piers morgan special texas edition, you guys gonna watch this?

[DucatiMonster696]

i just gotta go with my rational side here, and think that... harder to get guns, will always equate to less accidents/gun crime...

Harder to get guns for law abiding citizens will only result in higher crime rates and only 2 parties having access to firearms which is government and criminals of which many of those would probably have been law abiding citizens who decided not to abide by a unconstitutional push by gun prohibitionists.

pretty much every hick/hillbilly where i'm from has a gun.. those aren't the kind of people that i would think the law, should allow to have guns...and they make up probably 20 percent of the population... the rest out there are basically suburban families, who dont care about gun laws because they dont see a reason to own a gun (i think i'd fit into this group as well)

Nothing but your opinion here. However gun ownership isn't relegated solely to hicks and hibillies as you would want to imply in a misguide attempt to paint a false picture as to who in general actually legally makes up the bulk of firearm owners in this nation.

and for that group, less guns the better... i see someone concealed or open carrying and all i can think is jesus christ... ego much? i'd feel safer with that group of people, just gone... that's like people who forgot to assimilate into society.. or failed too... and are now scared and alienated, and carrying weapons!!! wtf

Again nothing more then your personal opinion which isn't much of argument and does not bring anything of note to the debate.

 

[klinc]

I hacked into Piers Morgan's mobile yesterday and listened to his messages. Bit of a waste of time really - all they were was:

1) "You're a wise and beautiful woman"
2) "You're a wise and beautiful woman"
3) "You're a wise and beautiful woman"
4) "You're a wise and beautiful woman"

 

[RampantAndroid]

i just gotta go with my rational side here, and think that... harder to get guns, will always equate to less accidents/gun crime...

If this were true, there would be less gun crime in CA than TX, right?

Except...that's not the case. CA has higher gun crime per capita than texas does.

 

[xj0hnx]

no because there's not a demand for guns like there is for pot... i can think of like 20 people in my head that smoke pot... and like 1 who's a gun nutter..

LOLWUT!?!? Dude, you can't even get an AR15 right now because, at least around here, the next 3 or 4 months worth have already been bought. There is an insane demand for firearms, WAY more people buy and own firearms than do drugs.

 

[sourn]

Apparently somebody forgot about prohibition, and if you don't think something like that would happen you're out of you're mind. Though it would probably be much worse.

 

[RampantAndroid]

LOLWUT!?!? Dude, you can't even get an AR15 right now because, at least around here, the next 3 or 4 months worth have already been bought. There is an insane demand for firearms, WAY more people buy and own firearms than do drugs.

Not sure I agree there...how many people own guns (a lot of people - like me - own multiple guns to account for those sales) vs how many do drugs?

 

[CPA]

piers is basically to the left, as bill O'reilly is to the right...

however... this gun control thing is getting crazy.. i know nothing will really come of it.. it's more like a probe to see how ready the american public is for something like that TO HAPPEN... i'd say give it another 50 years.. the elite can sit on their collective asses for another 50 years, and then we can roll out 1 world united, call ourselves earthlings, and get on with the show..

Even thought we are on different ends of the political spectrum, I found myself shaking my head until I got to "i'd say give it another 50 years.. the elite can sit on their collective asses for another 50 years, and then we can roll out 1 world united, call ourselves earthlings, and get on with the show.."

lol, what? the world has never been united and never will be. In fact, why would you want unity, that means we all think the same, we all act the same.

 

[CPA]

i just gotta go with my rational side here, and think that... harder to get guns, will always equate to less accidents/gun crime...

pretty much every hick/hillbilly where i'm from has a gun.. those aren't the kind of people that i would think the law, should allow to have guns...and they make up probably 20 percent of the population... the rest out there are basically suburban families, who dont care about gun laws because they dont see a reason to own a gun (i think i'd fit into this group as well)

and for that group, less guns the better... i see someone concealed or open carrying and all i can think is jesus christ... ego much? i'd feel safer with that group of people, just gone... that's like people who forgot to assimilate into society.. or failed too... and are now scared and alienated, and carrying weapons!!! wtf

So if you're a hick/hillbilly (whatever that means) you shouldn't be allowed to have a gun. And your logic behind that?

Also, if you think suburban families don't own guns, you are quite mistaken.

 

[88keys]

Alex Jones is a charlatan, and Piers is pompous asshole.

 

[xj0hnx]

Not sure I agree there...how many people own guns (a lot of people - like me - own multiple guns to account for those sales) vs how many do drugs?

I actually don't even think it's close. What's the estimate, something like 2.5 million Americans smoke weed, there's about a quarter of a million heroin addicts, probably a few more than that do coke, there's over 300 millions guns in America, and one of the estimates I've seen is about 170 million gun owners. I'm sure we could adjust the parameters to get closer, or further, say eliminate people that have just tried drugs, but who do not actively use, and eliminate people that have not bought a gun, but got it through inheritance. Could close the gap, but I don't think drugs would win anyway you slice it up. Don't get me wrong, I am a fan of drugs, but guns have the distinct advantage here.

 

[jpeyton]

pretty much every hick/hillbilly where i'm from has a gun.. those aren't the kind of people that i would think the law, should allow to have guns

Based on the color of their skin, or the price of their house, or some other vital factor you haven't yet shared with us?

the rest out there are basically suburban families, who dont care about gun laws because they dont see a reason to own a gun (i think i'd fit into this group as well)

That's an interesting, narrow minded, anecdotal observation. You couldn't guess how many doctors, nurses, engineers, business owners, and other well-to-do upper-income people I know own firearms. There are more of us than you think.

and for that group, less guns the better... i see someone concealed or open carrying and all i can think is jesus christ... ego much?

You probably don't see 99 out of 100 people concealed carrying because...it's concealed. When I see an open carry, I don't think much of it, because a holstered firearm is just luggage.

i'd feel safer with that group of people, just gone... that's like people who forgot to assimilate into society.. or failed too... and are now scared and alienated, and carrying weapons!!! wtf

Did I just get trolled or are you really this inept?

 

[Subyman]

Jpeyton, It's interesting that Zane knows twenty people that smoke weed, but only one with a gun. Maybe he's from Northern California? Haha.

Also using his math, 80% of the US are suburban families...

 

[Cerb]

Jpeyton, It's interesting that Zane knows twenty people that smoke weed, but only one with a gun. Maybe he's from Northern California? Haha.

I was thinking the same thing. I don't know anyone that smokes weed, don't know anyone without at least one gun to their name, and about half the people I know have handguns, too. How this middle class gated community has not turned into the Wild West, I just can't fathom. 😛

I often wonder if the people that think most carriers are paranoid and living in constant fear are that way themselves. Otherwise, it just doesn't make much sense how they can all seem to think that of others.

They can't seem to get it through their thick skulls that regular people have carbines, shotguns, and handguns for the same reasons the police do--self-defense--that you are responsible for your own defense, not the police (Castle Rock v. Gonzales being the latest reaffirmation of this I am aware of, and it was not a 5-4!), that police, on average, have a terrible training and execution track record (committed individuals are, on average, far better marksmen), and that neither non-LEO gun owners nor police, except for some fringe idiots, really want to need to even draw their weapon against another person, much less need to fire it.

 

[zanejohnson]

i guess i live in a different world or something...


i honestly can think of one person who has guns, and he's a nutter...always reading infowars and crap, shit has alot of people brainwashed.. we live in the 21st century, not the freakin wild west.. i see it as a bunch of social outcasts who are scared of there fellow humans... who needs a freakin gun!!! besides hunters of course.. but not in public.. there should be gun free zones in citys, like at schools..

 

[Subyman]

I've had a shotgun and a small rifle since I was "of age." I haven't shot them in years, but they are there. It is nice peace of mind. Most of the people I know also have guns, they just don't flaunt them around. Normal people own firearms, you just wouldn't know it because they aren't insane. I honestly do not know anyone that reads those weird gun magazines. Preppers do kind of scare me haha.

 

[Matt1970]

i guess i live in a different world or something...


i honestly can think of one person who has guns, and he's a nutter...always reading infowars and crap, shit has alot of people brainwashed.. we live in the 21st century, not the freakin wild west.. i see it as a bunch of social outcasts who are scared of there fellow humans... who needs a freakin gun!!! besides hunters of course.. but not in public.. there should be gun free zones in citys, like at schools..

LOL, ya you do. I am a musician and I know still know more people who own guns than smoke pot.

 

[soundforbjt]

LOL, ya you do. I am a musician and I know still know more people who own guns than smoke pot.

Lemme guess...country player?

 

[sm625]

I'll only watch it if alex comes back on to tear that twit another new one. I just love it when he goes on a mainstream tv show and all the dumbed down passive nazi apoligists are like "omg he sounds like such a nut. Look at him he actually gets mad that they put mining waste products into the drinking water. OMG he is a conspiracy theorist... he thinks mercury is bad for you! That alex guy is just so far from the mainstream. He sounds like such a nut. It doesnt matter if he cites facts because I dont care about facts. I wants someone who will smile and talk all softly and passively while they stab me in the frickin back and bang me up the butt!"

 

[Matt1970]

Lemme guess...country player?

Oh hell no.

 

[xj0hnx]

i guess i live in a different world or something...


i honestly can think of one person who has guns, and he's a nutter...always reading infowars and crap, shit has alot of people brainwashed.. we live in the 21st century, not the freakin wild west.. i see it as a bunch of social outcasts who are scared of there fellow humans... who needs a freakin gun!!! besides hunters of course.. but not in public.. there should be gun free zones in citys, like at schools..

Yea, that's it, why didn't anyone think to turn inner cities into Gun Free Zones, that would solve all the gang banger gun violence.

It's just a fact that criminals have guns, and are obviously not deterred by gun laws, so our choices are ban/limit guns from law-abiding hands, and ensure they are perfect victims, or stop banning/limiting guns from law-abiding hands, and give them a chance to defend themselves if they want to, and the need arrives.

 

[chucky2]

i guess i live in a different world or something...


i honestly can think of one person who has guns, and he's a nutter...always reading infowars and crap, shit has alot of people brainwashed.. we live in the 21st century, not the freakin wild west.. i see it as a bunch of social outcasts who are scared of there fellow humans... who needs a freakin gun!!! besides hunters of course.. but not in public.. there should be gun free zones in citys, like at schools..

Too late! Chicago already beat you to this idea. I hear it's really working out well for them... :whiste:

 

[Ausm]

Shouldn't he be judging talent shows?

 

[RampantAndroid]

I actually don't even think it's close. What's the estimate, something like 2.5 million Americans smoke weed, there's about a quarter of a million heroin addicts, probably a few more than that do coke, there's over 300 millions guns in America, and one of the estimates I've seen is about 170 million gun owners. I'm sure we could adjust the parameters to get closer, or further, say eliminate people that have just tried drugs, but who do not actively use, and eliminate people that have not bought a gun, but got it through inheritance. Could close the gap, but I don't think drugs would win anyway you slice it up. Don't get me wrong, I am a fan of drugs, but guns have the distinct advantage here.

I'm surprised so few do drugs. The weed numbers might change since WA made weed legal now 😉

Shouldn't he be judging talent shows?

He shouldn't be on TV, but if we must suffer him on TV, yes. He should stick to talent shows. Like who is the biggest asshole, since that's something he's an expert on.

 

[soundforbjt]

I actually don't even think it's close. What's the estimate, something like 2.5 million Americans smoke weed, there's about a quarter of a million heroin addicts, probably a few more than that do coke, there's over 300 millions guns in America, and one of the estimates I've seen is about 170 million gun owners. I'm sure we could adjust the parameters to get closer, or further, say eliminate people that have just tried drugs, but who do not actively use, and eliminate people that have not bought a gun, but got it through inheritance. Could close the gap, but I don't think drugs would win anyway you slice it up. Don't get me wrong, I am a fan of drugs, but guns have the distinct advantage here.

An estimated 20.4 million people in the United States used some kind of illicit drug in the past 30 days, according to the latest government statistics. About 8.3 percent of all persons age 12 and over are involved in use of illegal drugs or the nonmedical use of prescription drugs.

http://alcoholism.about.com/od/drugs/a/nsduh_drugs.htm

The number of households owning guns has declined from almost 50% in 1973 to just over 32% in 2010, according to a 2011 study produced by The University of Chicago's National Opinion Research Center.

 

[Cerb]

I'm surprised so few do drugs. The weed numbers might change since WA made weed legal now 😉

Around me, it has been the recession. People I know that used to smoke it don't, not because they fear the police catching them, but they feared their managers finding out and firing them, and then not having a job, nor unemployment, for some indefinite period.