Please give me a couple examples of children harmed by pornography.

[kranky]

Here's one.

 

[dolph]

notfred, why do you start threads like this? you don't want arguments against your position. you're obviously only looking for people to agree with you. do you want to know the fundamental reason why adults try to shield their kids from pornography?

because it is sex without love or consequences. most rational people would agree that something as intimate as sex is best when it's between two people that care deeply about each other. pornography says it's fine to fvck anything. do you want your kids to feel that sex is something to be taken lightly? would you feel comfortable with your teenage daughter watching a video showing a few girls deciding they're really horny so they orders a pizza just to give the delivery boy a blowjob? why or why not? this doesn't even start to touch on accidental pregancies or stds.

as a culture, americans might be too uptight about sex. others might be too loose. i think there needs to be a common ground that allows for sex to exist in everyday life, that lets us talk about it without thinking it's a sin. i think that columns like savage love and shows like loveline are good starts to frank and open discussions about accepting our sexuality, and not trying to hide it under the rug.

violence is another story. there's about 1,000 times too much violence out there right now, and i think that's not too healthy for us, either.

 

[SagaLore]

me 🙁

 

[IGBT]

Mabe early exposure to porn may explain bill clinton's zipper problem...

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Examples of harm? I think one need only read a few threads here concerning women to see proof of the harm.
The human body is a work of art and there is nothing wrong with enjoying looking at naked women.However we have a young generation that's been so exposed to this stuff that they routinely objectify women,grading them as if they were slabs of beef while at the same time being totally and utterly clueless as to how to approach and deal with women in real time.

Booyeah! You go girl!

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: notfred
I really don't get this. I'm not talking about pedophiles, just photographs or maybe a video. I could see how you'd think your kid had a problem when he's collecting hundreds of gigs of pornography, but if your kid accidentally happens upon a site with a porn pop-up or two, who cares? I don't see the problem.

EDIT: No I don't have kids and no, the "you'll feel different when you have kids of your own" line isn't going to help me to see your point of view.

When driving long distances alone, I find my mind wandering in many directions. On occasion, a horror movie I saw years before starts playing in my head. It's really disturbing to know that every single thing we see, observe, experience, becomes a permanent part of who we are.

The problem with porn at such an early age is that it takes away a child's innocence. Let the child be a child, let them grow up naturally, they don't need to be brainwashed into a sexual cult of disrespect for women.

 

[nord1899]

Originally posted by: dolph
notfred, why do you start threads like this? you don't want arguments against your position. you're obviously only looking for people to agree with you. do you want to know the fundamental reason why adults try to shield their kids from pornography?

because it is sex without love or consequences. most rational people would agree that something as intimate as sex is best when it's between two people that care deeply about each other. pornography says it's fine to fvck anything. do you want your kids to feel that sex is something to be taken lightly? would you feel comfortable with your teenage daughter watching a video showing a few girls deciding they're really horny so they orders a pizza just to give the delivery boy a blowjob? why or why not? this doesn't even start to touch on accidental pregancies or stds.

as a culture, americans might be too uptight about sex. others might be too loose. i think there needs to be a common ground that allows for sex to exist in everyday life, that lets us talk about it without thinking it's a sin. i think that columns like savage love and shows like loveline are good starts to frank and open discussions about accepting our sexuality, and not trying to hide it under the rug.

violence is another story. there's about 1,000 times too much violence out there right now, and i think that's not too healthy for us, either.

Heh, so I wasn't the only one to think that notfred has made a thread like this before. With similar responses from him as well.

 

[gopunk]

the neighbor kid got crushed to death when his older brother's gargantuan stack of porn fell on him

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Ameesh
i think its very natural for a kid to be curious about it, in fact it s probably a very healthy and normal thing to be curious about.

i think those gestapo like parents are screwing up there kids more by trying to forcibally censor the workd from them rather then trying to educate and help their child understand and put what they see in a context.

Maybe a 10 year old should sit and watch their parents have sex while swearing at each other and filling every orifice with an oversized dildo? Great education right?

 

[Spamela]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Examples of harm? I think one need only read a few threads here concerning women to see proof of the harm.
The human body is a work of art and there is nothing wrong with enjoying looking at naked women.However we have a young generation that's been so exposed to this stuff that they routinely objectify women,grading them as if they were slabs of beef while at the same time being totally and utterly clueless as to how to approach and deal with women in real time.

exactly.

pornography degrades human beings, whether they're watching, making, or otherwise participating in it.

 

the neighbor kid got crushed to death when his older brother's gargantuan stack of porn fell on him

Ah, another bright individual adding great depth and insight to this discussion.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: notfred

Originally posted by: Roger
If you had seen his reaction Notfred, you would understand completely, his young mind is not ready for this filth yet, his emotional stability has been affected, would you give your child a harmful thing ?

Now what if he goues to school and says to another child that he had seen a man stick his firehose into a woman ?
Whammo, child welfare will be knocking on my door, this is besides the point that he has been scarred this incident.

I don't know how old your son is, but I'd really doubt he's scarred by it. I guess he's probably between 6 and 8 or so, seeing as how he goes to school and has homework. When I was 8 or 9, some kid on my block stole some dirty magazines from his dad or something, and we looked at them out of curiosity. We thought some of the stuff in there was pretty gross, but it was hardly scarring. If we went to school the next day and told someone else we'd seen a porn magazine, we'd hardly have been hauled off to foster homes. Hell, I'd seen much more disturbing acts of violence in movies anyway. I never had nightmares after seeing porn, but it happened a couple times after violent movies.

Pscyhological scarring doesn't always have to involve "fear".

 

[cressida]

watch this grow.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: Ameesh
I think if your parents are responsible and can provide you with a context to what you are seeing, both parties come out for the better.

Most parents like to decide when to begin sexual education with their children,this timing is influenced by a lot of factor's,having to explain because hardcore appeared on the screen while searching for something totally innocous is not usually the best way to go about it.

Plus, "porn" doesn't have anything to do with "sex".

Porn is fake, acted, exagerated, indulged. A kid looking at porn introduces them into a "fantasy" that can never be fulfilled in real life with a real person.

Notfred, if you had a daughter would you still be inclined to show her some porn as a gateway into a conversation about sex?

 

[LoqT]

I have blisters all over my genitals. I would call that harm.

 

[Geekbabe]

I've raised 2 daughters and one son.All I ever wanted for them was to grow up happy and secure with who they are.I didn't want my girls to compare themselves to 2D airbrushed images and hate themselves for not measuring up.I don't want a son who's so isolated that his only interactions with women involve 2D images in a magazine or on a monitor.

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: dolph
notfred, why do you start threads like this? you don't want arguments against your position. you're obviously only looking for people to agree with you.

Are you referring to my post where I asked someone to stop posting after he basically said, "You're a loser who can't get any in real life. All you can get is porn, and that's why you're defending it."

I welcome arguments against my position, I don't welcome personal insults.

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Examples of harm? I think one need only read a few threads here concerning women to see proof of the harm.
The human body is a work of art and there is nothing wrong with enjoying looking at naked women.However we have a young generation that's been so exposed to this stuff that they routinely objectify women,grading them as if they were slabs of beef while at the same time being totally and utterly clueless as to how to approach and deal with women in real time.

I hardly think that's porn specific. It applies equally as much, if not moreso to Brittney Spears and Jenifer Love Hewitt and all those other TV stars who we only see with thier clothes on. I know what you're talking about, and it's evidenced by the "fugly" replies to posts involving non-famous women, but I hardly think the judgements are made solely based on pornography as an example of how women look.

 

[jaeger66]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Examples of harm? I think one need only read a few threads here concerning women to see proof of the harm.
The human body is a work of art and there is nothing wrong with enjoying looking at naked women.However we have a young generation that's been so exposed to this stuff that they routinely objectify women,grading them as if they were slabs of beef while at the same time being totally and utterly clueless as to how to approach and deal with women in real time.

That's hardly the exclusive province of porn. You can turn on any network TV show and be bombarded with images of perfect women, the likes of whom few people will ever come across IRL. We let children watch cartoons of Wile E Coyote getting flattened by a steamroller but seeing a boob is going to scar them? Ridiculous.

 

I am ending this discussion with you Notfred, I have made my point, there is nothing else for me to say about this subject.

 

[Azraele]

but I hardly think the judgements are made solely based on pornography as an example of how women look.

Of course they're not solely based, but it does play a part.

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: SagaLore
Notfred, if you had a daughter would you still be inclined to show her some porn as a gateway into a conversation about sex?

Who said I'd show any child of mine porn as a gateway into a conversation about sex? Did anybody in this thread even suggest that someone might do that with either a son or daughter?

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: Roger

the neighbor kid got crushed to death when his older brother's gargantuan stack of porn fell on him

Ah, another bright individual adding great depth and insight to this discussion.

i do my best 😀

 

[LeeTJ]

change title. the first time i saw this, i thought you were talking about Child Pornography which i'm vehemently against.

if my child happens to see porn, no i'm not that concerned about that.

 

[Rainsford]

I'd say because exposure to pornography at a young age can impact the natural development of a child into a sexual person. Those of us old enough to know understand that porn does not represent how a real relationship works (at least it doesn't for me). But kids might not understand the difference, and that can hinder their natural development. It is the same reason I don't think it's good for kids to watch really violent movies, it can lead to a distorted view of the world if the kid is too young to know the difference between fantasy and reality.