Phillies Fan Tazered After Running Onto Field

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thegimp03

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Hahaha, that fat ass cop should eat less donuts. Then maybe he could have caught a 17 year old kid. How embarrassing.
 
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Suspicious-Teach8788

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darkxshade said:
The taser vs tackle debate is pretty much pointless, both has its pros and cons. The argument was whether the use of the taser was abuse of power by the cop and it isn't IMO... it was certainly too much but far from total abuse. It's easy to sit behind the computer and have all the time you need to dissect the video frame by frame but in the heat of the moment, there's only action and reaction and when you have chased the guy for what may have felt like minutes even though seconds go by, you might think enough is enough sooner than those who are watching. And in the end, the kid was being stupid and completely noncompliant until he was taken down. This is not a case of a guy who just stands still with disobedience and tasered. The guy was actually running from the cop... can't say his decision was abuse.
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But honestly tackling is the same strategy that has been used from the beginning of time. Once we had bow an arrows, it was the equivalent of a gun. Do you shoot to main/kill or do you use nonlethal force and take them down, i.e. tackle. Now there seems to be an "Easy button," the taze button.

I'm not completely against tasers. This is a so-so situation for me, but in stupid situations like the UCLA incident, I honestly think a tackle/grab is more than enough to take care of it. Or that grandma video being tased...

I think in this situation the kid was evading capture. You could play ring around the rosie and if he's some track star he could go on for a while before a mob descends on him. Why waste time? Tase him. If he's being uncooperative and drunk in the stands and won't budge with 3-4 officers telling him to calm down, should he be tased? Probably not if he's not able to run around in circles and evade capture. Just take him away. This situation is more warranted, and maybe they'd catch him in the end, but why waste 3 minutes of running around. Idiots like these aren't here to provide the audience with lulz entertainment. It's not what I paid for. Granted I realize that once the kid is tased, you're going to get a crowd to make sure he's physically ok and that he can be escorted off the field.
 
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QueBert

QueBert

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JHoNNy1OoO said:
Just saw this on Sportscenter. The kid was just running around waving a towel, he would've been caught eventually when he got tired. The fans were cheering the kid on and I'm sure the cop got his ego bruised since he couldn't catch him and chose to make the kid ride the lightning.

Tasers are meant to stop violent situations from escalating in order to subdue someone. Not catching some idiot fan running in an OPEN FIELD with literally no place to go. Soooo justified, it's the first time it's happened. I wonder why?
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You make too much sense, you shouldn't be posting on ATOT it's very out of character to have a post that's totally on point like this.

The bottom line is the Cop tased him because he didn't want to run and knew he couldn't catch him any ways. Tasers are for criminals, while this dude's obviously a dumb ass he's not a criminal. I guess the lesson everyone should learn here is you don't have to be a criminal to get tased, all you have to do is make a cop run a little and BOOM you're getting it.
 
Deeko

Deeko

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QueBert said:
You make too much sense, you shouldn't be posting on ATOT it's very out of character to have a post that's totally on point like this.

The bottom line is the Cop tased him because he didn't want to run and knew he couldn't catch him any ways. Tasers are for criminals, while this dude's obviously a dumb ass he's not a criminal. I guess the lesson everyone should learn here is you don't have to be a criminal to get tased, all you have to do is make a cop run a little and BOOM you're getting it.
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Lets see...last time I checked, a criminal is one who commits a crime, correct? Are we agreeing on that definition?

Ok good. So now...if he is clearly guilty of, oh "criminal trespass & resisting arrest".....two crimes.....would that not make him a criminal? Come on, one of the charges has "criminal" in the name!

edit: just in case you don't agree with my definition of criminal, the dictionary does:

crim·i·nal (krm-nl)
adj.
1. Of, involving, or having the nature of crime: criminal abuse.
2. Relating to the administration of penal law.
3.
a. Guilty of crime.
b. Characteristic of a criminal.
4. Shameful; disgraceful: a criminal waste of talent.
n.
One that has committed or been legally convicted of a crime.
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QueBert

QueBert

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Deeko said:
Lets see...last time I checked, a criminal is one who commits a crime, correct? Are we agreeing on that definition?

Ok good. So now...if he is clearly guilty of, oh "criminal trespass & resisting arrest".....two crimes.....would that not make him a criminal? Come on, one of the charges has "criminal" in the name!

edit: just in case you don't agree with my definition of criminal, the dictionary does:
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You're right he was committing a crime, and by the exact definition I think Cops should start tasing people who speed, because they're committing a crime.

I'll rephrase to say tasers should only be used on dangerous criminals, if you don't agree I hope you get tased next time you're speeding on the freeway...
 
Deeko

Deeko

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QueBert said:
You're right he was committing a crime, and by the exact definition I think Cops should start tasing people who speed, because they're committing a crime.

I'll rephrase to say tasers should only be used on dangerous criminals, if you don't agree I hope you get tased next time you're speeding on the freeway...
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Speeding is not a criminal offense, it is a civil infraction. I don't commit too many criminal offenses that I can think of.

Besides, resisting arrest is one of the exact purposes of the taser, which, like it or not, is what this kid was doing.
 
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mwtgg

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So I was at this game and personally, I found it hilarious.

Back to the matter at hand: he didn't appear armed and he didn't appear to put anyone in danger.

These sort of incidents have been happening forever, without the use of tazers. I feel like this use of force was excessive. The kid was young, dumb, and likely drunk. Sure, he learned a lesson, but c'mon.
 
zerocool84

zerocool84

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You guys are forgetting that who knows if he had a weapon on him. We live in this crazy world and can't trust that someone running around like that doesn't have some type of weapon or something that could hurt people. There were players on the field and thousands of people in the stands. I for one am glad they tazed him. He deserved that for being so stupid. If he had something on you, you guys would be saying why didn't they taze him.
 
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CTrain

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At first I thought the taser was excessive force but after hearing arguement from both side, I agree with the decision to taser him.
All you have to do is remember the Monica Seles incident.
Fans have no business being on the field.
Sure, after the fact we all know this was a harmless kid but all this was unknown at the time.
NO one knew his intention at the time. He could have had a knife on him. Noone knows.
This should be a lesson for all future running on the field wannabe.
They should just put a sign you wil get tasered if you run on the field.
 
GasX

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Kipper717 said:
Maybe the kid was running around for a while but, from what I saw on the video that's out there, the cop didn't even really make an attempt to tackle him, but had the taser out right away.
I mean he could have made at least tried to catch him before using the taser.
If the kid was running around for ten minutes and they just couldn't catch him then I could understand the use of the taser.
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Why? Just taze anyone going on the field. Two or three publicized tazerings and the problem is solved.
 
Capt Caveman

Capt Caveman

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CTrain said:
At first I thought the taser was excessive force but after hearing arguement from both side, I agree with the decision to taser him.
All you have to do is remember the Monica Seles incident.
Fans have no business being on the field.
Sure, after the fact we all know this was a harmless kid but all this was unknown at the time.
NO one knew his intention at the time. He could have had a knife on him. Noone knows.
This should be a lesson for all future running on the field wannabe.
They should just put a sign you wil get tasered if you run on the field.
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As Mar23 posted, someone has already been attacked on the field.

mar23 said:
The kid deserved it... Every should check out this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG8nYtDkkqE
goto 1:07
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Bth47

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Just had another fan run on the field tonight.

Way to interrupt the game when your pitcher is pitching a shutout...

Of course the Cardinals radio broadcaster said the fan last night was "Lasered"
 
Triumph

Triumph

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Not only should that retard have been tazed, his punishment should be a right proper tazing a second time.
 
DrPizza

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Loop2kil said:
They to make this a universally known punishment for anyone who runs onto the field like this. I bet the number of idiots who attempt this would go down drastically.
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While I agree that he deserved this, AFAIK, the job of the police is to enforce the law, not hand out punishments. It's the job of the judge to determine the appropriate punishment. Have you people forgotten some of the most basic principles of our democracy?
 
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