'm not picking on one post either; all your posts are horrible.
 

conjur

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Violence surges on in Iraq
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-05/02/content_2906227.htm
BEIJING, May 2 --Insurgents have launched a third straight day of attacks in Iraq, killing at least ten Iraqis and wounding more than 20.

A car bomb blast detonated near a US military convoy in western Baghdad on Sunday, destroying a US Humvee and causing several casualties.

The attack took place on a road in the Jame'a district of western Baghdad, killing a child and wounding seven people.
More signs that "we're winning" and that "we're making really good progress."
 

conjur

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We have to look to the Italians to see the truth about the # of attacks going on in Iraq:

http://www.corriere.it/Primo_Piano/Cronache/2005/05_Maggio/01/pop_omissis.shtml
(U) Local Security Situation
1. (U) Iraq. From July 2004 to late March 2005, there were 15,257 attacks against Coalition Forces throughout Iraq. The U.S. considers all of Iraq a combat zone. (Annex 8E).
2. (U) Baghdad. Baghdad is a city of six million people and is home to a large number of suspected insurgents and terrorists operating both in the city and its environs.
(S//NF) From 1 November 2004 to 12 March 2005 there were a total of 3306 attacks in the Baghdad area. Of these, 2400 were directed against Coalition Forces. (Annex 8E)


4. (U) Effectiveness of Attacks
(U) The number of IED detonations from 15 June 2003 through 4 March 2005 (the date of the incident), has steadily increased. Although the effectiveness of those detonations has decreased over that timeframe, the overall average number of casualties during that period is nearly one per IED detonation. (Annex 4E).
(S//NF) The week of the incident saw 166 IED incidents, with 131 detonations and 35 IEDs rendered safe. There were 82 casualties from those incidents. (Annex 4E).
(U) The number of VBIED detonations from 15 June 2003 through 4 March 2005 has also seen a relatively steady increase. Similar to the decrease in the effectiveness of IEDs, the effectiveness of VBIEDs has also decreased over that period, but there have been spikes for particular VBIED events that have produced large numbers of casualties.