DivideBYZero
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how come? one ONE HUNDRED MORE hp and it's still slower than the Mustang GT?
the Mustang weights only 300 lbs less.... that's just ten percent from GTO's 3700.
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Originally posted by: BD2003
It *was* a fart can on a Dodge Neon. Get it straight.
Oh yeah, you're right. LOL
Gunslinger08
Lifer
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They are very boring looking cars. My 06 Mustang GT is close in performance, but 10 times better looking.
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It's subjective. I personally don't like a retro angular look. That angular look causes significant drag. The GTOs design has performance in mind. I also like the sleeper look of a GTO. The GTO is a true performance car appealing mainly to gearheads. The car was built for people like me in mind.
Ford sold over 134,000 Mustangs in 2005 alone. You see them all over the road everywhere. The GTO has a uniqueness that I'm proud to have.
MasterAndCommander
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- Feb 1, 2004
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There's something to be said for the 'sleeper' look...especially with the cops
I hate how they ride my ass all the time, waiting for me to slip up :|. Heck, there were even 2 cops by my car when I went to pick it up at the dealership for the first time. The retro look isn't for everyone - it was for me 'cause I wanted a 60's fastback for a long time - this was a good compromise. I was never a fan of the Fox body or aero look SN-95's Mustangs because they just didn't look like Mustangs to me. The GTO was 2nd on my list when I was car shopping a couple of years ago - I actually liked it's clean lines. The icing on the cake was that I had that a friend that worked at Ford and hooked me up. Had I had a friend that worked for GM, things might have been different...well maybe I would have gunned for the C6 'vette. You'll have even more uniqueness since production stops this year. Enjoy your ride! I'd love to try one.
I hate how they ride my ass all the time, waiting for me to slip up :|. Heck, there were even 2 cops by my car when I went to pick it up at the dealership for the first time. The retro look isn't for everyone - it was for me 'cause I wanted a 60's fastback for a long time - this was a good compromise. I was never a fan of the Fox body or aero look SN-95's Mustangs because they just didn't look like Mustangs to me. The GTO was 2nd on my list when I was car shopping a couple of years ago - I actually liked it's clean lines. The icing on the cake was that I had that a friend that worked at Ford and hooked me up. Had I had a friend that worked for GM, things might have been different...well maybe I would have gunned for the C6 'vette
. You'll have even more uniqueness since production stops this year. Enjoy your ride! I'd love to try one.
Zenmervolt
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- Oct 22, 2000
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Gearing and grip. IRS is not well suited to the drag strip. When the car squats, you get camber changes, which reduces grip during straight-line acceleration. The camber changes tend to help when cornering, but they hurt during a drag strip run. Also, location and day. It all just depends. As I said, the difference isn't big enough to guarantee either car a win. On a rolling start, the GTO would almost certainly win, but in a real drag race, it's a toss-up.
ZV
Zenmervolt
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I agree with most of what you said, but the bolded parts are iffy. The sheer number of performance parts available for the Mustang would tend to go against your insinuation that the Mustang is not a car for gearheads. As far as being proud of the "uniqueness" of the GTO, it's fine to like the car because fewer of them have been sold, but unless you were part of the car's production or design, there's nothing for you to be personally proud of.
ZV
its not like pontiac desgined it themselves is it?
its just a aussie holden monaro VXR with a pontiac badge
Zenmervolt
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I'll concede that to an extent. Though buying a Mustang for "image" is not really any different at all from you being "proud" of the GTO.
And even though the V6 Mustang tends to be maligned, it still offers a lot of car for the $20,000 (MSRP).
ZV
Anubis
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Nebor
Lifer
- Jun 24, 2003
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Whoever said their Mustang GT keeps up with a Porsche Boxster S in corners is dreaming. Must have been a Boxster driver that was afraid to drive. They also back 280hp, and are lighter than a Mustang GT, getting to 60mph in 5.2 seconds. That means they should be neck and neck on the straights.
On an overall road course though, the Boxster S will own.
On an overall road course though, the Boxster S will own.
Zenmervolt
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*shrugs* Come out to Seattle and run on the next Pelican Parts drive and ask the Boxster driver himself.
I didn't say it theoretically would keep up, I said it did keep up. In the rain, over mountain passes, it kept up. I offered the information simply as an anecdote to illustrate that, contrary to popular belief, the Mustang posts rather exemplary handling. On a track, yes, a Boxster S will be faster, but the idea that Mustang has no cornerting ability is simply out-dated.
I'm significantly faster in my 951, however, than I am in the Mustang.
Regarding Adam's chart:
1) It was paid for by Pontiac.
2) It uses "corrected" numbers, which invalidates the test.
3) Industry standard is a 700 foot slalom, why the test used 600 foot is unknown.
ZV
Nebor
Lifer
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I wouldn't say the Mustang's handling is exmplary. It's not bad. But there are a lot of things that are better.
I see it as a non-issue, the Mustang is an American muscle car, it should barely even need a steering wheel. It's purpose lies in a straight line ahead of it.
I see it as a non-issue, the Mustang is an American muscle car, it should barely even need a steering wheel. It's purpose lies in a straight line ahead of it.
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