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The truth is coming at you, at last. The Resistance is doing better than acknowledged by the powers that be.

http://www.antiwar.com/blog/index.php?id=P2107

Mon May 16, 2005
RAF Hercules downed by AA fire in Iraq

The Telegraph is reporting that the RAF Hercules which crashed January 30, 2005 - the day of the Iraqi elections - was downed by an AA weapon.

An interim Ministry of Defence report has ruled out almost everything apart from enemy fire and it was suggested that a missile or rocket-propelled grenade could have brought down the aircraft.

But an official told The Daily Telegraph yesterday that the report concluded that the Hercules had been shot down by anti-aircraft artillery, as it flew at a low altitude, possibly 150ft.

"It was shredded by a multi-barrelled 20mm canon," the official said. "They have worked out that's what caused the crash."

The gun is believed to have been a 1960s twin-barrel Zu-23, made in China or the Soviet Union, left over from the Saddam Hussein regime.

It has an effective range of 2,000 yards and can be mounted on a lorry or set on wheels.

It is not known why the Hercules, which was equipped with sophisticated defensive measures, was flying at low altitude for the 40-minute trip.


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Confirmation:

http://www.uruknet.info/?p=99999&l=i&size=1&hd=0

http://www.uruknet.info/?colonna=m&p=11772&l=i&size=1&hd=0

Iraqi rebels better armed than we first thought, say US marines
Oliver Poole

Baghdad, May 16, 2005 - Iraqi insurgents have proved to be better equipped and more elusive than expected, United States marines have said at the end of a week-long operation near the Syrian border.

Many rebels wore bullet-proof vests and a number had Soviet-designed armour piercing bullets and night sights, equipment rarely seen previously in Iraq.
 

conjur

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It's taken them two years to realize the resistance and the foreign fighters are better armed than they expected? Who the fvck is running things??? The Keystone Neocons?




Oh yeah....they are.
 

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Here's another bit of information we'd really be better off without.

Civil war fears rise in Iraq

Scores of bodies found as Sunnis accuse army

Tuesday, May 17, 2005
BY ALEXANDRA ZAVIS

Associated Press

BAGHDAD -- Mortars, bombs and drive-by gunmen killed at least 24 Iraqis yesterday, and the new government vowed to capture and punish the killers of at least 50 other people found slain in the past 48 hours, charging that insurgents were trying to start open warfare between the country's Shi'a majority and Sunni minority.

Underscoring the threat, two car bombs exploded within minutes at a mostly Shi'a Baghdad market, killing at least nine Iraqi soldiers and a civilian in a rash of attacks many here worry could deepen the conflict beyond the deadly insurgency against U.S. forces and their Iraqi allies.

With the body count rising, an influential association of Sunni clerics accused the government's Shi'a-dominated security forces of participating in the carnage -- a claim rejected by the Sunni defense minister and other government officials.

"The new government will strike with an iron fist against any criminal who tries to harm a Sunni or a Shi'a citizen," Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari told reporters after visiting Iraq's top Shi'a cleric in the holy city of Najaf. "The death sentence will be implemented."

The Shi'a premier has sought to reach out to the disaffected Sunni Arab minority -- believed to be driving the insurgency -- by including them in his new government announced April 28. But Sunnis are still underrepresented in Cabinet and a newly appointed committee tasked with drafting a new constitution by Aug. 15.

Returning from a one-day trip to meet Iraq's new leaders, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice praised the expanded role given Sunni Arabs and said she was confident the Iraqi government could meet important deadlines.

At the same time, she blamed Syria for complicating the new Iraqi government's efforts to quell violence.

The U.S. military contends Iraq's remote desert region near Syria is a haven for foreign combatants who cross the frontier along ancient smuggling routes and collect weapons to use in some of Iraq's deadliest attacks. U.S. forces conducted a major campaign to clear the area last week.

The two car bombs at the Baghdad market went off in quick succession yesterday, killing the nine soldiers and a civilian. The second blast targeted soldiers who rushed to help the victims of the first explosion.

Shopkeepers piled the wounded into pickup trucks to help get them to hospitals. Yarmouk Hospital treated 29 people injured in the blasts, one of whom died of his injuries.

Radical Shi'a cleric Muqtada al-Sadr also came out of hiding yesterday for the first time since his fighters clashed with American forces in Najaf and Baghdad in August.

Sadr held a news conference demanding that U.S.-led forces leave Iraq and Saddam Hussein be punished. "I want the immediate withdrawal of the occupation forces," he said.

More than 490 Iraqis have been killed in a series of car bombings, ambushes and other insurgent attacks since Iraq's first democratically elected government was formed. In a grisly twist to the relentless violence, batches of bodies -- many of them bound and blindfolded -- turned up in several parts of the country over the past week.

Thirteen were found in a garbage-strewn lot in Baghdad's Shi'a-dominated Sadr City slum, 11 more in an abandoned chicken farm south of the capital in an insurgent stronghold dubbed Iraq's Triangle of Death, and 10 identified as Iraqi soldiers in the battleground city of Ramadi.

Late Sunday, at least eight more men were found near a dam in another Shi'a-dominated Baghdad neighborhood, their hands tied behind their backs and bullet wounds to their heads. Two of the victims were still alive, but died soon afterward, police said.

Associated Press Television News footage showed the blood-soaked ground where the bodies were found, and three of the corpses being brought into a Baghdad hospital.

The Association of Muslim Scholars, a Sunni group, said the two survivors told their families before they died that security force members seized them from mosques and shot them.

Defense Minister Saadoun al-Duleimi denied the accusation, saying the killings were carried out by "terrorists" wearing military uniforms. But in a gesture to the association, he said Iraqi security forces would be banned from entering places of worship and universities.

U.S. forces say they have repeatedly been attacked from inside mosques. They rely on their Iraqi counterparts to conduct searches there to avoid provoking Iraqis.

Another body was also found yesterday, this one an Iraqi Kurd shot in the head and chest and left in a garbage dump in Kirkuk, 180 miles north of Baghdad, police and witnesses said. An AP reporter saw the victim, identified by police as Najat Saadoun, with his hands tied behind his back.

Jaafari spokesman Laith Kuba said such attacks "aim to create sectarian fighting in the country because such clashes could bring more recruits to (militant) groups."

"The government is aware of that and will not let this plan succeed," Kuba told the Associated Press.

Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, the country's top Shi'a cleric, also stressed the need for "fighting terrorism and guaranteeing security," during his meeting with Jaafari, said an aide, speaking on condition of anonymity. But he urged his followers to exercise restraint in the face of provocative attacks, the aide said.
 

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U.S. troops, insurgents clash in Mosul
http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/US-tro...05/17/1116095963807.html?oneclick=true
US troops backed by attack helicopters and militants clashed in Mosul with heavy exchanges of machine-gun fire being heard, the US military and an Associated Press reporter at the scene said.

US forces were seen advancing into the eastern suburb of Dhubbat, a known insurgent stronghold the northern city, 360km north-west of Baghdad, the AP reporter said.

"Forces were attacked and called in helicopters to support them in the battle with insurgents," said US military spokesman Sgt John Franzen. He did not have further details.

Heavy machine-gun exchanges were taking place in the area between militants and US forces, said the AP reporter who saw the clashes from the rooftop of a nearby home. American helicopters were also seen circling overhead.

A statement released by US and Iraqi forces in Mosul said troops had detained nine suspected terrorists in separate operations conducted Tuesday and Monday.

The statement said the operations took place in central and western Mosul and provided no further details. It was not immediately clear if the operations were related to the ongoing clashes in Dhubbat.

Mosul is Iraq's third largest city, has been hit by organised attacks by insurgents and dozens of car bombs in recent months.

The fun and frivolity continues!
 

conjur

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TASK FORCE BAGHDAD SOLDIER KILLED IN IED ATTACK
http://www.centcom.mil/CENTCOMNews/Casu...Report.asp?CasualtyReport=20050522.txt

TWO U.S. SOLDIERS KILLED IN DRIVE-BY SHOOTING
http://www.centcom.mil/CENTCOMNews/Casu...Report.asp?CasualtyReport=20050523.txt


"We're winning."

"We're making really good progress."



Oh, really?

Generals Offer a Sober Outlook on Iraqi War
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/19/inter...nnlx=1116532971-ShpUOFq/qd8dUwdcsMKudw
BAGHDAD, Iraq, May 19 - American military commanders in Baghdad and Washington gave a sobering new assessment on Wednesday of the war in Iraq, adding to the mood of anxiety that prompted Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to come to Baghdad last weekend to consult with the new government.

In interviews and briefings this week, some of the generals pulled back from recent suggestions, some by the same officers, that positive trends in Iraq could allow a major drawdown in the 138,000 American troops late this year or early in 2006. One officer suggested Wednesday that American military involvement could last "many years."

Gen. John P. Abizaid, the top American officer in the Middle East, said in a briefing in Washington that one problem was the disappointing progress in developing Iraqi police units cohesive enough to mount an effective challenge to insurgents and allow American forces to begin stepping back from the fighting. General Abizaid, who speaks with President Bush and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld regularly, was in Washington this week for a meeting of regional commanders.
 

conjur

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10 bodyguards of Iraqi lawmaker killed in wild Mosul clashes
http://www.freenewmexican.com/news/13911.html


BTW, from the NY Times article I posted above:
In Baghdad, a senior officer said Wednesday in a background briefing that the 21 car bombings in Baghdad so far this month almost matched the total of 25 in all of last year.

Against this, he said, there has been a lull in insurgents' activity in Baghdad in recent days after months of some of the bloodiest attacks, a trend that suggested that American pressure, including the capture of important bomb makers, had left the insurgents incapable of mounting protracted offensives. But the officer said that despite Americans' recent successes in disrupting insurgent cells, which have resulted in the arrest of 1,100 suspects in Baghdad alone in the past 80 days, the success of American goals in Iraq was not assured.

"I think that this could still fail," the officer said at the briefing, referring to the American enterprise in Iraq. "It's much more likely to succeed, but it could still fail."
 

conjur

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Insurgents launch bloody attacks in Iraq
http://www.timesofoman.com/newsdetails.asp?newsid=15660
BAGHDAD ?? Insurgents launched a string of bloody attacks in Iraq on Sunday, shooting dead a senior civil servant in Baghdad and bombing a police station in Saddam Hussein's home town of Tikrit.

This followed the killing of 12 interior ministry commandos on Saturday in a series of clashes in and around the restive city of Samarra, in central Iraq.

Over the past weeks, rebels have increasingly targetted newly-minted Iraqi security forces, who are taking on a more prominent role in anti-insurgency operations, especially in towns.

Meanwhile, US officials acknowledged that poor security in the country is hobbling efforts to speed up reconstruction and that security accounts for 16 percent of all spending on reconstruction projects.

"We're winning."

"We're making really good progress."

>2900 projects started.



Hmmm.....anyone care to tell me who is spreading the BS and who is reporting facts?
 

conjur

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Director of Iraqi Trade Ministry Killed
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050522/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_killing
BAGHDAD, Iraq - The director general of the Iraqi Trade Ministry and his driver were killed by gunmen Sunday in western Baghdad, in the latest in a series of drive-by shootings targeting government officials. Ali Moussa was head of the auditing office in the Trade Ministry, said ministry spokesman Faraj al-Jaafari. He was killed while driving to work, the spokesman added.
Getting picked off one-by-one almost every day.
 

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No wonder every Bush administration official that visits Iraq makes it a "surprise" visit. :roll:

Twenty-six months after Bush's illegal invasion of Iraq and security can't even be provided for top Iraqi government officials.

This situation can only get worse. And don't you Bushies blame me for saying so. The responsibility is all on your "leader".
 

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Insurgent attacks kill 7 Iraqis, 4 US troops
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s...=586&e=1&u=/nm/20050523/wl_nm/iraq2_dc
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Guerrillas seeking to topple Iraq's new government exploded a suicide truck bomb outside a mayor's office and shot a security official on Monday, killing at least seven people in an escalating campaign of violence.

The truck bomb exploded in the town of Tuz Khurmatu south of the oil city of Kirkuk, killing five people and wounding 18.

Among the dead was the brother of a senior official in one of Iraq's main Kurdish parties, the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, police said. The official, Mohammed Mahmoud Jigareti, was wounded in the blast. Both men had been in a car that was entering the mayor's office compound when the bomber struck.

Insurgents also kept up pressure on the U.S. military. Three American soldiers were killed in two separate attacks in the northern city of Mosul on Sunday, the military said, and another U.S. soldier was killed by a bomb blast near Tikrit.

In Baghdad, gunmen killed Wael Rubaie, an official in the operations room in the Ministry of State for National Security, a government statement said. His driver was also killed.

More than a dozen senior government officials have been shot dead in Baghdad in well planned attacks in recent weeks.

U.S. and Iraqi forces detained 285 suspected insurgents "terrorists" in the western Baghdad district of Abu Ghraib after a major search operation, the U.S. military said. It said Operation Squeeze Play was designed to kill or capture guerrillas who have been staging attacks in the capital.
I can't wait to hear the Pentagon spin on this. I guess "capturing" 285 suspected "terrorists" is supposed to outweigh the loss of four more U.S. soldiers.

"Four US soldiers died BUT WE CAUGHT 285 OF *THEM*!" Vietnam all over again.
 

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Originally posted by: conjur
Insurgent attacks kill 7 Iraqis, 4 US troops
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s...=586&e=1&u=/nm/20050523/wl_nm/iraq2_dc
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Guerrillas seeking to topple Iraq's new government exploded a suicide truck bomb outside a mayor's office and shot a security official on Monday, killing at least seven people in an escalating campaign of violence.

The truck bomb exploded in the town of Tuz Khurmatu south of the oil city of Kirkuk, killing five people and wounding 18.

Among the dead was the brother of a senior official in one of Iraq's main Kurdish parties, the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, police said. The official, Mohammed Mahmoud Jigareti, was wounded in the blast. Both men had been in a car that was entering the mayor's office compound when the bomber struck.

Insurgents also kept up pressure on the U.S. military. Three American soldiers were killed in two separate attacks in the northern city of Mosul on Sunday, the military said, and another U.S. soldier was killed by a bomb blast near Tikrit.

In Baghdad, gunmen killed Wael Rubaie, an official in the operations room in the Ministry of State for National Security, a government statement said. His driver was also killed.

More than a dozen senior government officials have been shot dead in Baghdad in well planned attacks in recent weeks.

U.S. and Iraqi forces detained 285 suspected insurgents "terrorists" in the western Baghdad district of Abu Ghraib after a major search operation, the U.S. military said. It said Operation Squeeze Play was designed to kill or capture guerrillas who have been staging attacks in the capital.
I can't wait to hear the Pentagon spin on this. I guess "capturing" 285 suspected "terrorists" is supposed to outweigh the loss of four more U.S. soldiers.

"Four US soldiers died BUT WE CAUGHT 285 OF *THEM*!" Vietnam all over again.

Update:

Five U.S. soldiers killed in northern Iraq on Sunday, military says

By Associated Press, 5/23/2005 05:06

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) Five U.S. soldiers were killed in northern Iraq on Sunday, the U.S. military said.

Officials on Monday said three Task Force Freedom soldiers were killed in Mosul, 225 miles northwest of Baghdad. Details were not released.

A fourth Task Force Liberty soldier died of wounds sustained in 10 a.m. car bomb attack against his combat patrol just north of Tikrit, 80 miles north of Baghdad, the military said in a statement.

A fifth soldier was fatally injured in a vehicle accident at 2:30 p.m. near Kirkuk, 180 miles north of Baghdad, officials said. The cause of the accident was under investigation.

The names of the five soldiers were being withheld pending next-of-kin notification.

As of Monday, May 22, 2005, at least 1,634 members of the U.S. military have died since the beginning of the Iraq war in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count.

Support our troops. Bring them home.

 

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The name of the security official killed in this account isn't provided. It may be the same official, Wael Rubaie, mentioned in Conjur's previous link. Either way, security can't even be provided for the commander of Iraq's new counter-insurgency headquarters. "Insurgent killer squads" are targeting government officials in Iraq. After over two years of occupation the situation in Iraq is looking NOTHING like the rosy picture Bush painted.

And still no WMD.

:roll:

Iraq counter-insurgency chief gunned down

Monday, 23 May , 2005, 15:28

Baghdad: An insurgent killer squad shot dead the commander of Iraq's new counter-insurgency headquarters as he drove to work on Monday in Baghdad, as US and Iraqi troops conducted a massive sweep for insurgents.
 

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: conjur
Insurgent attacks kill 7 Iraqis, 4 US troops
[ ... ]

Update:

Five U.S. soldiers killed in northern Iraq on Sunday, military says
[ ... ]
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Nine more fine young men dead, nine more families shattered, and who knows how many more innocent Iraqis murdered, all for a lie. I hope Bush and his minions are right in their purported faith. I look forward to them spending eternity in Hell for their horrific sins.

I think the totals are overlapping Bow. The first reports were that four U.S. soldiers were killed on Sunday in Iraq. The updates are saying five U.S. soldiers were killed in Iraq on Sunday.

The bottom line is, this insurgency is showing no signs of stopping and is indeed escalating. Just as in Vietnam, the more people we round up, imprison, or kill the more Iraqis we recruit for the insurgency.
 

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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: conjur
Insurgent attacks kill 7 Iraqis, 4 US troops
[ ... ]

Update:

Five U.S. soldiers killed in northern Iraq on Sunday, military says
[ ... ]
:(
Nine more fine young men dead, nine more families shattered, and who knows how many more innocent Iraqis murdered, all for a lie. I hope Bush and his minions are right in their purported faith. I look forward to them spending eternity in Hell for their horrific sins.

I think the totals are overlapping Bow. The first reports were that four U.S. soldiers were killed on Sunday in Iraq. The updates are saying five U.S. soldiers were killed in Iraq on Sunday.

The bottom line is, this insurgency is showing no signs of stopping and is indeed escalating. Just as in Vietnam, the more people we round up, imprison, or kill the more Iraqis we recruit for the insurgency.
Oops, thank you. I'll correct my post.
 

conjur

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The civilians don't have it any easier. A car bomb exploded outside a restaurant.

http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=4591932



It's just a matter of time before the average Iraqi citizens band together and go on the offensive themselves. Only thing is, they'll likely be shot at by U.S. and Iraqi forces or get caught in crossfire like what happened in al-Qaim.
 

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Another day of complete pandemonium in Iraq.

Car bombs, suicide attacks kill 49, scores hurt

The Associated Press
Updated: 6:26 p.m. ET May 23, 2005

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A string of car bombs and suicide attacks across Iraq killed at least 49 Iraqis and wounded more than 130 Monday, striking a Baghdad restaurant popular with police, a Shiite mosque and the home of a community leader near Mosul.

Insurgents also assassinated a senior Iraqi general in the capital, and the U.S. military reported that four American soldiers were killed in combat Sunday in northern Iraq and a fifth died in an accident.

About 610 people, including 49 U.S. troops, have been killed since April 28, when Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari announced his new government. Washington hopes the government will eventually train police and an army capable of securing Iraq and allowing the withdrawal of foreign troops.

In Monday?s deadliest attack, two car bombs exploded in the town of Tal Afar, 50 miles west of the northern city of Mosul, killing at least 20 people and injuring 20 more, officials said. The blasts apparently targeted the home of Hassan Baktash, a Shiite Muslim with close ties to the Kurdistan Democratic Party.

20 die in Mahmoudiya
A suicide car bomber carried out the second worst strike when he blew himself up outside a Shiite mosque shortly before evening prayers in Mahmoudiya, a town 20 miles south of Baghdad. Police said it killed at least 10 people and wounded 30 ? many of them children.

Sunni Muslims opposed to Iraq?s Shiite-dominated government are thought to provide the backbone of the insurgency, and some Sunni extremists are attacking Shiite targets in an effort to provoke a sectarian war.

In Baghdad?s worst attack in recent days, a car bomb killed at least eight people and wounded more than 80 when it exploded at lunchtime outside the Habayibna restaurant in the Talibia neighborhood. It is a popular gathering spot for police.

?All these people were killed for no reason. What wrong did they do by being policemen or soldiers,? a shaken Mshari Hassan, the restaurant owner, said shortly after the blast.

Baghdad hospitals where the dead were taken did not say if any were police officers or soldiers.

5 die, 13 hurt south of Kirkuk
?We were eating at the restaurant then I don?t remember anything until I woke up here in the hospital. There were hundreds of people in the restaurant having lunch,? said Dia Hamid, who was being treated at al-Kindi Hospital for head and stomach injuries.

A suicide bomber killed five Iraqis and injured 13 when he drove an explosives-packed pickup truck into a crowd outside a municipal council office in Tuz Khormato, 55 miles south of the northern city of Kirkuk, a police commander, Lt. Gen. Sarhat Qader, said.

Monday?s violence began in Baghdad when Maj. Gen. Wael al-Rubaei, a senior official in the National Security Ministry, was killed along with his driver in a fusillade of automatic weapons fire from two cars packed with insurgents. Al-Qaida in Iraq, the group run by Jordanian terrorist mastermind Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, claimed responsibility.

The assassination came a day after another senior government official, Trade Ministry auditing office chief Ali Moussa, was shot dead. Insurgents have killed 18 officials since late April, nearly all in drive-by shootings.

In other violence Monday, two Iraqis were killed and two injured in Kirkuk when a mortar round hit a house, police Capt. Farhad Talabani said.

In Samarra, a former insurgent stronghold 60 miles north of Baghdad, three suicide bombers trying to attack an American base wounded three soldiers, the U.S. military said. Two Iraqi men were killed and 20 people, including men and women, were wounded, police Lt. Qassim Mohammed said.

Deadly weekend for U.S. forces
The U.S. military announced that three American soldiers were killed Sunday and one wounded in two separate attacks in Mosul, 225 miles northwest of Baghdad. Another soldier was reported killed when his patrol was hit by a car bomb just north of Tikrit, 80 miles north of the capital, and a fifth died in a vehicle accident in Kirkuk.

As of Monday, at least 1,634 U.S. military personnel had died since the beginning of the Iraq war in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count.

U.S. and Iraqi forces arrested at least 285 suspected insurgents in Operation Squeeze Play, their biggest ever joint offensive in the Baghdad area. Centered in the Abu Ghraib district, it targeted militants suspected of attacking the U.S.-run prison there as well as the road to the airport.

Also Monday, the bodies of brothers Haidar and Raed Jaffat were found in Latifiyah, and three other slain men were dumped in Mahmoudiya, police said. All had been shot in the head. The two cities are south of Baghdad in the Triangle of Death, a region where dozens of bodies from unexplained slayings have been found.

Working to head off civil war
Religious leaders are trying to defuse tension between Sunnis and the majority Shiites after a spate of sectarian killings, including the deaths of 10 Islamic clerics the past two weeks.

Sunni leaders have formed an alliance of tribal, political and religious groups to help Iraq?s once dominant minority break out of its isolation following the Shiite rise to power after Saddam?s ouster.

Political inclusion of the Sunni minority, who account for about 20 percent of Iraq?s 27 million people, is seen as a key factor for the country to end the insurgency.

In particular, there have been calls for greater Sunni participation in drafting Iraq?s new constitution, which is supposed to be drawn up by mid-August and put to a referendum by October.

Just 17 Sunni Arabs are in the National Assembly following a decision by many Sunni Arabs not to participate in Jan. 30 elections, either from choice or fear of reprisal by insurgents.
 

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13 U.S. soldiers have been killed since Sunday.

5 on Sunday, 4 yesterday, and now 4 more today

8 American soldiers killed in Iraq attacks
3 deadly attacks on U.S. over 2 days; also Baghdad school rocked
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7897149



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Insurgents Flourish in Iraq's Wild West
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld...=la-headlines-world&ctrack=1&cset=true
WASHINGTON ? The U.S. military's plan to pacify Iraq has run into trouble in a place where it urgently needs to succeed.

U.S. officials in Washington and Baghdad agree that Al Anbar province ? the vast desert badlands stretching west from the cities of Fallouja and Ramadi to the lawless region abutting the Syrian border ? remains the epicenter of the country's deadly insurgency.

Yet U.S. troops and military officials in the embattled province said in recent interviews that they have neither enough combat power nor enough Iraqi military support to mount an effective counterinsurgency against an increasingly sophisticated enemy.

"You can't get all the Marines and train them on a single objective, because usually the objective is bigger than you are," said Maj. Mark Lister, a senior Marine air officer in Al Anbar province. "Basically, we've got all the toys, but not enough boys."


The Pentagon has made training Iraqi troops its top priority since Iraq's national election in late January. But in Al Anbar province, that objective is overshadowed by the more basic mission of trying to keep much of the region out of insurgent hands.

Just three battalions of Marines are stationed in the western part of the province, down from four a few months ago. Marine officials in western Al Anbar say that each of those battalions is smaller by one company than last year, meaning there are approximately 2,100 Marines there now, compared with about 3,600 last year.

Some U.S. military officers in Al Anbar province say that commanders in Baghdad and the Pentagon have denied their repeated requests for more troops.

"[Commanders] can't use the word, but we're withdrawing," said one U.S. military official in Al Anbar province, who asked not to be identified because it is the Pentagon that usually speaks publicly about troop levels. "Slowly, that's what we're doing."


Such reductions are especially problematic because U.S. commanders have determined that it is the western part of the province to which the insurgency's "center of resistance" has shifted. The insurgency's base of operations was once the eastern corridor between Fallouja and Ramadi. Now, Pentagon officials say, it is in villages and cities closer to the Syrian border.

Commanders also believe the insurgency is now made up of a larger percentage of foreign jihadists than the U.S. military previously believed, an indication that there are not enough U.S. and Iraqi troops to patrol miles of desert border.

Some Pentagon officials and experts in counterinsurgency warfare say the troop shortage has hamstrung the U.S. military's ability to effectively fight Iraqi insurgents.

This was evident during this month's Operation Matador, the U.S. offensive near the Syrian border designed to stem the flow of foreign fighters and their weapons into Iraq. For seven days, Marines rumbled through desert villages and fought pitched battles against a surprisingly well-coordinated enemy.

On the first day of the operation, insurgents appeared to be willing to stand their ground and fight the Marines, but U.S. military officials now believe that may have been a tactic to delay U.S. troops from crossing into the Ramana region north of the Euphrates River. This delay, officials said, could have given many of the insurgents time to escape into Syria.

"It's an extremely frustrating fight," said Maj. Steve White, operations director for the 3rd Battalion, 25th Marine Regiment. "Fighting these guys is like picking up water. You're going to lose some every time."

A military news release declared the mission a success, saying that U.S. troops had killed more than 125 insurgents. Nine Marines were killed and 40 were wounded during the operation.

Yet as soon as the operation concluded, the Marines crossed back over the Euphrates River and left no U.S. or Iraqi government presence in the region ? generally considered a major mistake in counterinsurgency warfare.


"It's classically the wrong thing to do," said Kalev Sepp, a professor at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, Calif., who last fall was a counterinsurgency advisor to Army Gen. George W. Casey, the top U.S. general in Iraq. "Sending 1,000 men north of the Euphrates does what? Sometimes these things can be counterproductive, because you just end up shooting things up and then leaving the area."

Military officials in Iraq and Washington said there was little reason to expect that insurgent fighters would not return to the villages.

"The right thing to do would have been to sweep the area with U.S. troops, and hold it with Iraqi troops," said a military official and counterinsurgency expert at the Pentagon who spoke on condition of anonymity because he is not an official Pentagon spokesman.

Yet, there were no Iraqi troops to leave in the area. Just one platoon of Iraqi troops is stationed in the far west Al Anbar province, garrisoned at a phosphate plant in the town of Qaim. But those troops were on leave during the week of Operation Matador, taking their paychecks home to their families.


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So...Shinseki was full of sh*t, eh, Rumsfeld? Lean and mean, eh?

Fvcking PNAC neocon politicians are getting our men killed for their fvcking POS ideology! FVCK THEM!!! :| :| :|
 

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13 U.S. soldiers have been killed since Sunday.

5 on Sunday, 4 yesterday, and now 4 more today

8 American soldiers killed in Iraq attacks
3 deadly attacks on U.S. over 2 days; also Baghdad school rocked
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7897149



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And to watch the "liberal" U.S. news you'd never know it was happening. As long as Bush can keep the human cost of this war hidden America's ignorance will continue to enable him.

Unseen Pictures, Untold Stories

U.S. newspapers and magazines print few photos of American dead and wounded, a Times review finds. The reasons are many -- access, logistics, ethics -- but the result is an obscured view of the cost of war.

By James Rainey, Times Staff Writer

The young soldier died like so many others, ambushed while on patrol in Baghdad. Medics rushed him to a field hospital, but couldn't get his heart beating again.

What set Army Spc. Travis Babbitt's last moments in Iraq apart was that he confronted them in front of a journalist's camera.

An Associated Press photograph of the mortally wounded Babbitt remains a rarity ? one of a handful of pictures of dead or dying American service members to be published in this country since the start of the Iraq war more than two years ago.

A review of six prominent U.S. newspapers and the nation's two most popular newsmagazines during a recent six-month period found almost no pictures from the war zone of Americans killed in action. During that time, 559 Americans and Western allies died. The same publications ran 44 photos from Iraq to represent the thousands of Westerners wounded during that same time.

Many photographers and editors believe they are delivering Americans an incomplete portrait of the violence that has killed 1,797 U.S. service members and their Western allies and wounded 12,516 Americans.

Journalists attribute the relatively bloodless portrayal of the war to a variety of causes ? some in their control, others in the hands of the U.S. military, and the most important related to the far-flung nature of the conflict and the way American news outlets perceive their role.

"We in the news business are not doing a very good job of showing our readers what has really happened over there," said Pim Van Hemmen, assistant managing editor for photography at the Star-Ledger of Newark, N.J.

"Writing in a headline that 1,500 Americans have died doesn't give you nearly the impact of showing one serviceman who is dead," Van Hemmen said. "It's the power of visuals."

Publishing such photos grabs readers' attention, but not always in ways that news executives like. When the Star-Ledger and several other papers ran the Babbitt photo in November, their editors were lashed by some readers ? who called them cruel, insensitive, even unpatriotic.

Deirdre Sargent, whose husband was deployed to Iraq, e-mailed editors of the News Tribune of Tacoma, Wash., that the photo left her "shaking and in tears for hours." She added: "It was tacky, unprofessional and completely unnecessary."

Babbitt's mother, Kathy Hernandez, expressed ambivalent sentiments. "That is not an image you want to see like that," said Hernandez, still shedding tears of fury and sadness six months after her son's death. "Your kid is lying like that and there is no way you can get there to help them."

Hernandez ? who lives in Uvalde, Texas, about 80 miles west of San Antonio ? wishes the newspapers at least had waited until after her son's funeral to run the photo. But she has no doubt why they wanted to print it.

"I do think it's an important thing, for people to see what goes on over there," Hernandez said in a phone interview. "It throws reality more in your face. And sometimes we can't help reality."

In virtually every conflict since the beginning of the 20th century, the debate has been renewed: Do Americans need to see the most vivid pictures of the consequences of war?

One camp has argued against publishing graphic images of U.S. casualties, saying the pictures hurt morale, aid the enemy and intrude on the most intimate moments of human suffering.

Journalists, in contrast, generally have invoked their responsibility as witnesses ? believing they must provide an unsanitized portrait of combat.

"There can be horrible images, but war is horrible and we need to understand that," said Chris Hondros, a veteran war photographer whose pictures are distributed by the Getty Images agency. "I think if we are going to start a war, we ought to be willing to show the consequences of that war."

Among the most arresting images of the last three years: the charred bodies of American contractors hanging from a bridge in Fallouja, by Khalid Mohammed of the Associated Press; the stoic face of an exhausted U.S. Marine, cigarette dangling from his lip, by Luis Sinco of the Los Angeles Times; the wrenching series of pictures of naked Iraqi prisoners being humiliated at the Abu Ghraib prison, taken by the prison guards; and Hondros' tableau of blood-stained Iraqi children whose parents had been mistakenly shot to death before their eyes.

So why have photographs of the American dead and wounded been so few and far between?

A wide array of photographers and editors agreed that the most significant reason was logistical.

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