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Dr. Detroit

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Only reason he's in rehab is they changed the Oxy formula - they have now made them gummy like Skittles - The $700M fine helped force the change.

No more scraping the coating and snorting the powder. Heroin use is on a major uptick because of the OXY change.
 

SunnyD

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"I can quit whenever I want."

Anyway. If you are serious, congrats on the new life and hope you can stay with it. In the meantime, you owe your roommate $45k worth of buttsex. Guess you'll be smoking something else from now on, eh?
 

zinfamous

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also got to find something to bust my balls about, the kids got over 30 million in the bank and spends more money then i've ever seen, 45k is chump change.

if any of this is true, then your friend is stupid.

if it's easy enough for him to blow 45k on a 50/50 chance for his addict buddy to get clean, then I'm sure he's blowing more money on even dumber pursuits.

seriously, he should give us money so that it can actually do something.


so what happened, po-po bust down your operation, sent you into the klink, got you down the rehab road?
 

Heller

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I went because i wanted to change, yes they did chance the OC formula to OP but theirs ways around it.and the roxys are still fine so i mainly stuck to those.
 

Perknose

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ROFL!! 12 step programs are about as effective as cold turkey. Rehab is better, but neither is all that great.

Wow. You bald-faced assertion shows that you literally don't know what you're talking about. 12 step programs are THE most effective method yet devised for keeping people sober. Your ignorance is showing, big time.
 
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BoomerD

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It doesn't matter if it's one of the Million Dollar Celebrity Rehab places, a 12 step program, or the Betty Ford Clinic...if the addict doesn't WANT to stop, they're going right back to the same behavior once they get out.
IMO, most of the celebrity rehab places only exist to provide celebrities a place to go to avoid jail time. "Oh your honor, Mary Jane Rottencrotch has spent the past 30 days in the "I'm Too Important" rehab program, and has turned her life around. Putting her in jail like a common criminal would be a travesty of justice."
Mary Jane says, "SNORT!, Thas rite judge...I'm<sniff-sniff> a new person."

:rolleyes:


Funny how Heller has claimed to ONLY be a pot smoker all these many months...now, all of a sudden, he's an opiate addict?
Sounds like he got busted for something and now he's trying to keep his ass out of jail.
 

Malak

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Good luck Heller, hope everything works well for you. Might want to find something else besides your xbox, that could get dull fast. Puzzle books, like soduko!

And ignore all the pricks that want to ruin a good thing. They are probably just jealous anyway.
 

Numenorean

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Funny how Heller has claimed to ONLY be a pot smoker all these many months...now, all of a sudden, he's an opiate addict?
Sounds like he got busted for something and now he's trying to keep his ass out of jail.

He probably didn't hide his stuff so well from the police like he said he was going to in his thread bragging about all the illegal stuff he does.
 

nick1985

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And ignore all the pricks that want to ruin a good thing. They are probably just jealous anyway.

What exactly am I jealous of? Some drugged up loser on the internet telling a story about how his roommate has 30 million dollars and is forking over 45k out of the goodness of his heart to send the OP to a fancy rehab resort?

Does that seriously not raise any red flags to you? If not, let me know and I might have a long lost relative from Nigeria that wants to speak to you
 

meltdown75

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sending sincere good luck vibes your way. you can do it.

just remember the drugs aren't who you are, just something you did... you will wake up one day and think... what the hell am i doing to do now that i'm not getting high? to answer that, just think - it doesn't matter. all that matters is you know what you WON'T be doing. life is a gift... good luck
 

GagHalfrunt

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Wow. You bald-faced assertion shows that you literally don't know what you're talking about. 12 step programs are THE most effective method yet devised for keeping people sober. Your ignorance is showing, big time.

Wanna bet? Alcoholics Anonymous covers up their effectiveness rate because they're ashamed of it. A few former employees have smuggled out some of their internal documents and the effective rate of your magical 12 step program is LESS than 5&#37;. LESS THAN FIVE PERCENT.

It's okay to be stupid, but try not to be loud and stupid. Get your facts straight before screaming your ignorance for the world to see. 12 step programs ARE BULLSHIT! Seriously, admit you're powerless and trust a higher power to control your life. And you think that works? ROFL!!!! Try asking the Catholic Church how effective they are in hoping priests can pray away the gay. The facts are out there, there's no excuse for you to live in utter cluelessness.
 

zinfamous

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Wanna bet? Alcoholics Anonymous covers up their effectiveness rate because they're ashamed of it. A few former employees have smuggled out some of their internal documents and the effective rate of your magical 12 step program is LESS than 5%. LESS THAN FIVE PERCENT.

It's okay to be stupid, but try not to be loud and stupid. Get your facts straight before screaming your ignorance for the world to see. 12 step programs ARE BULLSHIT! Seriously, admit you're powerless and trust a higher power to control your life. And you think that works? ROFL!!!! Try asking the Catholic Church how effective they are in hoping priests can pray away the gay. The facts are out there, there's no excuse for you to live in utter cluelessness.

I am not going to call myself a fan of AA and their strategy, but "an employee smuggling out some internal documents" as your evidence leaves me rather baffled.

this is like...tin foil hat area.

I think you are anti-AA b/c you are anti-God in general. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, but I seriously question the validity of 5% success.
 

Heller

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never got arrested, was doing nothing illegal except smoking pot,i got the drugs from a script, its not hard to find opiates in south Florida, its easier to find a pill dealer then a pot dealer

still have my job at office depot, my manager is also in recovery so he let me take a 30 day break from work. AND TO everyone sitting here trying to clown on me you can go fuck yourself, you have no idea how hard addiction is to break just look at cigs,i dont know a kid on campus that doesn't smoke them. There all addicted, were all addicted to something to at one point, my choice unfortunately was drugs.
 

GagHalfrunt

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I am not going to call myself a fan of AA and their strategy, but "an employee smuggling out some internal documents" as your evidence leaves me rather baffled.

this is like...tin foil hat area.

I think you are anti-AA b/c you are anti-God in general. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, but I seriously question the validity of 5&#37; success.

Here's something from George Valliant, a renowned Hardvard researcher in addiction treatments and former Trustee of AA

""It seemed perfectly clear that . . . by inexorably moving patients from dependence upon the general hospital into the treatment system of AA, I was working for the most exciting alcohol program in the world. But then came the rub. Fueled by our enthusiasm, I and the director . . . tried to prove our efficacy. Our clinic followed up our first 100 detoxification patients. . . . [and found] compelling evidence that the results of our treatment were no better than the natural history of the disease."

http://cbtrecovery.org/AAefficacyrates.htm


Like I said to Perk, there are plenty of facts out there and it takes a special kind of buffoonery to argue in the face of ALL OF THEM. AA's lack of effectiveness is well documented and pretty much undisputed. Even AA themselves can't produce any evidence to suggest the thousands of studies done on them are wrong. Do a little reading on your own, do a little research, educate yourself and then let's see what you have to say.

In a nutshell, the people who try to quit on their own do as well as the most famous 12 step program in the world and some studies suggest that they do BETTER than the 12 step program and the 12 step program can't refute it.
 
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