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Physx - rate the importance if you care or not

  • Physx - what's that?

  • Physx - no thanks! (Unimpressed)

  • Physx - neutral

  • Physx - nice extra if price / performance lines up.

  • Physx - factors in the decision

  • Physx - must have! (Diehard fan)


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Rvenger

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The developers know it also hurts them because some people (Customers that are not as tech savvy) think they can't play the game unless they have an Nvidia graphics card.

That is one of the reasons why PhysX won't be a complete success and why many developers are not on board and why Nvidia has a limited selection of PhysX titles.
 

96Firebird

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GPU PhysX will be in every game nVidia writes the code and pays the dev to have it. How many games does it end up in that aren't nVidia sponsored?

How much does Nvidia pay to get PhysX in games?

As for the second question, perhaps, just MAYBE, sponsorship is decided after the decision to put PhysX in the game is...

It seems you like to look at everything from a certain angle. Try looking at it from a different perspective.
 

3DVagabond

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How much does Nvidia pay to get PhysX in games?

As for the second question, perhaps, just MAYBE, sponsorship is decided after the decision to put PhysX in the game is...

It seems you like to look at everything from a certain angle. Try looking at it from a different perspective.

If you want to believe that, fine.
 

Keysplayr

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Yeah it took you long enough because of all the assumptions you made of things that I had not said and assumed I was thinking. The sky is the limit when people read what they want and not what was said.

I believe it was because you MADE it sound like you were saying that PhysX was unusable because it tanks fps into unplayable realms.

Why do you think you were challenged so much in this thread?
What you seem to IMPLY seems to speak louder than what you're actually saying. Next time you are wondering where all these questions are coming from, maybe think about your wording and how it can be perceived by others.
 

tviceman

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Yeah it took you long enough because of all the assumptions you made of things that I had not said and assumed I was thinking. The sky is the limit when people read what they want and not what was said.

LOL I was not agreeing with you. Your right the sky is the limit and that one hit the limit as it flew over your head.
 

CakeMonster

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The poll makes no sense and the alternatives just muddy the waters. No useful info in the results.
 

Final8ty

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I believe it was because you MADE it sound like you were saying that PhysX was unusable because it tanks fps into unplayable realms.

Why do you think you were challenged so much in this thread?
What you seem to IMPLY seems to speak louder than what you're actually saying. Next time you are wondering where all these questions are coming from, maybe think about your wording and how it can be perceived by others.
What questioned asked, all what was practicaly said was if you don't like it turn it off, AA and other features also give fps hit so I should shut up, they are not questions they are comments in defense of the fps hit of Physx.
LOL I was not agreeing with you. Your right the sky is the limit and that one hit the limit as it flew over your head.

I know you was not agreeing with me but instead of telling me what you think I thought, you could of asked me on the points you made in that post.
Instead you made blanket assumptions on many different points because I gave a specific opinions of Physx so you and others went ahead assumed a whole host of things and even those things was not asked as questions of what I think, I was told what I thought which you and others got completely wrong because you did not ask, you assumed.
 
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amenx

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Still I wonder how accurate the poll is. Seeing how many people get worked up in AMD vs Nvidia arguments, I would suspect that personal bias (both pro and con) may figure in respondents votes.
 

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I just got a new video card and PhysX is not a feature that I look forward. I was deciding between a 760 and a 7950 but ended getting a 7970 GHz because I got it at a 760/7950 price. I am no fanboy of Nvidia or ATI. I always get what I consider the best bang for the buck. This time (just like the last time I got a card) It was ATI. I just finished Metro Last Light and I do not feel I missed anything by not having PhysX. I am not against it. But I usually turn off any extra settings that for me make no visual difference. I disable AA and such since for me they do not make any difference visually and just take away FPS. This is me of course since I know some people that see the difference but now that I play at 2560*1440 I see less need for it in my case. I have seen PhysX in action and I think it is ok but once I am playing I really do not pay attention to it (a friend has a 680) So if I am watching him play I notice it but if I am playing I do not really pay attention. I voted neutral by the way
 

Final8ty

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So because you checkbox it off means it sucks and that the features shouldn't be offered or is there just maybe a slight chance it's not for you but it's good to see something other than straight up ports with no added graphical features? Call it an upgrade all you want, but there is a very minimal difference between these latest high end DX11 games sporting DX11 features and their console equivalents once resolution and texture size has been stripped from the equation.

On your line of thinking, I think performance killing versions of ultra-quality AO are ridiculous, unnoticeable, and not needed but I also realize this is just my opinion and I have never for a second said that it's a waste of time for developers to implement these abilities and/or explore other ways to improve fidelity.

And now that im not at work posting on my mobile lets break those comments down.

1)So because you checkbox it off means it sucks and that the features shouldn't be offered or is there just maybe a slight chance it's not for you 2)but it's good to see something other than straight up ports with no added graphical features? 3)Call it an upgrade all you want, but there is a very minimal difference between these latest high end DX11 games sporting DX11 features and their console equivalents once resolution and texture size has been stripped from the equation.

4)On your line of thinking, I think performance killing versions of ultra-quality AO are ridiculous, unnoticeable, and not needed but I also realize this is just my opinion and [5]I have never for a second said that it's a waste of time for developers to implement these abilities and/or explore other ways to improve fidelity.

1) No i never said a feature that i dont like should never be offered and i have said many times others may like it. So your are wrong there.

2) Yes i agree that its better to see something on there other than straight up ports with no added graphical features. That was actually one question because of the question mark at the end that i did not notice on my mobile that got drowned out.

3)Yes there is minimal difference once resolution and texture size, better frame rate, 3D, Multiscreen, more choice of input devices, head tracking ect... has been stripped from the equation but those equations are a big reason why some people choose PC gaming, look at when Crysys came out it was not the Physics that set it apart from consoles and other games, there are many ways to set PC games apart from consoles and even with Physx some people still say crap console port because its not a integral part of the game.


4) No, on my line of thinking its up to the user what settings they want to use regardless if its noticeable/unnoticeable and frame killing.
Giving an opinion on settings and features does not mean should not be available.

5)I have never for a second said that it's a waste of time for developers to implement these abilities and/or explore other ways to improve fidelity either, i just give my opinions of the results.

There is far to much pre canned thinking that if someone saying something negative then its assumed they are saying it should not be offered or exist and then reply to them based on that can only lead to problems.
 
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Keysplayr

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Still I wonder how accurate the poll is. Seeing how many people get worked up in AMD vs Nvidia arguments, I would suspect that personal bias (both pro and con) may figure in respondents votes.

Change the thread title to AA instead of PhysX and realize just how ridiculous it is to say you would rather not have a feature instead of having it and choosing whether or not to use it. Oh yeah, it gets downright funny.
Make no mistake, everybody actually wants PhysX. Admitting it is entirely another fairy tale.
 
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Final8ty

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Did. Made it worse.

Well i assumed the parts of what you said with in that comment was referring to me seeing as they were mostly in reply to me in various comments, so who are you referring to? Oh right the poll results, my bad. ;)
 
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wand3r3r

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Change the thread title to AA instead of PhysX and realize just how ridiculous it is to say you would rather not have a feature instead of having it and choosing whether or not to use it. Oh yeah, it gets downright funny.
Make no mistake, everybody actually wants PhysX. Admitting it is entirely another fairy tale.

Strong words considering the results. Speaking of fairy tales. ;)
 

Final8ty

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Strong words considering the results. Speaking of fairy tales. ;)

While at work last night i asked a friend what he thinks about Physx and he said whats that, i was shocked seeing as he is more PC savvy than my other friends and can build a rig without my help now and is a heavy gamer.

I said BL2 that we have sunk many hours into, i said what setting do you have Physx on he says he has not touched the settings in that game he just plays it.

Another friend who is a NV user and does know about Physx thought that BF3 used Physx and im sure i read in this thread something similar.
 
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Jimzz

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Change the thread title to AA instead of PhysX and realize just how ridiculous it is to say you would rather not have a feature instead of having it and choosing whether or not to use it. Oh yeah, it gets downright funny.
Make no mistake, everybody actually wants PhysX. Admitting it is entirely another fairy tale.



Hahahahaa... I had a Nvida card before and went to a 7870. PhysX was not even on my radar when looking for a card.

I remember turning Physx on in a couple games and went "Oh thats what that is..." and then went back to playing the game as normal.
 

Rvenger

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everybody actually wants PhysX. Admitting it is entirely another fairy tale.


I turned mine off on my Titan and 780. Why? Hawken was dipping to 20fps in heavy battles. All the debris flying around became a distraction too. PhysX just looks like an afterthought because you can tell it's an overlay on the current graphics.
 

Final8ty

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In my opinion GPU PhysX is being used as effects extender, its raises the effects limit in games that use it, there are some people who will like some of those extend effects and some who dont like some of those extend effects and some who could not care less and some who think some of the effects are not worth the fps hit and that can apply to all other effects available in games as well.
 
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AtenRa

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Im all for game Physics but i voted no thx for PhysX. I like more physics to be implemented in to games but not proprietary like NVs PhysX. Now new with consoles having the GPU performance for more Physics, im hopping we will see more game physics in next gen games.