Perfectly Working Optiplex Has No POST beep

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Must be one cure somwhere.but its to put the finger on it

C'est VRAIMENT!!!

See, chasing data, problem solving, for me, is way better than gaming could ever be.

Now, Denis......I could not get all of them in one screenie cause there are so many services.....but where is the one I am looking for re the beep? Cause article said it can be turned off or on in Services. I must find out if mine might be turned off!

I don't see it, but I am not sure what I am looking for. I first looked at the ones which are disabled, moused over each bringing up its description to see if that might be the one, but I don't think any are the one.

 

[Virgorising]

Well, I just ran this command prompt as per below, and I got a beep. But, it was a DOS beep from my speakers, not like a POST beep from the board.

This file generate bips for ms-dos, and is not dangerous, but a system file. Try it launching cmd.exe and write: "echo " then press Ctrl+G and press Enter. Never delete this file. It is used when you haven't got any drivers for sound. It is a non-plug-and-play peripheral and a system service.​

DxShadow

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Hah! I am not the only one confused by this!

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Originally Posted by Jim@HiTek
I can be dumb sometimes but I'll just throw this out there.

The picture you show above is a 'Beeper', a ceramic device. The mobo calls for a 'Speaker' (which has an internal coil), usually mounted on the front panel, to give you system beeps. I'm not sure, but perhaps if you used a speaker rather then a beeper, you'd hear the 'Beeps' instead of 'clicks' or 'ticks', which can be hard to decipher.

I'm kind of confused. . .It's labeled speaker but is really a beeper? I thought they were the same thing
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OMG...

Re: Motherboard Beep, what does it mean?
Well, sorry to confuse you MysterySandwich. If what came with your mobo is what you show in post #3, then that's the correct device. I should have just asked that question instead of blathering. In my experience, most buzzers use that form factor shown in your picture, whereas speakers are larger...generally. Dai is saying that computer speakers now come in that form.

If that device shown in post #3 did not come with the mobo, I'd just recommend grabbing an actual small speaker out of another computer case and try it. (All it would do if that's what's called for, is make the sound of the 'beeps' more well defined and easier to hear).

But to ramble on, many of those devices I've seen that I call buzzers are actually piezoelectric transducers. They generally emit a pleasing sound at one frequency, and the circuitry on the mobo is designed to supply that frequency. A speaker though, can emit a whole range of frequencies, and the circuitry is more like an audio amplifier. Buzzer=One frequency; Speaker=Many frequencies.


And guess what we see in his post #3. Yep, and with the red and black wires mines does not have.


The sound is comnig from the speaker/beeper/buzzer/whatever it is called

I'm sure it's that because when I take it off and turn it back on the sound doesn't happen. Could the speaker be broken?
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Fair warning; some should not read below, cause heads could explode from overload. Wish I could get overloaded helpers to sign Hold Harmless documents, but I can't. lol

Modern [COLOR=blue !important][FONT=inherit !important][COLOR=blue !important][FONT=inherit !important]mobos[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR] usually have an on board beeper (aka buzzer) that is an electromechanical device,like a speaker...which is why some manufacturers call them speakers. It is actually a hybrid speaker as it contains a coil like a speaker but the resistance (>60 ohm) is higher. (The piezoelectric device I mentioned earlier was used on the first IBM's sold, but hasn't been used for years in computers).

Your mobo does not have one of those on-board devices. Those mobos withbeepers generally use special electronics to PCM (pulsecode modulate) signals to it so a buzzer behaves and sounds like a (poor) speaker. That way you can hear both the beeps at turn on from the BIOS & audio from the OS so if your amplified speakers are turned off or you don't have any, you can still hear (poor quality) audio.

Standard speakercircuitry on the other hand, as I mentioned earlier, is more like a traditional home audio amplifier, with an analog output. That sort of circuitry requires a traditional style magnetic speaker to sound pleasant. It's resistance runs around 8 ohms. This is the type of circuitry your mobo has connected to F_Audio.

It is a mobo manufacturers decision whether to provide a buzzer, buzzer connector, speaker connection or any combination. And the case manufacturers decision whether to provide a mounted speaker or loose speaker, or provide a loose buzzer.

 

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No hitting, this is last one for now.....I just spoke with Andrew at Dell. No, chatted with. It is Sunday, so he offered to do consult someone higher and email me the info tomorrow.

I will not be happy until I understand this!!! And I make no apology for that.:sneaky:

[FONT=&quot]Initial Question/Comment: .Hi, and may the Cyber God bless U for being there. Yesterday, I had chat with yr fab colleague, Sandra. She was very helpful, but I now need one piece of info on the issue with my amazing Optiplex 980, which does not give system beeps.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Connected with ProSupport Andrew Riggins[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot] ProSupport Andrew Riggins [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Thank you for contacting Dell Pro Support. My name is Andrew Riggins. In case we get disconnected, you can reach me at andrew_riggins@dell.com. How can I assist you today?[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot] J Andrew! thanks so much for being there![/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot] J [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Andrew, I have a huge thread on this n my tech site, it boggles some very savvy techies there. my Opti 980 my third Opti, I LUV THEM), GIVES NO SYSTEM BEEPS, I.E. AT post.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot] J [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]My board has the buzzer (#15 on the illustration in tech manual), Sandra said the system did not ship with an internal speaker (#8) and, I see that, but she also said, the buzzer can not work without one. Is that right, Andrew???[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] 4:08:23 PM [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]J [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]I am running W7 64-bit, and Sandra tole me that A14 bios is available and I updated to it.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot] ProSupport Andrew Riggins [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Most all the systems should have a basic PC speaker for beep codes. The internal business speaker option would be more for regular audio.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot] ProSupport Andrew Riggins [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]In general though, the systems do not beep at post unless there is a problem (like no memory installed).[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]J [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]If you need any more info, Andrew, you have only to ask.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot] J[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]OMG!!!!! they do not beep at POST unless there is a problem? Andrew, this is my third Opti.....they all beep normally at POST.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]One normal beep at POST!!!! Is the not doing that SOMETHING NEW?[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot] J [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]This is the only computer I ever had that doesn't beep at POST.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot] ProSupport Andrew Riggins [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]I'm not near a 980 model to check at the moment, though I can try sending an email to one my team leads to see if they can double check in the lab tomorrow when everyone gets back.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]J[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Andrew is typing.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]OMG! that......would B AMAZING OF U!!!!![/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]I will tell Michael Dell to buy you a Ferrari.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot] J [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]You have my service tag.....so U know this is a MT.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot] J [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Andrew, will you do that and email me??????[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot] J [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Pls say if I am being clear about the issue and the question.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot] ProSupport Andrew Riggins [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Right, once I get word back from my team lead I'll be able to email you with the details.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot] ProSupport Andrew Riggins [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]I understand the issue being the question about the PC speaker / buzzer and beeps at post.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot] J [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Exaclty, and that mine is mute.....and Sandra said it's cause it needs the internal speaker. but I think that is not right.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot] J [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Hold on....I will get you a link to the thread; I pasted my chat with Sandra into it....[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot] J [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2356219[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot] J[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Andrew, I am very excited and can't wait to hear what your guys say about this!!!!![/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot] J [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]THE DEFINITIVE INFO!!![/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot] J [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Thanks MUCH, ANDREW.....HAVE AN EXCELLENT REST OF THE DAY.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] 4:21:31 PM [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot] ProSupport Andrew Riggins [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]You're welcome.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] 4:21:36 PM [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot] ProSupport Andrew Riggins [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Is there anything else I can help you with today?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] 4:21:41 PM [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot] J[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Smiling smilie.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] 4:21:51 PM [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot] J[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Ciao![/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot] ProSupport Andrew Riggins [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Thank you for choosing Dell Pro Support! We are always available at www.dell.com/chat. Please feel free to close this window at your convenience.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] 4:22:12 PM [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot] J [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Bye, Andrew.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] 4:22:40 PM [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot] J [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Will I get a chat log to paste into the thread?[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot] ProSupport Andrew Riggins [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]You should automatically receive a chat transcript in email at the closure of any chat session.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot] J [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]THANK U ANDREW!!!!![/FONT]

 

[Underclocked]

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/larryosterm...t-s-up-with-the-beep-driver-in-windows-7.aspx

http://forums.techguy.org/software-development/1096314-internal-pc-speaker-beep.html

 

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http://blogs.msdn.com/b/larryosterm...t-s-up-with-the-beep-driver-in-windows-7.aspx

http://forums.techguy.org/software-development/1096314-internal-pc-speaker-beep.html

OMG! Just as Denis said 37 pages ago in this thread! WAY!!!!!!!

MANY THANKS FOR THIS!!!:thumbsup::biggrin:

(I either saw the one from Larry Osterman, or one very similar mentioning the Americans With disabilities act early on.)
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For Windows 7, we resolved the issue completely – we moved all the functionality that used to be contained in Beep.Sys into the user mode system sounds agent – now when you call the Beep() API instead of manipulating the 8254 chip the call is re-routed into a user mode agent which actually plays the sounds.

Wut? They resolved it completely? No way. Not in this system. Why did they say this, that they resolved it????
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Re the second link; I get no system beeps at all.....not from the board, not from my external speakers. and, I now see yet another ominous warning not to mess with that drivers file.

Sigh. I will wait to hear back after Andrew passes things along to someone high on the Dell tech team and they weigh in. Maybe, then, I will have the simple, hard data I need to make the little light in my head stop blinking. Mind U, it ain BEEPING, it is jus blinking.:sneaky:

It also strikes me that this is the first time I have chosen to run 64-bit Windows. I could have re XP and then 7 in my now backup system but I chose not to.
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Edit: OK from Larry Osterman's blog, he who says with conviction the issue was resolved in W7 via this rerouting:

There was another benefit associated with this plan: Remember above when I mentioned that the 8254 output line was tied to a dedicated input on the sound card? Because of this input to the sound card, the sound hardware needed to stay powered on at full power all the time because the system couldn’t know when an application might call Beep and thus activate the 8254 (there’s no connection between the 8254 and the power management infrastructure so the system can’t power on the sound hardware when someone programs the 3rd timer on the 8254). By redirecting the Beep calls through the system audio hardware the system was able to put the sound hardware to sleep until it was needed.

Now....what does he mean "until it was needed"??? Does he he means until something goes awry? Does he eman what Andrew said: no beeps even on POST unless there IS SOMETHING AWRY? Or....apumpernickel?:sneaky:

Cause if U look, that is what he said! Which, I could not believe, and was like WUT???? If that is actually right, then it is not about malfunctioning not plug and play driver in W7 64 bit! It is about REROUTING.

 

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Depressing find re a response post in Larry Osterman's article, and Larry is an official MS human:

Dennis 5 Jan 2010 2:15 PM
Most of the PC's in the company I program for do not have sound systems/speakers (by design). I need the beep().

Now, that Dennis (two ns, unlike our Denis), is a programmer! Would not be surprised if his company buys Optiplexes. Most, it appears, beepless like my newest one.

See? This programmer, Dennis, says he needs beeps! Is anyone making fun of him? NO.()

I am no way a programmer. What I am, is far less pragmatic re what I am moved to, than I am purely passionate.

I will wait to hear from someone genius at Dell.....but right now, I think I will never have either a numbers matched '67 Tri power big block Vette......OR one beep from this system.

But I need to know what I must accept and what I do not need to accept.

 

[denis280]

C'est VRAIMENT!!!

See, chasing data, problem solving, for me, is way better than gaming could ever be.

Now, Denis......I could not get all of them in one screenie cause there are so many services.....but where is the one I am looking for re the beep? Cause article said it can be turned off or on in Services. I must find out if mine might be turned off!

I don't see it, but I am not sure what I am looking for. I first looked at the ones which are disabled, moused over each bringing up its description to see if that might be the one, but I don't think any are the one.

Widows audio (auto)and Windows audio endpoint builder (auto)Windows management instrumentation(auto)

 

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Widows audio (auto)and Windows audio endpoint builder (auto)Windows management instrumentation(auto)

Thanks for this! I did know logically to look at the audio ones, but only two and they were both on auto. I will now go back!
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K....the first two are already on automatic.

The third---sooo amazing U know about this stuff---- was started but on manual. I switched it to automatic. I will reboot. If just having done this simple thing makes my poor, mute Opti beep on POST, I will want nothin from Santa.

Below, before and then after.

 

[Virgorising]

I shut the system down, powered back on.....still beepless on POST.

BUT.... making honest efforts/trying is ALWAYS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.:thumbsup:

That thing I found saying can be turned on and off in services....did not mitigate what appears to be some underlying issue.

Thanks again, Denis, for helping me to, at least, try this.

Again, I can't wait to learn what the new Dell lead techie has to offer about this!:sneaky:
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Edit: Forgot to mention, when I powered on again I got flash of DOS window, I guess, indicating I had changed what I did.

 

[denis280]

Forgot to mention, when I powered on again I got flash of DOS window, I guess, indicating I had changed what I did.

Right on

 

[Underclocked]

Were you nearby, I would give you a system speaker to plug into that motherboard.

 

[Gunbuster]

Dude you need to get some pills for your OCD.

I don't remember any of my optiplexes ever beeping on POST. They are engineered to display error diag codes on the front panel or rear motherboard bracket.

Beep in device manager has NOTHING to do with the POST beep. I have only ever found that to make a beep when a Citrix terminal services session wanted to annoy people.

 

[Virgorising]

Were you nearby, I would give you a system speaker to plug into that motherboard.

OMG! So adorable!!!!:wub:

I was considering removing the one from my now backup Opti GX620, but I first need to understand why I get no system beeps just with the buzzer speaker, #15.

Sandra, after asking someone there during that chat, said I do need the system speaker, but I am not yet convinced.

Not yet received mail form Andrew, so I mailed him forwarding the chat log.....got automated response:

I am currently out of the office. Your response has been auto-forwarded to my backups<mailto:CPS_RR_Boyd_Scrub_Box@dell.com?subject=Back%20up%20for%20Andrew%20Riggins> so they will be able to follow up with you in my absence. You are also welcomed to contact them directly by clicking on the link above.

I appreciate your correspondence and will respond to you as soon as I return.

My normal hours are Sun-Wed 2:30PM - 1:30AM CST. Thank you for contacting Dell and have a great day!


I think I should get out my now backup Opti.....open it and see what the deal is in the box re buzzers, speakers and all that!Cause as the Opti before it, it BEEPS NORMALLY. Plus,I will learn things.

I am running W7 32 bit in that system.....SO, if it too, has the buzzer speak and is missing the more sophisticated internal speaker.....then just maybe it could be buggy driver in W7 64 bit and not hardware issue.

But that MS guy whose blog I was linked to.....said proudly and clearly, WE (I) FIXED IT in W7!!!!!! Now everything is beeping normally!

Yeah..... not so much, maybe.:\

PS Wait! I don't even have to! I have a spare board for my GX620! I forgot! I will just get it out and look at IT!!!!

 

[Virgorising]

Dude you need to get some pills for your OCD.

I don't remember any of my optiplexes ever beeping on POST. They are engineered to display error diag codes on the front panel or rear motherboard bracket.

Beep in device manager has NOTHING to do with the POST beep. I have only ever found that to make a beep when a Citrix terminal services session wanted to annoy people.

Well DUDE....I ain no DUDE. For openers.

And, OCD describes someone who is incapable of focusing like a laser and hanging in...someone facile with the attention span of a fungus gnat. Who U think that shoe fits?

One more once: this is my THIRD OPTI MT. The other two produced normal system beeps. My now backup GTX620 still does. I recently gave my first one, the GX260---with the famous clam tower, opens on huge steel hinges---- away.

And that the above is FOR REALS, (DUDE).....is AWESOME, right?:sneaky:

Give yr robot a hug for me.:sneaky: Does he beep on POST????

 

[Virgorising]

Right on

 

[Gunbuster]

"then just maybe it could be buggy driver in W7 64 bit"

Why do you think that fixing something in windows is going to make the POST beep come back?

POWER. ON. SELF. TEST. Windows is not loaded or active at that point.

 

[Virgorising]

"then just maybe it could be buggy driver in W7 64 bit"

Why do you think that fixing something in windows is going to make the POST beep come back?

POWER. ON. SELF. TEST. Windows is not loaded or active at that point.

First, thankfully, I have no need to pretend I know things I have yet to learn. That....speaks HEALTH.

Next, I've been delving online ongoing.....and, I came upon things which indicated that was something I should try. IS WHY.

Now, if you could be CONSTRUCTIVE and offer some accurate, viable data.....what do YOU think is precluding this system giving normal system beeps?

 

[Gunbuster]

Since it appears you have multiple versions of the same model then I would start using logic to narrow down the problem (If I didn't think it was totally inane to begin with)

Set BIOS settings on the "broken" system to the exact same as the working model.

Are BIOS versions the same?

Swap broken motherboard with working. Does the problem follow the motherboard?

Logic...

 

[Sheep221]

The post beep tone has been gradually phased-out in recent years, the last build I owned that had bios beep was PGA370 Celeron rig from 2002, since then all of my computers came without the tone, regardless the mobo had the buzzer or not.

It's not an issue, it's the property of the PC, just give it up, as there is not really a solution to bring it up back, unless you would want to program your own bios, but I guess you don't really want to do that.

Dude you need to get some pills for your OCD.

I don't remember any of my optiplexes ever beeping on POST. They are engineered to display error diag codes on the front panel or rear motherboard bracket.

Beep in device manager has NOTHING to do with the POST beep. I have only ever found that to make a beep when a Citrix terminal services session wanted to annoy people.

Probably everyone here noticed that she has weird thought processes, but it's quite adorable she at least does constructive hobby and participates in community. Most people of this kind end up on drugs or alcohol.

 

[Virgorising]

Since it appears you have multiple versions of the same model then I would start using logic to narrow down the problem (If I didn't think it was totally inane to begin with)

Set BIOS settings on the "broken" system to the exact same as the working model.

Are BIOS versions the same?

Swap broken motherboard with working. Does the problem follow the motherboard?

Logic...

K we are makin a little progress re this post. And I appreciate your not judging my determination to understand all this... CAVALIERLY. But "logic" which you imply YOU own, and I do not (SERIOUSLY????) does not exist within a vacuum. It sits on a foundation of laser focus and discernment.

Now FOCUS: this is the third Opti I have owned. No two ALIKE. It's simple: when one finally gets too slow for me, and its specs potential inadequate, I get a newer, faster one. Never because the existing one is broken in any way.

This, my newest one, the 980 MT, is also not BROKEN. There is nothing amiss with its board. Or, in fact, any other part of it, except, for reasons I still need to get clear on, it does not make system beeps.

My bios is up to date along with all drivers. (Dell techie just told me of the newest bios, A14, and I upgraded to it immediately.)

Finally, I looked (was told to), and there is nothing in the bios whicb can be configured re this issue.

Hope this clears things up some.

 

[Virgorising]

The post beep tone has been gradually phased-out in recent years, the last build I owned that had bios beep was PGA370 Celeron rig from 2002, since then all of my computers came without the tone, regardless the mobo had the buzzer or not.

It's not an issue, it's the property of the PC, just give it up, as there is not really a solution to bring it up back, unless you would want to program your own bios, but I guess you don't really want to do that.
Probably everyone here noticed that she has weird thought processes, but it's quite adorable she at least does constructive hobby and participates in community. Most people of this kind end up on drugs or alcohol.

Now THIS....is uberly helpful!!!! And it echos a couple of things one or two have said, including Sandra at Dell, tho her data were ambiguous, and so confused me.

SO.....if this is the simple info I need, that, while my two previous Optis gave normal system beeps, between the day of the GX620 and this, the 980.....the system beeps were done away with....THAT IS ALL I NEED TO KNOW!!!!!:thumbsup:

It would simply mean there is nothing WRONG WITH THIS SYSTEM.

Heartfelt thanks for this!!!!:thumbsup:
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Edit: I mean it, I think your offering is THE OFFERING!!!!!! OMG!!!! I feel so much better!

I just got out my spare board for my GX620....still working perfectly, tho in a closet now, it beeped normally. I once replaced the board, then got another spare cause I was paranoid....I get board on ebay, never had a problem, and no money.

I recall, when I replaced the board (I had used my powerful Miele vac on the original one, cause I din know better), I only put in a new CMOS batt, and naturally seated the chip and then went from there. No way did I pull any little internal speaker with black and red wires from the original board and transfer it to the new board!

Just made a bad pic of my other replacement board for that system, and I see the smaller than in the 980 little black round buzzer. (Don wanna get the actual machine out of the closet, and no need to cause I have this other board.)

THIS CONFIRMS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING!!!!
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Edit in response to your addenda: re my "thought processes" ....just when I was happily feeling big respect for you, forget gratitude, you messed up and lost points. Respect....is earned. Playing to the peanut gallery is wut it is: feeble. Never earns respect among those not in that miniscule gallery.

I get paid decent money for my "thought processes"......not to mention they also earned me an Ivy League scholarship. Ponder, babe!!!

We are all here to learn.:sneaky: and not only about tech issues per se....given we are humans.

Hold on, I am going to put up the bad pic of the GX620 board.....my now backup Opti which beeps NORMALLY.

 

[Sheep221]

Now THIS....is uberly helpful!!!! And it echos a couple of things one or two have said, including Sandra at Dell, tho her data were ambiguous, and so confused me.

SO.....if this is the simple info I need, that, while my two previous Optis gave normal system beeps, between the day of the GX620 and this, the 980.....the system beeps were done away with....THAT IS ALL I NEED TO KNOW!!!!!:thumbsup:

It would simply mean there is nothing WRONG WITH THIS SYSTEM.

Heartfelt thanks for this!!!!:thumbsup:

The latest mobos that came with original beep tone are AM2 and LGA775 mobos respectively. It seems that MSI today still feature post beep on some boards as an option that can be enabled or disabled in the bios.

 

[Virgorising]

The latest mobos that came with original beep tone are AM2 and LGA775 mobos respectively. It seems that MSI today still feature post beep on some boards as an option that can be enabled or disabled in the bios.

FASCINATING!!!!!!:thumbsup: Mainly, cause I can feel this is accurate!!!

 

[Virgorising]

Below, system board of my now backup GX620, which, like the GX260 before it, gave normal system beeps despite, I now see, it too only haS the little cylindrical black buzzer (circled in red) and NO OTHER internal speaker.

Tho, that system is running W7 32-bit....not 64. So, that a VERY smart human here offered there is maybe a bug in the W7 64 bit not plug and player drivers for beeping.....I took seriously, and still am, tho Larry Osterman of MS, in his blog said that was fixed. But, it now seems, the beeplesness simply owes to a general TREND, and reflects no PATHOLOGY!!

( I like to have no money via eBay spare parts around...just in case.)

NOW.....this former mystery.....I think is that no LONGER!!!!

 

[Sheep221]

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Edit: I mean it, I think your offering is THE OFFERING!!!!!! OMG!!!! I feel so much better!

I just got out my spare board for my GX620....still working perfectly, tho in a closet now, it beeped normally. I once replaced the board, then got another spare cause I was paranoid....I get board on ebay, never had a problem, and no money.

I recall, when I replaced the board (I had used my powerful Miele vac on the original one, cause I din know better), I only put in a new CMOS batt, and naturally seated the chip and then went from there. No way did I pull any little internal speaker with black and red wires from the original board and transfer it to the new board!

Just made a bad pic of my other replacement board for that system, and I see the smaller than in the 980 little black round buzzer. (Don wanna get the actual machine out of the closet, and no need to cause I have this other board.)

THIS CONFIRMS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING!!!!
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Edit in response to your addenda: re my "thought processes" ....just when I was happily feeling big respect for you, forget gratitude, you messed up and lost points. Respect....is earned. Playing to the peanut gallery is wut it is: feeble. Never earns respect among those not in that miniscule gallery.

I get paid decent money for my "thought processes"......not to mention they also earned me an Ivy League scholarship. Ponder, babe!!!

We are all here to learn.:sneaky: and not only about tech issues per se....given we are humans.

Hold on, I am going to put up the bad pic of the GX620 board.....my now backup Opti which beeps NORMALLY.

Oh the edits

As I said before, there is nothing wrong with your new system not beeping, it's not an error of any kind, it is not just doing it because the beep tone is not programmed in this particular computer.

I think the original reason beeping tones were used was because of CRT screens which required a lot of time to start and display the image and were also less reliable than modern LCDs, so the computers were equipped with the tone signal to let the user know the computer is booting even when no visible image was present on the screen. As it seems than CRT production ceased few years ago, manufacturers stopped to include beeping tone during post, yet if you have RAM or Graphics card error, the computer will still beep the sound when this occurs.

On to you directly now, I don't think I ever came in conflict with you, there were only 2 or 3 threads where I corrected you on the topic because you were wrong about it, or you could do better, I don't think that I ever messed up your posts or shown any kind of disrespect. Objectively, if someone does something wrong or can do it better and I know more I automatically correct the particular person to do it better way, if they will actually do it, it's up to them, yet there is nothing wrong with this my attitude. Actually a lot of people appreciate it.

Below, system board of my now backup GX620, which, like the GX260 before it, gave normal system beeps despite, I now see, it too only haS the little cylindrical black buzzer (circled in red) and NO OTHER internal speaker.

Tho, that system is running W7 32-bit....not 64. So, that a VERY smart human here offered there is maybe a bug in the W7 64 bit not plug and player drivers for beeping.....I took seriously, and still am, tho Larry Osterman of MS, in his blog said that was fixed. But, it now seems, the beeplesness simply owes to a general TREND, and reflects no PATHOLOGY!!

( I like to have no money via eBay spare parts around...just in case.)

NOW.....this former mystery.....I think is that no LONGER!!!!

The windows has no function to change the beeping sound, as the POST and beeping occurs much earlier than windows is loaded.