PLEASE HELP, I just killed my computer!!!

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Please help, I just killed my computer. Everything was fine until I decide to put in a new cpu heatsink/fan. I followed the instruction for Artic Sliver and removed the old fan, cleaned the cpu and attached the new heatsink/fan. I powered the computer back up, being statisfied with my work and got a no signal to my monitor. There were no beeps or anything. I got a AK31a motherboard and was running on XP1700 with 256 mb of Kingston ram. Please Help. Any help will greatly be appreciated. =....(

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cholley

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your bios may have fan detection, put your old fan back in and check for bios updates, i had this problem and my new fan was too fast for the bios
 

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Double check all connections etc since it`s possible you might of disturbed something without noticing it,try clearing the CMOS as well.
 

amdskip

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maybe you have an IDE cable hooked up wrong because sometimes a computer will refuse to boot if this is so
 

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I have the same motherboard. I have run into this problem also but mostly due to trying to o/c my chip. What you need to do is find the CMOS jumper. Follow your manuals directions. Unplug your power supply connection from the motherboard and re-position the jumper. Leave it that way for about 5-10 minutes. Put the jumper back to it's original position and then re-connect the PS cable to the motherboard. You should be able to boot up but will need to reset the bios to the correct settings.-Good Luck
 

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Okay I tried flashing my bios, checked all my cables and connections at least four times, and I still get nothing. When I turn on my comp, all I see is the cd rom trying to read, my hard drive light is on for a couple seconds and then stops. I get no video signal at all (my monitor just flashes its green led flight, which it normaly does when I turned off my comp and leave my monitor on) and no pc speaker sounds. *sigh*......

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Eliminate some things by disconneting all the IDE cables off the mobo, and try it with just 1 stick of ram in the first socket. Also remove all your add in cards except the video card. Hopefully something got out of position and is causing your problem and you don't have a bad CPU.
 

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Thanx wheezer, I'll try that. My manual says that I should only wait for a couple secs when I put the jumper to two-three position. Maybe a longer time on the reset (two-three) position will help

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Oh yeah thanx alot everybody for quickly replying. I hope I dont have to buy a new cpu/mobo *gulp* =(

thanx again
 

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Argh.... didn't work. Does anybody know how to tell if its your mobo or cpu that is fried?
 

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Is the video the only problem, or does the system not run. I have had a problem with getting no video signal several times after changing parts. My screen was black after booting up, but the system was running. I unplugged my monitor, then plugged it back in and it worked fine. Maybe the monitor just isn't detecting the signal. Try turning it off and on a couple of times. Then unplugging it and plugging it back in.
Hope this works.
 

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Actually nothing boots up. The Cdrom spins a couple times... but thats about it.

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DT4K

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Sorry we can't help more. There are so many things that could cause this. The only suggestion I have is to take everything apart, then put it back together with only the bare minimum of parts. I don't think you even need a hard drive to see if it will post. It seems unlikely that you could have killed your cpu or mobo by changing the heatsink. I would think that it must be something loose or something shorting out your board. Did you make sure no arctic silver got anywhere else besides the core. Check the cpu pins and make sure none got on them. Also make sure your heatsink isn't touching anywhere it shouldn't.
Good luck and let us know how things turn out.
 

Bozo Galora

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take off the heatsink again and inspect the cpu core for chipped edges or a crack accross the surface
that means you have thrown $200 in the toilet.

also: did you use a screwdriver to install HSF clip and did it slip off and bang into a motherboard trace
and ruin your $90 mobo?

 

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Well i took off the heatsink to check and there was no cracks or chips on the cpu core, but i did use a screw driver and did bang my mobo. I guess i killed my mobo cuz i tried everything else that the kind people on Anandtech have been telling me. Guess I made an newbie mistake, but then again I'm a newbie. ARGHHHHH!! So is this kind of stuff covered by a warranty? Probably not. =( What do you suppose to use to install the hsf anyway? Thanx again for all your help people.

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CubicZirconia

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I either get hs's with nice big clips (ie hhc-001) or be very very careful when installing the heatsink.
 

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Now I can see why I decided to go for a P4 with stock heatsink. Installing that is a breeze with no real danger to your mobo. I'd like to have the money now, but I don't.....

By the way, for installing heatsinks on Athlons, if you cover your screwdriver with silicon or rubber, would you still risk damaging the motherboard? It would be easy to do that and it may save people nightmares and long work hours :)

Edited: Typo
 

DSTA

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Have you looked at the damage the screw driver slipping has caused? If you just slipped a little there's a good chance the problem is elsewhere.

Serious suggestion: take the entire system apart, remove the PSU and just hook it up to the mobo on a sort of test bench. Use only CPU, HSF a single stick of RAM and the vid card (make sure it's seated well).

And perhaps it's worth sleeping over it -- does wonders for me if computer hardware really annoys me :).

 

SammyBoy

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Look at where you banged your mobo. If any traces are broken it most likely wont work, it happened to me with my death clip volcano2 back in the day. It cost a month of no computer and 40 bucks for asus to fix it
 

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Bro, screwdrivers kill!!! Sorry to say, but it ain't hard to kill your mobo with a screwdriver! :(
 

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Yeah I took apart everything again and did a careful inspection of my mobo. It seems I chipped one of the those tiny little resistors near my the cpu slot. You can barely see it. Boooooo. I'm sending the board back to shuttle and hopefully the wont charge me too much for to fix it (if it is fixable). Anyways thanx for all the help people. I really appreciate it. I guess now I could can start studying for the boards (which really suck). By the way anyone the best (safest) to install the hsf. Thanx again people

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WarCon

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I use masking tape on the board beneath the socket and on the screwdriver if its one of those pain in the neck kind of heatsinks. Not worth the worry not using it. Only takes a couple of seconds.

Sorry to hear about your board though, hopefully they will just RMA you a new one.