Please stop with the forced diversity in superheroes!

[desura]

Interestingly, Superman in Lois and Clark was a half Asian male. But, DC is releasing a Chinese Superman series.

Anyhoo, they're not massaging guilt so much as trying to reach more potential paying customers. For example, lots of movies have locations in China or major characters from China these days, I assume because they want to tap that Chinese market. Lots of $$$$ there. Or Yuan as it were.

He was? You mean the tv series?

Doesn't matter, because his Chinese side was never emphasized in the least, i.e. Chinese culture. Culturally he is entirely white Midwestern.

 

[Eug]

He was? You mean the tv series?

Doesn't matter, because his Chinese side was never emphasized in the least, i.e. Chinese culture. Culturally he is entirely white Midwestern.

Turns out I was wrong. He's only 25% Asian. His original last name was Tanaka from his dad, but his dad was only half-Japanese.

 

[poofyhairguy]

Turns out I was wrong. He's only 25% Asian.

And hers are 100% real.









(sorry for a dated Seinfeld joke in 2016, couldn't help it)

 

[brianmanahan]

in other news, ATOT recasts madoka as a midget

 

[brianmanahan]

lois in "new adventures" = best lois ever tbh

 

[Eug]

And hers are 100% real.









(sorry for a dated Seinfeld joke in 2016, couldn't help it)

The sad part is I immediately knew that reference. I wonder how much time I wasted watching that show.

BTW, it turns out I'm wrong again. According to this page, Daen Cain is 3/8ths Japanese, since his dad was 3/4 Japanese. So 37.5%.

http://ethnicelebs.com/dean-cain

 

[desura]

I started to care less about Marvel and DC comics on a whole.

True. I'm old enough to remember them being sold in like gas stations. Now, they're a niche where all the freaks dwell. Last time I was at a comic shop there was a dude with tits.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

True. I'm old enough to remember them being sold in like gas stations. Now, they're a niche where all the freaks dwell. Last time I was at a comic shop there was a dude with tits.

There has always been fat guys at comic stores

 

[smackababy]

I don't mind characters being different ethnicity, especially in a far more diverse time. Unfortunately, it isn't a "new Spider man is an inner city kid who happens to be black" so much as it is always "look at us, we are diverse!"

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I don't mind characters being different ethnicity, especially in a far more diverse time. Unfortunately, it isn't a "new Spider man is an inner city kid who happens to be black" so much as it is always "look at us, we are diverse!"

Great summary. The new girl is even named Riri lifted from Rhianna(sp?). Get writing and stop borrowing.

 

[foghorn67]

I don't mind it when it's just said and done without a "very special episode" message behind it. Nick Fury played by SLJ, totally cool. It's just a new generation of characters like how Bond is a continuation most of the time with the exception of Craig's Bond.
If Elba plays Bond like how Brosnan took over for Dalton and so on, it would be fine. Race won't limit range.

The contrived bullshit behind Thor or Iron Man. Straight up pandering. Nothing else. When folks behind multi billion dollar empires get lazy but still want to print money, don't pretend you care and use my race/sex/preference/religion/lactose intolerance as your weak vehicle.

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[desura]

I don't mind characters being different ethnicity, especially in a far more diverse time. Unfortunately, it isn't a "new Spider man is an inner city kid who happens to be black" so much as it is always "look at us, we are diverse!"

Meh, it's a white writer making the superhero a minority. That is what is so silly about it. This is like how white leftists always gravitate to the most extreme minority narratives because of its authenticity.

I.e. This is basically hipster slumming in comic book form. I don't even like the new stories. If you look at old school comics by Stan Lee they're actually a lot more creative and interesting than the emo stuff now, because back then comic book writers like had childhoods where they went outside and played ball. Today comic book writers think of themselves as priests.

 

[poofyhairguy]

The contrived bullshit behind Thor or Iron Man. Straight up pandering. Nothing else.

I see it as a consequence of their success.

If Marvel Studios didn't make a massive profit on every movie with their name on it they would be like Warner worrying about how to make money out of the target market and not how to make everyone happy.

Comic books movies have a target market of young men and children, IE the kinds of people who don't normally care about this diversity stuff. The fact that Marvel even has to worry about an "image problem" of not having enough female/gay/minority characters means they are massively successful making their target market happy (as they can afford to piss of that market by playing with the comic canon) and their only concerns are placating the mass audience outside of their target.

And even then they probably wouldn't care without the Mouse pushing them to care.

 

[SSSnail]

Because God, obviously.

 

[Craig234]

The logic is adorable.

Making characters more closely match society is "pandering". Not having them white guys.

 

[brianmanahan]

Because God, obviously.

those are the translated versions of their names

if you read it in aramaic, it is things like yeshua (jesus), shimon (simon), yochanan (john), mattityahu (matthew), etc

the same thing occurs with most other figures from ancient history. alexander the great was really alexandros, cyrus was really kurus, nebuchadnezzar was really nabu-kudurri-usur

and some we don't even really know their real name, just the translated one - with lots of the lydian kings, for example, since lydian is not very well known. alyattes was really walwetes, but almost nobody knows him as that.

 

[Brian Stirling]

I do not even care anymore, super hero movies should be going the way of reality shows these days.

The whole concept was over saturated long ago.

This ... X1000

Honestly, I never got how adults bought into the whole superhero genre in the first place.


Brian

 

[SSSnail]

those are the translated versions of their names

if you read it in aramaic, it is things like yeshua (jesus), shimon (simon), yochanan (john), mattityahu (matthew), etc

the same thing occurs with most other figures from ancient history. alexander the great was really alexandros, cyrus was really kurus, nebuchadnezzar was really nabu-kudurri-usur

and some we don't even really know their real name, just the translated one - with lots of the lydian kings, for example, since lydian is not very well known. alyattes was really walwetes, but almost nobody knows him as that.

Yeah, whatever, I'm just gonna go with my God stance of dominance.

Edit: Oh, did any of those translations translated Jesus from brown to white?

 

[Imp]

I gave this some thought and honestly don't care about the change.

Just make the character likable.

 

[werepossum]

Nah, just "not diverse enough" -- young Asian female lets you check off more boxes including promoting STEM to women. Make her young Asian mixed-race female transgender with an abusive childhood and you can shout "bingo!"

Batman Beyond did a good job of introducing a new generation of Batman mentored by Bruce Wayne. This Iron "Man" idea does not seem as well thought out.

lmao!

Maybe it's because I never liked comics, but forced diversity in superheroes seems like one of those things that is immanently survivable, even for a very non-PC old fart like me. If one's problem with Spiderman is that he's a black Hispanic and not his getting superpowers from a radioactive spider bite instead of rotting flesh, one needs one's connection to reality debugged.

 

[werepossum]

This ... X1000

Honestly, I never got how adults bought into the whole superhero genre in the first place.


Brian

My coworker who insists that the Earth is perpetually 6,000 years old was telling me how great is the latest Superman fights Batman movie. Seriously, you find evolution unbelievable but not a flying guy from another planet who has super strength and Xray vision because that planet has a special element not on our chart that serves no purpose beyond keeping people from flying and being super strong?

I mean, Superman pretty much IS G-d. Otherwise he wouldn't have time to fight crime, he'd be far too busy flying around looking through women's clothing. He IS a dude, right? If he has time to fight crime, then obviously he's holy.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

My coworker who insists that the Earth is perpetually 6,000 years old was telling me how great is the latest Superman fights Batman movie. Seriously, you find evolution unbelievable but not a flying guy from another planet who has super strength and Xray vision because that planet has a special element not on our chart that serves no purpose beyond keeping people from flying and being super strong?

I mean, Superman pretty much IS G-d. Otherwise he wouldn't have time to fight crime, he'd be far too busy flying around looking through women's clothing. He IS a dude, right? If he has time to fight crime, then obviously he's holy.

There are a lot of god/Judaism references in superman. He arrived at Earth like baby Moses, he is indestructible like old Hebrew golum tales, I've heard Superman's krypton's fathers name translates or is similar to the one father/first father which is a term used to describe god or something similar.

 

[WelshBloke]

Don't forget black hermoine

http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/vulture/2015/12/21/21-hermoine.w529.h529.jpg

I wonder if they'll cast a white woman to play Parvati Patil.

That's the one that I find most jarring (which is weird as I don't really like Harry Potter but I watch it with my kids). Its because she's supposed to be the same character, in the same story but with no effort at any continuity.

 

[SolMiester]

I can't take how everyone is changing gender, race, sexual orientation, etc. All these reimaginings and rewriting of history is just pandering to the audience. Creating a brand new superhero who is Chinese Muslim transgender is fine. But saying that Wolverine is now a Hasidic gay woman is just the laziest thing they can do and appear PC.

Nick Fury is black.

Thor is a woman.

Colossus is gay.

Spiderman is a black/Hispanic.

The Hulk is Asian.

Now Iron Man is a young black woman:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/omg-marvel-just-revealed-iron-153439919.html

Soon we may have a gay Captain America sleeping with Bucky:

http://www.wnd.com/2016/05/new-campaign-aims-to-make-captain-america-gay/

LOL, i know..it only takes a generation (15 yrs) to brainwash!...Now they have teenagers thinking gay is mother nature itself and the perfect environment to raise children.

Black people didnt actually write any super hero stuff, but we dont want anyone to feel left out.

PC is a joke!......and will be the fall of us all.

 

[yllus]

My coworker who insists that the Earth is perpetually 6,000 years old was telling me how great is the latest Superman fights Batman movie. Seriously, you find evolution unbelievable but not a flying guy from another planet who has super strength and Xray vision because that planet has a special element not on our chart that serves no purpose beyond keeping people from flying and being super strong?

I mean, Superman pretty much IS G-d. Otherwise he wouldn't have time to fight crime, he'd be far too busy flying around looking through women's clothing. He IS a dude, right? If he has time to fight crime, then obviously he's holy.

They actually play up the Superman is god angle pretty heavily in Batman vs. Superman. I like it; it's unsettling.