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TraumaRN

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Here is a shoddy house for you ;) It's on my campus. Just hit refresh to see differing pics.

EDIT: dangit link didnt link....:p

Rather have Biltmore in Ashville NC, it's 180,000 square feet. :p

But I like new large homes.

The 10,000 square foot one I was in was old, built in 1940. Didn't like it much.

The 30,000 one was brand new. Awesome and much more unique than the older house.

urgh....

:shurg;

The nice part is since I goto school there I can go to meadowbrook anytime. Just about a mile walk down the road. :p
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
so what if I were to say 3500sq ft. ?

Woud lthat we small, large?

It is a FRIGGEN MARBLE STAIRCASE= 1000s of square feet

So you have no idea how big these houses are?

Do you have any concept of square footage of a house? Of what's big, what's small, whats average?

I could put a marble staircase in my dinky 2 bed, 2 bath 1,500 square foot townhouse. That doesn't make it big.

urgh....


keep arguing to win man, that's real nice and boosts your ego like you wouldn't believe.


I'm sure you live nice and dandy in your little palace.

I have nothing to prove to you.

You obviosuly have some sort of alterior agenda so fine, you "win" and know more about the classification of mansions.


That was not my fvking point. I simply said that we are in homes everday that are much larger than our own, and that blinds us to how large our home really is.


It might not be as majestic as the palace you posted from the carolinas, it might not have endless amounts of sqaure footage, but it is our home, a quality one at that, and we love and appreciate it, more so with each passing day since we are remodeling it.

You know what, be happy with what you have and stop trying to outclass everybody. It not only breeds antagonism but it compeltely destroys any hope of coherent discussion.
 

Kilgor

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
lol....you're kidding right?

The original question had nothing to do with quality. You just told me about a staircase.

I said, what do you consider "enormous"? Numbers.


'Enormous'

Just hit refresh to see differing pictures

usually they are a lot smaller and getting a client with such a large home is rare, but it does happen. The ones that we have been at that are naywhere near that size have been contemporary designs....modern art even...



<--always wanted to see a F.L. Wright house in person:(

Why don't you go here .

 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: Kilgor
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
lol....you're kidding right?

The original question had nothing to do with quality. You just told me about a staircase.

I said, what do you consider "enormous"? Numbers.


'Enormous'

Just hit refresh to see differing pictures

usually they are a lot smaller and getting a client with such a large home is rare, but it does happen. The ones that we have been at that are naywhere near that size have been contemporary designs....modern art even...



<--always wanted to see a F.L. Wright house in person:(

Why don't you go here .

cool:cool:

ther is a very famous post and lintle design of his with large concrete slads called 'waterfalls' or soemthing...

THAT is the one I'd truly love to see:D
 

JLGatsby

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Originally posted by: DeathBUA
The nice part is since I goto school there I can go to meadowbrook anytime. Just about a mile walk down the road. :p

Some schools use actually former mansions as their primary buildings. Don't know if they have any classrooms in the mansion you posted.

Take the Webb Institute, they use The Braes, it's their entire school. I believe when the owner died he donated it them like 50 or 60 years ago.

It was Bruce Wayne's mansion in the one of the Batman movies (the one with Jim Carrey as the Riddler).

http://www.ligoldcoast.com/images/Webb.JPG
 

TraumaRN

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
The nice part is since I goto school there I can go to meadowbrook anytime. Just about a mile walk down the road. :p

Some schools use actually former mansions as their primary buildings. Don't know if they have any classrooms in the mansion you posted.

Take the Webb Institute, they use The Braes, it's their entire school. I believe when the owner died he donated it them like 50 or 60 years ago.

It was Bruce Wayne's mansion in the one of the Batman movies (the one with Jim Carrey as the Riddler).

http://www.ligoldcoast.com/images/Webb.JPG

No no, it's a historical mansion now. They use it for a number of purposes but classes definitely not!
 

JLGatsby

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
It might not be as majestic as the palace you posted from the carolinas, it might not have endless amounts of sqaure footage, but it is our home, a quality one at that, and we love and appreciate it, more so with each passing day since we are remodeling it.

You never said your house was big, it's probably bigger than mine. Hope so, I live alone and I'm cramped and need more space.

All you said "enormous" and I said "define enormous" (basically).

Some people think these 5 or 6,000 square foot cookie cutters are "enormous," I certainly disagree.

All I said was to define your definition of enormous. Not trying to "outclass" anyone and I define it as 20,000 square foot+, because unlike most, I've been in large houses (although never lived in one), so I have an idea of what certain amounts of space is like.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
It might not be as majestic as the palace you posted from the carolinas, it might not have endless amounts of sqaure footage, but it is our home, a quality one at that, and we love and appreciate it, more so with each passing day since we are remodeling it.

You never said your house was big, it's probably bigger than mine. Hope so, I live alone and I'm cramped and need more space.

All you said "enormous" and I said "define enormous" (basically).

Some people think these 5 or 6,000 square foot cookie cutters are "enormous," I certainly disagree.

All I said was to define your definition of enormous. Not trying to "outclass" anyone and I define it as 20,000 square foot+, because unlike most, I've been in large houses (although never lived in one), so I have an idea of what certain amounts of space is like.

now you are just playing games. I am being cordial by assuming that you know what you are talking about.

I would assume that if I gave you details such as a $50k-100k marble staircase at the entrance would be enough to give you some insight on how big the palce really is.

The key is, that was off topic and I feel no need to answer if since there is no reason why I should have to assuage your understanding for every little thing. When I do follow through ,I do it as a courtesy, and you are abusing it.


I simply menat that we work on a lot of houses, many that are rather large, with liberal and conservative interpretations of the word 'large,' and we many times find shoddy workmanship.

to be fair though, builders like toll brothers and baremur do quality.....it's usually some of their hired hands or stuff they contract out that is bad.

For the most part, they do good work.


Like many people haver retiterated , there is a fine line between quality and quantity, and Toll B's houses are custom so they are catering the frugal or miserly attitude of their buyers....

simply because a buyer is cheap and doesn;t want to pay extra for quality doesn't mean tolld and braemur deserve all of the blame.

that said, we never EVER do shoddy work. if the custoemr wants shoddy work for a shoddy price, we simpyl turn them down or place a rather high so we don't insult and alienate them

we do quality, and ONLY quality. makes getting bids through a bitch, but it keeps ourreviews..


well...they have always been impeccable
 

JLGatsby

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
I would assume that if I gave you details such as a $50k-100k marble staircase at the entrance would be enough to give you some insight on how big the palce really is.

Just curious, is this marble on each step of the staircase of just the floor beneath it?

Now for like the 10th time, I'm just asking, do you have a number of what you consider to be "enormous"? I'm not goign to bash it, or say "that's not big!" Just curious. What's "enormous" to you? Do you have a number in terms of square footage?
 

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
I would assume that if I gave you details such as a $50k-100k marble staircase at the entrance would be enough to give you some insight on how big the palce really is.

Just curious, is this marble on each step of the staircase of just the floor beneath it?

Now for like the 10th time, I'm just asking, do you have a number of what you consider to be "enormous"? I'm not goign to bash it, or say "that's not big!" Just curious. What's "enormous" to you? Do you have a number in terms of square footage?

I do have numbers, but I feel no need to give them to you.

Simpy said, the discussion branched out into quality vs quantity, and I was asked what I meant by small wehn describing my house.

Then I admitted that the only reason I call it small is because we are working regularly in much larger habitations....

then you asked me what I meant by enormous, and I gave you some details.

I don;t want to insult your intelligence and I don't want to have some bullsH!t discussion on the definition of enormous because I am smell that you are out for the kill right now, and could care less about what enormous means.

Simply put, you are hopefully smart enough to surmize your own theories.
 

OdiN

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Hey Gatsby. I saw the place. It was 11ty Billion Square Miles.

But that's tiny compared to where I live.
 

Goosemaster

Lifer
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Originally posted by: OdiN
Hey Gatsby. I saw the place. It was 11ty Billion Square Miles.

But that's tiny compared to where I live.

I need to chill at Planet OdiN sometime....don't have the money for the oxygen though:(
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: OdiN
Hey Gatsby. I saw the place. It was 11ty Billion Square Miles.

But that's tiny compared to where I live.

I need to chill at Planet OdiN sometime....don't have the money for the oxygen though:(

I'll spot you some.

I'll give Gatsby enough to get here and back, minus 30 minutes.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Ever been in one? Most of those 'ghetto' houses have been around since the 50s-60s(alot of times longer) and they are still standing. The biggest danger from them is lead paint.

I have yet to hear of any reports of cookie cutter houses collasping. You act like they're made of cardboard.

I live in a house less than 5 years old and it's built 10 times better than the 50+ year old house I grew up in. The floors are sturdier and quiet, and walls feel more solid when you pound on them, everything is superior.

It's just "fashionable" to bash suburbia and exaggerate about the quality, which is what most do.

They pretty much are. Drywall is such a crappy construction material....I don't know why everyone wants a carbon-copy life THAT SUCKS ANYWAY. Working a crappy job pushing paper for 50 years, driving an identical car to your identical house with an identical lawn...it's the American Dream, call now to receive YOUR American Dream at our lowest price ever!

Glad you're happy with it, but I feel about the same way about that lifestyle as I do about those people in Florida I talked to after Ivan who said "well, that's just the price you pay to live in paradise." It's just proof that people will often delude themselves about how good their lives are, to avoid having to face the truth. It seems to me a more expensive and less effective route than drugs, but I suppose that's just too working-class for them.