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Pizza Is Life

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Chaotic42 said:
My understanding is, and I'll have to check with my accountant, but my understanding is that when pizza is on a bagel, you can have pizza any time.

Any... time...

It's almost too much power.
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Trojan pizzas are the Pentagon's secret weapon.
 
Muse said:
Katie Couric narrates this must-see documentary on how insidiously what you eat can affect your life. I've watched it 3 times:

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Yes, Katie Couric narrates the documentary "Fed Up". The 2014 documentary explores the relationship between sugar, the food industry, and the rise of childhood obesity. It also touches on the issue of how the food industry has misled consumers and the US government.

"For the past 30 years, everything we thought we knew about food and exercise is dead wrong. FED UP is the film the food industry doesn't want you to see. From Katie Couric, Laurie David (Oscar winning producer of AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH) and director Stephanie Soechtig, FED UP will change the way you eat forever."
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I always love when a balanced diet and an active lifestyle are presented as a revelation for living a heavy life.

Clowns.
 
JujuFish said:
I remember reading somewhere that

(1) fat cells never disappear
(2) fat cells affect hunger by releasing hormones
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sad .. but accurate. relatively recent finding, too, because obesity is pretty much a modern affliction, but also because we didn't have the science bits needed to find this out.
you CAN permanently lose fat cells. It takes several years of maintenance, you basically need to keep lean and wait for the cells to die, they won't be replaced by other empty fat cells.

I know this is a thread about the joy of stuffing yo' face, but i'd like to point out that our problem is not calorie consumption, it's the extreme reduction in physical strain that the majority of people experience. i recall reading a US Marine saying "a diet of 5000 calories a day (twice the food of an ACTIVE city human) will starve anyone in Boot Camp".

The point in my life where i was thinnest and healthiest i was not being conservative at all with food. Fried chicken, eat whenever you want, always go for Large, eat whatever you want, ice cream, but i was also sleeping 30 hours a week, going to college in the morning and to the afterhours at night, gigging, walking, partying, cube dancing even, adding calories with beer and removing them with extasy. I was ridiculously active and just couldn't keep the weight on.

Then i sat down in front of a work PC and .. game over man.
 
Muse said:
It's something of a guilty pleasure. I went for a few years (until about 2 years ago) without eating pizza unless it was served to me somewhere. But I started making it again, weekly, and adjusted my lifestyle so on balance I'm eating OK.

I mean, let's be honest. Not a great source of fiber. Tends to be high in sodium, I'd think, fatty because of the cheese and typical meats.

Once a week, I'll indulge it.

OK, now you talk...
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I make pizza every week. And I eat that pizza every week. I'm 5'11 and weigh 154 and have 14% body fat. My triglycerides are rock bottom. And my doctor says I'm in great health.
 
DigDog said:
sad .. but accurate. relatively recent finding, too, because obesity is pretty much a modern affliction, but also because we didn't have the science bits needed to find this out.
you CAN permanently lose fat cells. It takes several years of maintenance, you basically need to keep lean and wait for the cells to die, they won't be replaced by other empty fat cells.
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I should be well on my way! Still stuck with excess skin from my time spent being obese though, not quite vain enough to submit to a medical procedure to get rid of it.
bigboxes said:
I make pizza every week. And I eat that pizza every week. I'm 5'11 and weigh 154 and have 14% body fat. My triglycerides are rock bottom. And my doctor says I'm in great health.
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I don't make my own pizza, but similar story otherwise. Blood pressure has gotten low enough to the point she asked to make sure that I wasn't feeling light-headed.
 
nakedfrog said:
I should be well on my way! Still stuck with excess skin from my time spent being obese though, not quite vain enough to submit to a medical procedure to get rid of it.

I don't make my own pizza, but similar story otherwise. Blood pressure has gotten low enough to the point she asked to make sure that I wasn't feeling light-headed.
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I've been asked if I was a runner. My answer at the time was yes. I have arthritis in my right foot and can no longer run. I miss it. I mean, I could run. But then I'd be crippled for a week. Many times my blood pressure runs pretty low. If it's 120/80 it's high.
 
pizza is just bread and tomato, with maybe half a ball of mozzarella and a handful of veggies. and idk, 20-30 grams of meat at best. seriously how tf is that unhealthy.
steak is not unhealthy. cheese is not unhealthy. even ice cream is not unhealthy if you eat appropriately. eating like a fucking black hole is unhealthy, even if you stuff your face with salad and ricecakes.
 
DigDog said:
sad .. but accurate. relatively recent finding, too, because obesity is pretty much a modern affliction, but also because we didn't have the science bits needed to find this out.
you CAN permanently lose fat cells. It takes several years of maintenance, you basically need to keep lean and wait for the cells to die, they won't be replaced by other empty fat cells.

I know this is a thread about the joy of stuffing yo' face, but i'd like to point out that our problem is not calorie consumption, it's the extreme reduction in physical strain that the majority of people experience. i recall reading a US Marine saying "a diet of 5000 calories a day (twice the food of an ACTIVE city human) will starve anyone in Boot Camp".

The point in my life where i was thinnest and healthiest i was not being conservative at all with food. Fried chicken, eat whenever you want, always go for Large, eat whatever you want, ice cream, but i was also sleeping 30 hours a week, going to college in the morning and to the afterhours at night, gigging, walking, partying, cube dancing even, adding calories with beer and removing them with extasy. I was ridiculously active and just couldn't keep the weight on.

Then i sat down in front of a work PC and .. game over man.
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i recall reading a US Marine saying "a diet of 5000 calories a day (twice the food of an ACTIVE city human) will starve anyone in Boot Camp".
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Greatest swimmer of all time,

Michael Phelps is widely considered the greatest swimmer of all time. He holds the record for the most Olympic medals won in swimming, with a total of 28 medals (23 gold, 3 silver, and 2 bronze). He also holds the record for the most gold medals won in a single Olympics, with 8 golds at the 2008 Beijing Games.

He used to burn 10,000 calories a day, mostly in the pool, obviously.
 
Muse said:
Greatest swimmer of all time,

Michael Phelps is widely considered the greatest swimmer of all time. He holds the record for the most Olympic medals won in swimming, with a total of 28 medals (23 gold, 3 silver, and 2 bronze). He also holds the record for the most gold medals won in a single Olympics, with 8 golds at the 2008 Beijing Games.

He used to burn 10,000 calories a day, mostly in the pool, obviously.
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Muse said:
Greatest swimmer of all time,

Michael Phelps is widely considered the greatest swimmer of all time. He holds the record for the most Olympic medals won in swimming, with a total of 28 medals (23 gold, 3 silver, and 2 bronze). He also holds the record for the most gold medals won in a single Olympics, with 8 golds at the 2008 Beijing Games.

He used to burn 10,000 calories a day, mostly in the pool, obviously.
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bigboxes said:
I've been asked if I was a runner. My answer at the time was yes. I have arthritis in my right foot and can no longer run. I miss it. I mean, I could run. But then I'd be crippled for a week. Many times my blood pressure runs pretty low. If it's 120/80 it's high.
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I ran for a couple decades and one day had to stop, the pain in my foot sudden and overwhelming. Went to a sports clinic and was told I had plantar fasciitis and they suggested I take up swimming instead. Shortly I was swimming a mile every day and one day thought "why not 2?" From that day on I swam 2 miles/day and continued for 10 years. After a couple years of that I would precede my swim with 1 1/2 hours in the weight room, putting on a lot of muscle. One day I had to stop my timed 2 mile swim because of unbearable pain in my shoulder.

Eventually I had surgery on that shoulder followed by surgery in that foot (neuromas).

I'm still committed to physical fitness and do what it takes, but I don't run or swim. Maybe I could but not on the level that I used to. I now have a physical therapist who's helping me with my legs/knees, which used to be OK, but now not so much. I think I can surmount the problems, though.
 
Muse said:
I ran for a couple decades and one day had to stop, the pain in my foot sudden and overwhelming. Went to a sports clinic and was told I had plantar fasciitis and they suggested I take up swimming instead. Shortly I was swimming a mile every day and one day thought "why not 2?" From that day on I swam 2 miles/day and continued for 10 years. After a couple years of that I would precede my swim with 1 1/2 hours in the weight room, putting on a lot of muscle. One day I had to stop my timed 2 mile swim because of unbearable pain in my shoulder.

Eventually I had surgery on that shoulder followed by surgery in that foot (neuromas).

I'm still committed to physical fitness and do what it takes, but I don't run or swim. Maybe I could but not on the level that I used to. I now have a physical therapist who's helping me with my legs/knees, which used to be OK, but now not so much. I think I can surmount the problems, though.
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I have stretchy ligaments. It's not officially diagnosed but it runs in the family. They believe it's what caused the arthritis. I find that exercise and weight training helps. I lost 50 lb and 2015 - 2016. My knee suddenly didn't hurt all the time and I can go up and down stairs. I cardio six times a week. I use my treadmill and walk really fast and use the incline intermittently. I use my hex dumbbells every other day. I already got my workout in. Today's my beer and pizza day. Oven is warming up!
 
bigboxes said:
I have stretchy ligaments. It's not officially diagnosed but it runs in the family. They believe it's what caused the arthritis. I find that exercise and weight training helps. I lost 50 lb and 2015 - 2016. My knee suddenly didn't hurt all the time and I can go up and down stairs. I cardio six times a week. I use my treadmill and walk really fast and use the incline intermittently. I use my hex dumbbells every other day. I already got my workout in. Today's my beer and pizza day. Oven is warming up!
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Arthritis is my chief if not only medical complaint. I go up and down stairs just fine recently, have occasionally had knee problems with that. Now, the knee insists I not walk too fast, particularly going downhill. The PT will hopefully resolve that. Did my 1000 foot elevation hike today already. I cardio 7 days a week, well this week I took a couple days off because knee was especially bad and I had stuff I needed to do. I have a Concept2 rowing machine but haven't been using it. Got it during pandemic for cardio on rainy days. Other days I'd street skate (quads) for 10 miles wearing a heart rate monitor.

I don't know what's wrong with my knees, my HMO's pros have suggested this and that but I figure they don't know. I will maybe get an MRI, I have a feeling they could figure out what my problems are if they wanted to.

Pizza today or tomorrow. I have a ball of dough in the fridge. Just have to proof it a couple hours after warming it up a bit in the microwave.
 
Some remarks on my pizza techniques:

I have 3 different diameter aluminum pizza pans, I assume professional. I bought them (probably used, and something like 15+ years ago) from a very large restaurant supply warehouse in downtown Oakland that I have been to many times when looking for additions to my kitchen (I have some pro tools). I haven't used those pans for quite a few years, though. Partly because slicing a pizza on one leaves obvious scoring.

I heard about pizza screens a few years ago and have a couple of 12". I have an extra in case I have a guest. Pizza screens do a good job with the crust, the results are pretty predictable if you have the temperature and cook timing worked out. I really like the results I'm getting.

The problem with slicing was resolved when someone in these forums suggested getting a pizza peel. On occasion I've had a pizza that stuck to the screen. It can be a bit of a struggle to get it unstuck, but I always have. It's unlikely to happen if the underside of the rolled dough has enough flour adhering when placed on the screen. I leave the screen + situated rolled dough above the heating oven where it proofs at an accelerated rate while I gather and prepare the toppings.

I've seen video of a professional working out a dough for a pizza with his hands only but I use a rolling pin, have a really nice one.

While the pizza bakes I have time to completely clean up.

Removing a pizza screen covered with hot pizza from the super hot oven can be tricky. What I do is this: I open the oven a crack with one hand with a strong flashlight in the other hand. If the pizza looks done to me (usually does because I know what I'm doing), I drop the oven door down to horizontal, then grab a typical stainless steel table knife in one hand and a stainless steel pincher (tongs) in the other. I insert the knife into the oven far enough to get at the edge of the pizza screen and lift it enough so I can grab the edge of the screen with the tongs. I pull the tongs out far enough so the screen protrudes from the oven rack and let go. Then I grab the edge of the screen with oven mitt or equivalent, pull it out and deposit the pizza on the peel, slice and serve.
 
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Thus week's pizza finally got to 600. I thought it was dead, but got a few more votes. I still think a 1K it's a good indicator of a successful submission.
 
Kaido said:
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I made some of the pizzas you linked, Costco Kirkland Signature Frozen Pizzas (4 frozen pizzas, 18.25oz each, 1240 calories per pizza), $11.79. I put some stuff on top of the frozen pizzas before inserting in ~450F oven. Will make my 3rd tonight. This is the 2nd I made, May 25:
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