Plateau'd....for a year....

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prism

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I drastically changed my lifestyle for the better 3.5 years ago, when I was 25 yrs old, 6', 290 lbs and ~35% bf according to one of the inaccurate handheld bf measurers. I cut out most processed food and soda for about 1.5 years and worked with a trainer/winged it by myself and got down to about 270 and 30% bf.

Roughly 2 years ago I went strict paleo and started stronglifts. I became much stronger and dropped to about 258 at 28% bf after a few months. I kept at it and for the next ~9 mos my weight loss slowed down to bring me down to about 245 at 26% bf (according to calipers).

Since then, I've done stronglifts for a few months at a time, switched to a bodybuilder push/pull/legs 3x week routine, gone back to stronglifts + HIIT, and kept my diet VERY clean (although not strict paleo anymore) with 1 cheat day a week. My weight hasn't gone down below 245 and while I haven't tested my bf in quite awhile, my waist has been stuck at 47 inches (despite getting away with size 38 jeans) for almost a year.

I've gone through stints of counting calories and weighing my food, and when I do I keep it just below maintenance as recommended, but this hasn't helped at all. I've cut my carbs down to vegetables, minimal fruit and extremely minimal starch, been mostly gluten free, pound kale smoothies like it's my job, have 1 regular soda on my cheat day and at most 2 diet sodas during the wook, and am now working out 4-6 days a week, but no matter what I do I can't drop below 245.

A few times in the last year I've gone "off the wagon" for about a week at a time and put on 5+ lbs each time easily. I HAVE developed the "V" taper, my arms are more vascular when working out than guys far more ripped than me, and I get compliments from friends that I haven't seen in awhile for looking much better than in the past, but for the life of me my belly won't go away. I've put so much time and pain into the gym, and while I enjoy every minute of it, I feel like I'm not gaining anything any more besides muscles that are constantly sore and knotted.

I've always been completely "natural," but I'm at the point where I'm tempted to try an ECA stack or go to a nutritionist and try one of these new-fangled meal replacement programs such as HMR, which my friend has used to drop from 360 to 260 in 4 months.

Has anyone else gone through this frustration for this long? Is my only hope to suck it up and measure out every damn calorie for the rest of my life???

/end rant/cry for help :(
 

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You said you counted calories, but you still eat too much. It's a physiological impossibility that your body does not lose weight maintaining its essential functions if you eat below maintenance.
 

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without seeing your physical appearance, the numbers don't seem like much weight loss or bodyfat loss given the amount of time you have been training. Heck, if you went from a non-workout lifestyle and then hit the gym hard, you would probably loose 10-15 lbs in first 4-8 wks. it took you 18 months to lose 20...

You are eating too much relative to what you burn. Just as simple as that.

Like I said, not sure what you look like, or how big that "belly" is. I can tell you, if I were 6' tall, 245 would be a pretty good weight for me. regardless, you are down 45 lbs which is great even though it took a long time to get there.


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and you will still be natural taking ECA
 
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prism

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Most caloric maintenance calculators say that my maintenance level is ~3000 calories, as I choose moderate physical activity since I work out 4-6 days a week and do either Stronglifts + HIIT or a crossfit WOD (sometimes scaled) + a bit of extra cardio, usually rowing 1000-1500 meters. My BMR is usually reported as ~2100. If anything, I think I might be eating too few calories...
 

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Calculators should be used as a starting point. You have to personally adjust as you go. You are probably eating too few calories to build mass, and eating too much to lose a reasonable amount of weight, thus maintaining. Make up your mind on whether you want to gain mass or cut weight.
 

mple

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Also, anecdotal experience here but I feel lethargic and all my lifts stall when I'm eating near maintenance calories.
 

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First congrats on losing 45lbs :)

Calculators should be used as a starting point. You have to personally adjust as you go. You are probably eating too few calories to build mass, and eating too much to lose a reasonable amount of weight, thus maintaining. Make up your mind on whether you want to gain mass or cut weight.

Indeed.

Start off with say 3000calories. Be as consistent as you can. If by the 2nd week you have lost no weight, drop to 2800calories. Keep on going. You will lose weight. You just have to be honest with yourself and as consistent as you can. Change the soda for diet soda if you can. It's completely empty calories.

Koing
 

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As we know, our bodies over millions of years inherited the ability to store fat when food is plenty so that when food is scarce we will survive (on those fat stores).

The trouble is that food is never scarce.

We're always told that we need to eat more when we workout. That is completely untrue if there's excess fat to be burned.

When I am hungry I can feed myself with food or remain hungry and let my body feed on its own fat.

Once I got used to eating a light dinner I could get my body to consume that fat while I slept, and I got thin fast. The way I knew it was working was that I woke up quite hungry.

The food industry tells us that we should never go hungry (I would have lost my job had it not been for that Snickers bar!).

Our bodies do best on seeds, nuts, fruit, veggies, birds (without the skin), and fish.

Our bodies do worse on red meat (including pork), dairy (except nonfat - I much prefer Trader Joe's unsweetened soy milk), eggs, sugar, excess salt, anything fried, etc. These have been linked to heart disease and/or hardening of the arteries and/or blockage of the arteries and/or diabetes and/or cancer...
 
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