Pet Cloning

Rubycon

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Article here

So this lady feels bad that her dog has passed, wants to go through with this, etc. Let's forget about morality of the cloning issue as well as the money for now...

Cloning of dogs isn't really new - but this is a first. Ok so she gets her dog...

Now what? It's not just going to grow up and act the same as the original right? I mean these animals are like wet cement - whatever falls on them leaves a lasting impression. So if she does not raise the new dog just like the original he or she is going to be a different animal right? Things will happen differently and the dog will be different enough. Why not just buy another of the same breed, color, etc?

If you really loved a pet and money was of little concern would you do this too?
 

randay

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almost all of your questions are related to the moral issues.

Does a dogs behaviour and training identify it as "itself" or is it genetics, or what?

i think the only thing you can be certain of is that it wont come out of the oven with the same exact memories as the old dog.
 

Goosemaster

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IF this means that I can walk my dog without a leash cause I'll have another one baking in the oven in case she gets hit by traffic, I'm all all for it and she probably is too...
 

Eli

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It would be interesting to see just how different the animals are.

Obviously they would look exactly the same, but it would help show how much of an animals personality is nature or nurture.

My guess is that it is more of the latter and the dog will be completely different.
 

Goosemaster

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Strangely enough, I was hitting some podcasts this afternoon on my way home and came across this :

http://www.nationalgeographic....ts/wildchronicles.html

Dog Nature
Are dogs being treated like pets, or have they become too pampered? Todayâ??s pooch has a wide variety of formerly human activities to experience, such as doggie yoga and canine clothing lines. But some animal experts are worried that forcing dogs to adopt human persona's is causing them an undue amount of stress.

We've basically bred them into our own little emotional companions. Watching that you get a sense that we have completely molded an entire species around out own desires. If you put aside the irreversible precedent that cloning will create if dogs reach a state beyond commodity (treated SOLELY as intellectual property and not life, and a state where their right-to-life is nonexistent and completely arbitrary) we sort of already do this.
 

Locut0s

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I can understand the feeling of need to do this after loosing a loved pet but like you said there is no reason why the cloned pet will come out exactly the same as the pet you just lost. Many of the same reasons for not cloning a lost son or daughter apply to a lost pet as well.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: Locut0s
I can understand the feeling of need to do this after loosing a loved pet but like you said there is no reason why the cloned pet will come out exactly the same as the pet you just lost. Many of the same reasons for not cloning a lost son or daughter apply to a lost pet as well.

People are idiots though...


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Shawn

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I'm guessing that they would be pretty close unless one was beaten or something.
 

0roo0roo

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as a twin it would be somewhat predictable in temperament..
if u can afford it i don't see why not.
 

Codewiz

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Ok temperament is largely genetic. Just look at breeds of dogs. There are instincts that are common in certain breeds of dogs.

So cloning a dog, would result in a dog that was very very similar in temperament as the original. Personality will be dictated by how it is raised.

Personally, I would rather just go get another dog and know how to pick out a dog with a good temperament.
 

TallBill

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Having a pet already makes no sense. Owning a functional animal does, but just to have around is weird. Treating it like a friend is weirder. Of course they love you, you give them food.