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pictures of the riots going on in Greece. . .

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Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: CorCentral
Originally posted by: foghorn67
Pictures I thought were compelling...
16) Students offering flowers to the riot police.
25) Mannequins burning. Wow. Very Hollywood like.
28)Crowd. Very good photograph. The selective DoF works quite well to display the "immense" feeling of all of this.


You forgot one.

14) 5 of the 10 shields held by the police, are upside down 😉

That's only part true. Riot shields have a strap and a handle. Your arm goes through the strap and you grab the handle. If someone holds their baton in the left or right hand, you simply flip the shield upside down and the strap and handle is in the right spot.

You can also unscrew the strap and handle and switch them manually keeping the police logo "correct". For whatever reason, the police just did it the easy way.


I see.......... I still love Gyros though!

 
Originally posted by: Baked
On the night of Saturday, December 6th, two Special Guards of the Greek police clashed with a small group of young men. The exact details of what took place are still unclear, but it is known that one of the Guards fired three shots, and one of those bullets caused the death of 15-year-old Alexander Grigoropoulos - whether the injury was made by an accidental ricochet or deliberate shot remains to be determined. The two Guards are now in jail awaiting trial, the shooter charged with homicide. This incident sparked an immediate and widespread response in the form of angry demonstrations and riots in many Greek cities that have continued at varying levels to this day - though dimming in intensity recently. Alexander's death appears to have been a catalyst, unleashing widespread Greek anger towards many issues - police mistreatment of protesters, unwelcome education reforms, economic stagnation, government corruption and more.

So a bunch of dbags were out causing trouble. Warning shots were fired by police and one of the bullets ricochet and killed one of the dbags, which gave even more dbags an excuse to start a massive riot. Why didn't they just call in the nation guard, declare martial law, and shoot anybody who's out in the street?

It's greece? I'd hope that cops would start cutting them down with beanbags if this ever happened here.
 
Originally posted by: TallBill
Wow, time for the police to up the level of force. Throwing a molotov cocktail at a cop is grounds to shoot to kill. I don't care if it causes more problems. You can't just set men on fire, regardless of who they are.

Ding ding ding. Do cops in greece even have guns?
 
Originally posted by: Bignate603
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: vi edit
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: vi edit
Riots. The apex of human mob mentality and chaos.

When the dust settles all you've accomplished is a ton of needless vandalism to your cities, merchants, and neighborhoods.

Funny, democracy was born from riots.

Riots are different from revolutions.

They are only different from someones perspectives. I am sure the French and English elite looked down on the revolutionaries as rioters.

The French revolution was a blood bath. The American revolution was an order of magnitude different. I'm not saying that in a pro-American way, I'm saying that in an anti-'kill anything that could possibly be against us without regard for the innocent' sort of way. The people that got in charge of France after the revolution were significantly worse than the people they replaced. It took quite a while before they were deposed.

I agree, but without that bloodbath history would have been different.

I'm not saying all riots are right, I'm saying people need to look beyond the surface. Oh a boy was killed so they rioted is a simplistic way of looking at this.
 
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: vi edit
Riots. The apex of human mob mentality and chaos.

When the dust settles all you've accomplished is a ton of needless vandalism to your cities, merchants, and neighborhoods.

Funny, democracy was born from riots.

Really? It was actually born from Athenian landholders getting bored from Solon's mediocre leadership, as well as middle classmen believing they needed more of a say in the affairs of state because of their direct involvement in phalanx warfare.

In regards to these riots, it's just the brooding left wing anarchists running amok, needing something to justify their pathetic existence.
 
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: vi edit
Riots. The apex of human mob mentality and chaos.

When the dust settles all you've accomplished is a ton of needless vandalism to your cities, merchants, and neighborhoods.

Funny, democracy was born from riots.

So you think it's alright that my brother and his wife's livelyhood was practically ruined from this riot then?

They owned a boutique in central Athens and now it lays for all intents and purposes in ruins, severely vandalized, burned, pillaged, and much merchandise stolen.

Tell me how that serves the "purpose" of delivering the message that this "group" wanted to carry out?

 
Originally posted by: multiband8303
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: vi edit
Riots. The apex of human mob mentality and chaos.

When the dust settles all you've accomplished is a ton of needless vandalism to your cities, merchants, and neighborhoods.

Funny, democracy was born from riots.

So you think it's alright that my brother and his wife's livelyhood was practically ruined from this riot then?

They owned a boutique in central Athens and now it lays for all intents and purposes in ruins, severely vandalized, burned, pillaged, and much merchandise stolen.

Tell me how that serves the "purpose" of delivering the message that this "group" wanted to carry out?

It doesn't serve a purpose. I don't believe in riots.
 
Originally posted by: multiband8303
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: vi edit
Riots. The apex of human mob mentality and chaos.

When the dust settles all you've accomplished is a ton of needless vandalism to your cities, merchants, and neighborhoods.

Funny, democracy was born from riots.

So you think it's alright that my brother and his wife's livelyhood was practically ruined from this riot then?

They owned a boutique in central Athens and now it lays for all intents and purposes in ruins, severely vandalized, burned, pillaged, and much merchandise stolen.

Tell me how that serves the "purpose" of delivering the message that this "group" wanted to carry out?

Tell them to apply for reimbursement from the Greek government which has a good track record of following through on that. It's inconvenient yes, but than that is the price for us being able to take advantage of our ability to protect, be it protesting police brutality, or a shitty economy which the government is more or less responsible for.
 
holy crap, people actually use Moltov Cocktails? I thought that was just something made up for movies and video games.
 
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: multiband8303
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: vi edit
Riots. The apex of human mob mentality and chaos.

When the dust settles all you've accomplished is a ton of needless vandalism to your cities, merchants, and neighborhoods.

Funny, democracy was born from riots.

So you think it's alright that my brother and his wife's livelyhood was practically ruined from this riot then?

They owned a boutique in central Athens and now it lays for all intents and purposes in ruins, severely vandalized, burned, pillaged, and much merchandise stolen.

Tell me how that serves the "purpose" of delivering the message that this "group" wanted to carry out?

Tell them to apply for reimbursement from the Greek government which has a good track record of following through on that. It's inconvenient yes, but than that is the price for us being able to take advantage of our ability to protect, be it protesting police brutality, or a shitty economy which the government is more or less responsible for.

From what they told me when I asked for Insurance, everyone effected by this riot better "wait patiently and get in line"

Which means they will get paid back, but in the mean time they are ruined.
 
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: BigToque
My cousin was in the middle of these protests. He called the other day to let us know he wasn't the kid that was killed.

Does he have the same name?

Same name is the kid that was killed? Nope, but afaik, he called before they released the name of the boy.
 
Originally posted by: destrekor
wtf is wrong with people to cause that much damage over such a trivial issue? Yes, a policeman killed someone, likely by accident by the possibility exists that it was a completely deliberate murder.

But does that justify setting numerous people on fire and destroying cars and shops of people not involved and possibly ruining the livelihoods of those shop owners?
The mob mentality - while useful at times, though rarely - is a terrible human trait that is almost never justifiable.

This wasn't about the teen, much like WWI wasn't about Archduke Ferdinand.

Originally posted by: vi edit
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: vi edit
Riots. The apex of human mob mentality and chaos.

When the dust settles all you've accomplished is a ton of needless vandalism to your cities, merchants, and neighborhoods.

Funny, democracy was born from riots.

Riots are different from revolutions.

They start exactly the same way.

 
Originally posted by: RichardE
Tell them to apply for reimbursement from the Greek government which has a good track record of following through on that. It's inconvenient yes, but than that is the price for us being able to take advantage of our ability to protect, be it protesting police brutality, or a shitty economy which the government is more or less responsible for.

That's a load of cock and bull shit.


Here's what a boils down to: They have no right to be rioting, they're a bunch of dissatisfied pricks trying to find an excuse to burn off steam garnered because they have nothing else useful to be doing.


In all other cases, the revolutions of 1776 and even that of 1790 were well intentioned.
 
Originally posted by: TehMac
Originally posted by: RichardE
Tell them to apply for reimbursement from the Greek government which has a good track record of following through on that. It's inconvenient yes, but than that is the price for us being able to take advantage of our ability to protect, be it protesting police brutality, or a shitty economy which the government is more or less responsible for.

That's a load of cock and bull shit.


Here's what a boils down to: They have no right to be rioting, they're a bunch of dissatisfied pricks trying to find an excuse to burn off steam garnered because they have nothing else useful to be doing.


In all other cases, the revolutions of 1776 and even that of 1790 were well intentioned.

You still spreading your ignorant shit?

Oh noes the left omg why can't the be peace lovers like zee right! :roll:

They can't do anything usefull since they can't find jobs dipshit. It's ok, you can crawl back into your little hole and pretend the world is a perfect land of opportunity for all 7 billion people and god only knows why anyone would ever be disastified with the world, ever, when you can become anything you want!

:roll:



And completely offtopic, well intentioned to who? The people running the countries? The people in other countries who were enjoying a nice normal middle class existence that the revolutions threatened? Your own ignorance is outstanding especially considering the fact you are so high on your own little soapbox I doubt you can see the ground anymore.
 
The ironing will be so sweet when this country falls into the shitter in the next presidential term and RichardE gets his house burned down then raped by rioters all in the name of venting their disapproval of the government.
 
Originally posted by: Baked
The ironing will be so sweet when this country falls into the shitter in the next presidential term and RichardE gets his house burned down then raped by rioters all in the name of venting their disapproval of the government.

It will be even better when you begin to lose any semblance of personal freedom because people were too afraid to protest due to the idea that "protesting and rioting never accomplishes anything"


Oh nvm lulz that doesn't happen nowadays.
 
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