Phillies no hitter... Fox calls it a perfect game no hitter. Was it a perfect game?

[brxndxn]

Some dude on the Phillies pitched a no hitter...

Fox news called it a perfect game, but it sounded like the anchor was just ignorant as to what a perfect game was.. So.. was it a perfect game? If so, wow...

 

[zippy]

No, he walked 3 - it was a no-hitter.

 

[PoPPeR]

I'm glad Millwood is doing great for the Phillies... but the trade has totally revolutinized the Braves team. I think they're going to go all the way this year with the talent that they picked up from that trade!

Go Braves...

 

[HappyPuppy]

Perfect game = 27 up and 27 down.

 

[m2kewl]

Originally posted by: brxndxn
Fox news called it a perfect game, but it sounded like the anchor was just ignorant as to what a perfect game was.. So.. was it a perfect game? If so, wow...

i saw that anouncement on fox - a woman who covers politics usuallys knows nothing about baseball, so take it with a grain of salt, watch espn

 

[Hector13]

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
Perfect game = 27 up and 27 down.

ack, wasn't this covered in a thread all by itself? I think you can still face only 27 batters and not have a perfect game (ie, a walk and double play or an error and guy thrown out trying to go for two). I guess it depends on what you mean by "27 down"....

 

[Angrymarshmello]

Originally posted by: Hector13

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
Perfect game = 27 up and 27 down.

ack, wasn't this covered in a thread all by itself? I think you can still face only 27 batters and not have a perfect game (ie, a walk and double play or an error and guy thrown out trying to go for two). I guess it depends on what you mean by "27 down"....

27 down means 27 straight outs, not 27 outs total.

 

[Hector13]

Originally posted by: Angrymarshmello

27 down means 27 straight outs, not 27 outs total.

the outs could still be straight (ie, consecutive), but it wouldn't be a perfect game.

 

[anxi80]

yeah. but i see what hector is saying and it is possible. pitcher could ruin his perfect game by walking somebody, but say on the next batter, he picks him off at 1st base. he can face 27 batters total, and still not have that perfect game. just a no-hitter, since he let that man on base.

 

[ElFenix]

only the 7th no-hitter in philies history

 

[Angrymarshmello]

Originally posted by: anxi80
yeah. but i see what hector is saying and it is possible. pitcher could ruin his perfect game by walking somebody, but say on the next batter, he picks him off at 1st base. he can face 27 batters total, and still not have that perfect game. just a no-hitter, since he let that man on base.

Alright, I can see why Hector asked in the first place - I guess it's just a difference in definitions. I don't consider putting a guy on base an out, even if you do pick him off. Yes he'd be out but it wouldn't be 27 straight outs in my view

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: m2kewl

Originally posted by: brxndxn
Fox news called it a perfect game, but it sounded like the anchor was just ignorant as to what a perfect game was.. So.. was it a perfect game? If so, wow...

i saw that anouncement on fox - a woman who covers politics usuallys knows nothing about baseball, so take it with a grain of salt, watch espn

She was just sensationalizing the story like Fox does with all their stories.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Hector13

Originally posted by: Angrymarshmello

27 down means 27 straight outs, not 27 outs total.

the outs could still be straight (ie, consecutive), but it wouldn't be a perfect game.

Contradiction much?

"27 up, 27 down."

Meaning "27 batters step up to the plate (one at a time) and 27 batters step down after getting 0wn3d"

If there's a walk, error, hit, or anything but an out, it's not a "consecutive" out, now is it?

- M4H

 

[KMHPaladin]

If by "perfect game" you mean "Phillies game worth watching," then yes, it was . I can't wait to get home though, the Phillies are actually looking decent this year.

 

[AU Tiger]

Yes, I am soooo happy that the Braves traded him for some guy that's not even playing for the Braves. Congrats to Millwood. I just wish AOL/Time Warner didn't put salary limits on the Braves or else he would still be there.

 

[prodigy]

Congrats to Millwood, he no hit the best team in the NL.

 

[deftron]

quick question:

Would striking someone out, but the catcher drops the ball on the third strike,
allowing the batter to run to first... but he is still thrown out
keep the pitcher from having a perfect game?

How is that scored anyways?

 

[Zebo]

Blah M4H beat me to it.

 

[m2kewl]

Originally posted by: deftron
quick question: Would striking someone out, but the catcher drops the ball on the third strike, allowing the batter to run to first... but he is still thrown out keep the pitcher from having a perfect game? How is that scored anyways?

that's still a perfect game. perfect game = no runner ever reaches first base due to errors, hits, etc.

in your scenerio, it's a strike out, throw out (pretty sure)

 

[anxi80]

Originally posted by: m2kewl

Originally posted by: deftron
quick question: Would striking someone out, but the catcher drops the ball on the third strike, allowing the batter to run to first... but he is still thrown out keep the pitcher from having a perfect game? How is that scored anyways?

that's still a perfect game. perfect game = no runner ever reaches first base due to errors, hits, etc.

in your scenerio, it's a strike out, throw out (pretty sure)

yep, your correct, it is a strike out.

 

[Hector13]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Meaning "27 batters step up to the plate (one at a time) and 27 batters step down after getting 0wn3d"

If there's a walk, error, hit, or anything but an out, it's not a "consecutive" out, now is it?

- M4H

how is that not consecutive? I would consider 27 consecutive outs to mean that each of the 27 players was out before the next player batted. Sounds like a pretty fair definition of consecutive to me.

 

[deftron]

Originally posted by: Hector13

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Meaning "27 batters step up to the plate (one at a time) and 27 batters step down after getting 0wn3d"

If there's a walk, error, hit, or anything but an out, it's not a "consecutive" out, now is it?

- M4H

how is that not consecutive? I would consider 27 consecutive outs to mean that each of the 27 players was out before the next player batted. Sounds like a pretty fair definition of consecutive to me.

If a batter hits a deep ball and goes for a double, and is thrown out at second base.. no perfect game
There could still be 27 consecutive outs.

The best definition of a perfect game would be "no one reaches first base"

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: PoPPeR
I'm glad Millwood is doing great for the Phillies... but the trade has totally revolutinized the Braves team. I think they're going to go all the way this year with the talent that they picked up from that trade!

Go Braves...

You know of course that it was a Salary dump, not a trade.

there were many scenarios that would have been better. but HEY, the braves are playing well again at least.

 

[PoPPeR]

yeah I realize that, but I'm still sort of in shock over it. They said they wouldn't get anything for him if they let him walk... how about a year's worth of great pitching? They don't even have room for Estrada. Now, if Estrada turns into the next Yogi Berra, then I'll go eat a piece of paper with my words on it.

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: PoPPeR
yeah I realize that, but I'm still sort of in shock over it. They said they wouldn't get anything for him if they let him walk... how about a year's worth of great pitching? They don't even have room for Estrada. Now, if Estrada turns into the next Yogi Berra, then I'll go eat a piece of paper with my words on it.

again, the key words were, salary dump. it was really a choice of keep maddux or keep millwood. if it was up to me, i'd a kept millwood.