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after seeing this act of heroism, i will

  • be more vigilant in keeping up my weapon skills to defend myself and others

  • still anti-gun. i will cry and hide in the corner. criminals take my stuff, kill whoever

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Carson Dyle said:
The guy got extraordinarily lucky. He's _your_ hero, maybe, certainly not mine. I think he's a fucking idiot.
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And once again you prove how ignorant you are.

He defended himself instead of becoming a crying puddle of piss in the corner like people like you would. I'm glad you admit to being a coward. I just wish you would stop posting.
 
Carson Dyle said:
Find some evidence of that and maybe I'll buy it. Given the video evidence, he looks like a guy who had no clue what he was doing, like most gun owners.
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It's pretty evident he was fearless by going right at the guy. Being fearless is important in a life or death situation. His shots were also on target which is also important.

He hid that fact he was drawing his weapon by being behind his employees. That's kinda iffy but for all anyone knew the guy was going to rob the place and execute everyone in the building. It's hard to judge his decision which happened in the blink of an eye until you're in a similar situation.

I have to give the guy credit. He made the decision that it was him or the robber and followed through.
 
balloonshark said:
It's pretty evident he was fearless by going right at the guy. Being fearless is important in a life or death situation. His shots were also on target which is also important.

He hid that fact he was drawing his weapon by being behind his employees. That's kinda iffy but for all anyone knew the guy was going to rob the place and execute everyone in the building. It's hard to judge his decision which happened in the blink of an eye until you're in a similar situation.

I have to give the guy credit. He made the decision that it was him or the robber and followed through.
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He also made a one in a million shot by hitting and jamming the other guy's slide. That tells me he was aiming very well under fire.

Good shoot.
 
balloonshark said:
It's pretty evident he was fearless by going right at the guy.
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Being fearless and being intelligent are two different things.

Yeah, hell of a shot. Must have been the first thing they taught him: make sure you disable the other guy's gun. Because you may not like what happens if you don't.
 
Carson Dyle said:
Being fearless and being intelligent are two different things.

Yeah, hell of a shot. Must have been the first thing they taught him: make sure you disable the other guy's gun. Because you may not like what happens if you don't.
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And please tell us what you would have done.

You are in charge. There are innocent people in the store with you. You have a masked gunman threatening your employees. What would Carson Dyle do?

I think from now on, in every situation. I am going to ask myself What Would Carson Dyle Do. I'll update my sig just to make sure.
 
balloonshark said:
...He hid that fact he was drawing his weapon by being behind his employees. ...
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lol, think their ears are still ringing? I'm sure they're happy to be alive, but I bet that was loud.
He was fortunate to have them in front. He wasn't as smooth as he could have been with the safety. Could have gotten him killed. Granted, I write that sitting here at my desk under zero stress. Probably a good reminder to everyone to train in that area.
 
skyking said:
he was not aiming for his gun, it just got in the way. It made for an interesting byline for the media.
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Sorry if I implied that.

My point was the gun would have been in front of the robber's face or body. So the good guy was aiming well. Only HumblePie could hit the slide like that.


Attacking a poster who is not even participating in this thread is over the line. This is your one warning.

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rudeguy said:
Sorry if I implied that.

My point was the gun would have been in front of the robber's face or body. So the good guy was aiming well. Only HumblePie could hit the slide like that.
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Was not really directed at you dude 🙂 It was mentioned by others in the thread and is more of an example of how we all are manipulated by the media.
 
Carson Dyle said:
That's the understatement of the night. That could have gone so wrong it's not even funny.

Comes out shooting from behind two fellow employees. Just brilliant. Sometimes things go right for all the wrong reasons. In the end, he's just another idiot with a gun. This time, one that somehow managed not to get himself or anyone near him killed.
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Seemed like he was using his own employees as human shields....

:hmm:
 
Markbnj said:
Well if he enjoyed exercising them that time I would think he was kind of a nut.
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oh please. You know very well that the media make anyone out to be a nut who has multiple guns and/or a supply of ammo.

"A search of his house revealed an arsenal of automatic weapons"....cut the the shot and its 3 Glocks, a hunting rifle and enough ammo for 3 trips to the range.
 
He fired his weapons behind his employees,.. NOW I see why some of you guys are praising this man as a hero.

He certainly has every right to defend himself, no dispute. But, he showed irresponsible behavior by hiding behind his employees to draw and fire his gun. That is pretty fucked up.

Sure, he took the chance,.. but, he took the chance with the lives of two other people.

Personally, I would have told the employees to leave/duck and then fire. I would not draw and fire behind anyone.

I am glad nothing bad happened to them. But, this was certainly fucked up of him.

And, if the employees could not leave/duck, I would give over the money without incident.
 
poll options suck

Just cause you are a target in fear that needs a gun doesn't mean we all are. I lived in Detroit in the past, taken trips all over the world, never once held up or robbed. I'm not and neither is my house presented as a target worth going after for a robber. No reason for me to have a gun, just flat out don't need one.
 
Newell Steamer said:
He fired his weapons behind his employees,.. NOW I see why some of you guys are praising this man as a hero.

He certainly has every right to defend himself, no dispute. But, he showed irresponsible behavior by hiding behind his employees to draw and fire his gun. That is pretty fucked up.

Sure, he took the chance,.. but, he took the chance with the lives of two other people.

Personally, I would have told the employees to leave/duck and then fire. I would not draw and fire behind anyone.

I am glad nothing bad happened to them. But, this was certainly fucked up of him.

And, if the employees could not leave/duck, I would give over the money without incident.
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because having someone threaten you with a gun could not possibly end without incident.

You are saying you would prefer to trust your life to a gunman than depend yourself. No thanks.
 
rudeguy said:
oh please. You know very well that the media make anyone out to be a nut who has multiple guns and/or a supply of ammo.
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The media? Like there's one monolithic media, and it's out to get you? It wasn't the idea of the right to self-defense that struck me as insane. It was the word "enjoying."
 
PixelSquish said:
the gun nuts are yes, the gun nuts.

nuts, no logic, no sense, just nuts. good to see another post verifying that.
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I would say that the pro-gun rights crowd is the side that tends to be more logical and use some sort of common sense. The anti-gun crowd is emotion driven and illogical. Just look at some of the gun control laws that do nothing worthwhile to fix the problems.
 
Markbnj said:
The media? Like there's one monolithic media, and it's out to get you? It wasn't the idea of the right to self-defense that struck me as insane. It was the word "enjoying."
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His wording sucked, which is why I helped.

And yes, the media is one big monolithic piece of garbage adding hyperbole to any story it can.
 
Newell Steamer said:
He fired his weapons behind his employees,.. NOW I see why some of you guys are praising this man as a hero.

He certainly has every right to defend himself, no dispute. But, he showed irresponsible behavior by hiding behind his employees to draw and fire his gun. That is pretty fucked up.

Sure, he took the chance,.. but, he took the chance with the lives of two other people.

Personally, I would have told the employees to leave/duck and then fire. I would not draw and fire behind anyone.

I am glad nothing bad happened to them. But, this was certainly fucked up of him.

And, if the employees could not leave/duck, I would give over the money without incident.
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Would you say the same thing if the guy took the money and then gunned down every person in the store? I'm sure it was one of the possibilities that probably ran through the owners head in a split second.

At my first jobs we were told just to hand over the money. That doesn't guarantee anyones safety though when you're dealing with a desperate person with a weapon. Truth is, you don't know who you're dealing with on either side of the counter. It's just good to see someone being proactive. It reminds the bad guys that they have something to lose.
 
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