Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh will NOT make the Hobbit!!

[Alone]

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: LanceM
I liked the movies better than the books, which I read about ten years ago.

I enjoyed the LOTR trilogy. However i could never read the book, that thing is the size of an encyclopaedia. I've got the book at home (the hobbit too), never going to read either though.

Once you start, you won't want to put the book down. I read each book out of the series in a day a piece.

 

[jjones]

That's too bad. The LOTR movies were great and it would have been nice to have Jackson do the Hobbit as well.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: Alone
Once you start, you won't want to put the book down. I read each book out of the series in a day a piece.

Bah, the books are good, but not great. The first time I tried reading them, I read the Hobbit (liked it) and the first 2.5 books of the LOTR. Put it down and didn't look back until the movies came out (15 years later).

 

[Hyperlite]

Originally posted by: RandomFool
I liked the movies and the books...I hoping he'd so the hobbit too.

and I thought Halo was canceled?

well, it wasn't explicitly cancled...as i understood it, peter jackson was still working on the screen play, but universal pulled funding because the budget was approaching superman levels. Mabye once the screenplay and/or script is finished it will get picked back up.

 

[Alone]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: Alone
Once you start, you won't want to put the book down. I read each book out of the series in a day a piece.

Bah, the books are good, but not great. The first time I tried reading them, I read the Hobbit (liked it) and the first 2.5 books of the LOTR. Put it down and didn't look back until the movies came out (15 years later).

I read the Hobbit last.

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
NOW who is going to produce a movie that completely misses the point of the book it's based on to laughable results and still mystifyingly garner acclaim and fortune??!!

You know nothing about tolkiens work... He detested allegory and wrote the books purely as ledgend because he felt that aside from the christian Authurian mythology Brittian had no myths of their own.

Jackson did just that, doing tolkien justice, you are a tool...

So you're content because Jackson created "a" legend. Tolkien created a masterful one. Jackson's was a laughably portrayed anemic one. But if that's all it takes to make you happy....

I said he did it justice, he made it a epic movie ledgend in the best way he could. It would be like any attempting to the odyssey into movie. There is physically no way to completely recreate everything. Not to mention the entire time he was making those movies he was being chastized for making them too long. The studio actually originally wanted it to be one movie.

Can you even imagine what would have happened if there was no peter jackson to take up the banner and make sure that the story was not treated in such a way?

Honestly, I think everyone who is knocking jackson and his takes on certain events should step back and think what would have happened if some hack was put in charge of the movie. Remember what happened to the batman franchise when that bastardo Joel Schumacher started making into a huge clown pen is?

 

[jjones]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
NOW who is going to produce a movie that completely misses the point of the book it's based on to laughable results and still mystifyingly garner acclaim and fortune??!!

You know nothing about tolkiens work... He detested allegory and wrote the books purely as ledgend because he felt that aside from the christian Authurian mythology Brittian had no myths of their own.

Jackson did just that, doing tolkien justice, you are a tool...

So you're content because Jackson created "a" legend. Tolkien created a masterful one. Jackson's was a laughably portrayed anemic one. But if that's all it takes to make you happy....

The only way they could have done the books justice, at least the way you want it, was making a ten hour film of each book, and that's just not going to happen.

I separate the movies from the books and let each stand on their own. The books are great and the movies, for what they were, are great as well. If you've ever seen Ralph Bakshi's abortion, I think you'd have an appreciation for what Jackson accomplished.

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: jjones
That's too bad. The LOTR movies were great and it would have been nice to have Jackson do the Hobbit as well.

Isn?t the Hobbit aimed at a younger target audience. Maybe that's the reason why Peter Jackson is not interested in making the movie.

 

[Alone]

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: jjones
That's too bad. The LOTR movies were great and it would have been nice to have Jackson do the Hobbit as well.

Isn?t the Hobbit aimed at a younger target audience. Maybe that's the reason why Peter Jackson is not interested in making the movie.

I wouldn't say so.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: jjones

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
NOW who is going to produce a movie that completely misses the point of the book it's based on to laughable results and still mystifyingly garner acclaim and fortune??!!

You know nothing about tolkiens work... He detested allegory and wrote the books purely as ledgend because he felt that aside from the christian Authurian mythology Brittian had no myths of their own.

Jackson did just that, doing tolkien justice, you are a tool...

So you're content because Jackson created "a" legend. Tolkien created a masterful one. Jackson's was a laughably portrayed anemic one. But if that's all it takes to make you happy....

The only way they could have done the books justice, at least the way you want it, was making a ten hour film of each book, and that's just not going to happen.

Then why even make the movies based on the books? Create your own original idea. If you're going to use somebody else's you owe it to them to do it justice. Jackson and Walsh even said that when they first sat down they knew that the stories as they were written wouldn't work. So they basically went ahead and made the films anyway for the glory and the money.......glossing over the lack of substance with fancy CGI.

Honestly, the movies by themselves are lousy. Every single actor in that series gave their absolute worst performances of their lives. That brooding mood from the books and sense of desperation/dread is absent. The characters themselves are all totally cardboard. The storyline from the books isn't strong by itself.....it's what happens when you intertwine all the minor storylines that makes it compelling.

 

[Xyo II]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: Alone
Once you start, you won't want to put the book down. I read each book out of the series in a day a piece.

Bah, the books are good, but not great. The first time I tried reading them, I read the Hobbit (liked it) and the first 2.5 books of the LOTR. Put it down and didn't look back until the movies came out (15 years later).

I loved reading The Hobbit, but I thought the others were pretty boring, so I didn't finish them. I like the movies though 🙂

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: jjones

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
NOW who is going to produce a movie that completely misses the point of the book it's based on to laughable results and still mystifyingly garner acclaim and fortune??!!

You know nothing about tolkiens work... He detested allegory and wrote the books purely as ledgend because he felt that aside from the christian Authurian mythology Brittian had no myths of their own.

Jackson did just that, doing tolkien justice, you are a tool...

So you're content because Jackson created "a" legend. Tolkien created a masterful one. Jackson's was a laughably portrayed anemic one. But if that's all it takes to make you happy....

The only way they could have done the books justice, at least the way you want it, was making a ten hour film of each book, and that's just not going to happen.

Then why even make the movies based on the books? Create your own original idea. If you're going to use somebody else's you owe it to them to do it justice. Jackson and Walsh even said that when they first sat down they knew that the stories as they were written wouldn't work. So they basically went ahead and made the films anyway for the glory and the money.......glossing over the lack of substance with fancy CGI.

Honestly, the movies by themselves are lousy. Every single actor in that series gave their absolute worst performances of their lives. That brooding mood from the books and sense of desperation/dread is absent. The characters themselves are all totally cardboard. The storyline from the books isn't strong by itself.....it's what happens when you intertwine all the minor storylines that makes it compelling.

Smoke some more crack.

Seriously, with that defeatist attitude, how can you enjoy anything in life? Seems to me like you would rather have no LOTR movies at all. I admit I didn't think they could be done properly but I give credit to Jackson's work on the films - they couldn't be done any better. Well, except by you of course. Hey, you could even include yourself in the movies AS yourself - a troll! Brilliant!

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Honestly, the movies by themselves are lousy. Every single actor in that series gave their absolute worst performances of their lives. That brooding mood from the books and sense of desperation/dread is absent. The characters themselves are all totally cardboard. The storyline from the books isn't strong by itself.....it's what happens when you intertwine all the minor storylines that makes it compelling.

😕
I picked up quite a bit of brooding/desperation/dread. Maybe you just suck?

 

[Alone]

No one forces you to watch the movies if you don't want to. You like the book? Go read the book. Some people just don't have the time to sit down and enjoy a good book. Do you think movies aren't here to rake in the cash?

 

[Alone]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Honestly, the movies by themselves are lousy. Every single actor in that series gave their absolute worst performances of their lives. That brooding mood from the books and sense of desperation/dread is absent. The characters themselves are all totally cardboard. The storyline from the books isn't strong by itself.....it's what happens when you intertwine all the minor storylines that makes it compelling.

😕
I picked up quite a bit of brooding/desperation/dread. Maybe you just suck?

Agreed. The emotion was clearly present in each character. I think it's the exact opposite of what he said; in my honest opinion, it was some of their better work.

 

[lokiju]

Originally posted by: Hyperlite
I'm more interested in seeing Peter Jackson's Halo.

You might be waiting for awhile.

"Comments: Peter Jackson, Fran Walsh and Microsoft, have postponed this project."

From IMDB

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Honestly, the movies by themselves are lousy. Every single actor in that series gave their absolute worst performances of their lives. That brooding mood from the books and sense of desperation/dread is absent. The characters themselves are all totally cardboard. The storyline from the books isn't strong by itself.....it's what happens when you intertwine all the minor storylines that makes it compelling.

😕
I picked up quite a bit of brooding/desperation/dread. Maybe you just suck?

Did you read the books or are you just randomly throwing your .02 into the discussion for the heck of it? :thumbsup:

 

[yowolabi]

Originally posted by: jjones

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
NOW who is going to produce a movie that completely misses the point of the book it's based on to laughable results and still mystifyingly garner acclaim and fortune??!!

You know nothing about tolkiens work... He detested allegory and wrote the books purely as ledgend because he felt that aside from the christian Authurian mythology Brittian had no myths of their own.

Jackson did just that, doing tolkien justice, you are a tool...

So you're content because Jackson created "a" legend. Tolkien created a masterful one. Jackson's was a laughably portrayed anemic one. But if that's all it takes to make you happy....

The only way they could have done the books justice, at least the way you want it, was making a ten hour film of each book, and that's just not going to happen.

I separate the movies from the books and let each stand on their own. The books are great and the movies, for what they were, are great as well. If you've ever seen Ralph Bakshi's abortion, I think you'd have an appreciation for what Jackson accomplished.

Agreed. No the movies were not as in depth as the books. But that's a problem with movies themselves. Neither HeroOfPellinor or any other director could have done a much better job than Jackson with making the books into movies. It's easy to criticize that the book isn't the same as the movie, and a lot harder to come up with a plan that's more faithful to the book and still manages to entertain people who've never heard of the books.

 

[dennilfloss]

I read Peter Frampton. Time to go sleep for a while. 😱

 

[Dumac]

The LOTR books are an awesome example of fantasy literature. It is a great series, and I believe that if you can't get into them then you have no real stake in the fantasy genre 🙂 As someone else mentioned, the Wheel of Time series is supposed to be another great example of great fantasy.

Fantasy is all about the world and history of that world creates. If you had problems coping with this or enjoying this in the LOTR trilogy then perhaps you just don't like the genre, or like a more juvenile form of it.

The movies were great, in my opinion. They opened the LOTR world to many different people, as can be seen by all who saw the movie and haven't read the book in this thread. I hope that seeing the movie inspired some to read the book. Yes, the movies did have some flaws. Yes, I believe some parts should have been different and closer to the book. Every transfer of a story to another form of media has errors though, and I believe the LOTR movies are an exceptional transfer.

In the end, the book > the movie, but the movies are still great 🙂

It would have been awesome if they were 4-5 hours each though 😉

 

[Alone]

Originally posted by: Dumac
The LOTR books are an awesome example of fantasy literature. It is a great series, and I believe that if you can't get into them then you have no real stake in the fantasy genre 🙂 As someone else mentioned, the Wheel of Time series is supposed to be another great example of great fantasy.

Fantasy is all about the world and history of that world creates. If you had problems coping with this or enjoying this in the LOTR trilogy then perhaps you just don't like the genre, or like a more juvenile form of it.

The movies were great, in my opinion. They opened the LOTR world to many different people, as can be seen by all who saw the movie and haven't read the book in this thread. I hope that seeing the movie inspired some to read the book. Yes, the movies did have some flaws. Yes, I believe some parts should have been different and closer to the book. Every transfer of a story to another form of media has errors though, and I believe the LOTR movies are an exceptional transfer.

In the end, the book > the movie, but the movies are still great 🙂

It would have been awesome if they were 4-5 hours each though 😉

:thumbsup: I wish they would release a special edition version without the deleted scenes and all that. Just a full blown movie, no cuts. I'd buy it.

 

[LtPage1]

Originally posted by: lokiju

Originally posted by: LanceM
I liked the movies better than the books, which I read about ten years ago.

I don't recall where I read it before but it's been said that the LOTR movies are one of the few exceptions where the movie is actually better than the books.

Please remove yourself from the gene pool, through whatever means you deem most appropriate.

While the films are amazing, and astonishingly good, whoever said they were actually better than the books is an idiot, and hasn't read the books.

 

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: Alone
That really sucks. I liked the movies almost as much as the books, and I would love to see Jackson do The Hobbit.

 

[prontospyder]

Originally posted by: Alone

Originally posted by: Dumac
The LOTR books are an awesome example of fantasy literature. It is a great series, and I believe that if you can't get into them then you have no real stake in the fantasy genre 🙂 As someone else mentioned, the Wheel of Time series is supposed to be another great example of great fantasy.

Fantasy is all about the world and history of that world creates. If you had problems coping with this or enjoying this in the LOTR trilogy then perhaps you just don't like the genre, or like a more juvenile form of it.

The movies were great, in my opinion. They opened the LOTR world to many different people, as can be seen by all who saw the movie and haven't read the book in this thread. I hope that seeing the movie inspired some to read the book. Yes, the movies did have some flaws. Yes, I believe some parts should have been different and closer to the book. Every transfer of a story to another form of media has errors though, and I believe the LOTR movies are an exceptional transfer.

In the end, the book > the movie, but the movies are still great 🙂

It would have been awesome if they were 4-5 hours each though 😉

:thumbsup: I wish they would release a special edition version without the deleted scenes and all that. Just a full blown movie, no cuts. I'd buy it.

The extended editions still weren't enough? 🙂

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: Majesty
The Balrog's behavior is a transvestite of what it is suppose to be

What? 😕